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Why would anyone become Catholic?
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| October 2, 2014
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Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
Why would intelligent, successful people give up their careers, alienate their friends, and cause havoc in their families...to become Catholic? Indeed, why would anyone become Catholic?
As an evangelist and author who recently threw my own life into some turmoil by deciding to enter the Catholic Church, I've faced this question a lot lately. That is one reason I decided to make this documentary; it's part of my attempt to try to explain to those closest to me why I would do such a crazy thing.
Convinced isn't just about me, though. The film is built around interviews with some of the most articulate and compelling Catholic converts in our culture today, including Scott Hahn, Francis Beckwith, Taylor Marshall, Holly Ordway, Abby Johnson, Jeff Cavins, Devin Rose, Matthew Leonard, Mark Regnerus, Jason Stellman, John Bergsma, Christian Smith, Kevin Vost, David Currie, Richard Cole, and Kenneth Howell. It also contains special appearances by experts in the field of conversion such as Patrick Madrid and Donald Asci.
Ultimately, this is a story about finding truth, beauty, and fulfillment in an unexpected place, and then sacrificing to grab on to it. I think it will entertain and inspire you, and perhaps even give you a fresh perspective on an old faith.
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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; willconvertforfood
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To: RegulatorCountry
The vast majority of your fellow Roman Catholics do not agree with you, they are in agreement with the hierarchy. Voting patterns in the US bear this out. Indeed, and the reactionary charges of bias and trying to spin numbers.
• Comparing Catholics and other Americans, 44% of Catholics claimed to be "absolutely committed" to the Christian faith versus 54% of the entire adult population, and donated about 17% less money to churches; was 38% less likely than the average American to read the Bible; 67% less likely to attend a Sunday school class; 20% less likely to share their faith in Christ with someone who had different beliefs; 24% less likely to say their religious faith has greatly transformed their life; and were 36% less likely to have an "active faith," (defined as reading the Bible, praying and attending a church service during the prior week.) Yet Catholics were 16% more likely than the norm to attend a church service and 8% more likely to have prayed to God during the prior week. Catholics Have Become Mainstream America, Barna research, July 9, 2007 https://www.barna.org/barna-update/faith-spirituality/100-catholics-have-become-mainstream-america#.VDZOGDRxnGg
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40% Roman Catholics vs. 41% Non-R.C. see abortion as "morally acceptable"; Sex between unmarried couples: 67% vs. 57%; Baby out of wedlock: 61% vs. 52%; Homosexual relations: 54% vs. 45%; Gambling: 72% vs. 59% http://www.gallup.com/poll/117154/Catholics-Similar-Mainstream-Abortion-Stem-Cells.aspx
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Committed Roman Catholics (church attendance weekly or almost) versus Non-R.C. faithful church goers (see the below as as morally acceptable): Abortion: 24% R.C. vs. 19% Non-R.C.; Sex between unmarried couples: 53% vs. 30%; Baby out of wedlock: 48% vs. 29%; Homosexual relations: 44% vs. 21%; Gambling: 67% vs. 40%; Divorce: 63 vs. 46% ^
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Comparing 16 moral behaviors, Catholics were less likely to say mean things about people behind their back, and tending to engage in recycling more. However, they were also twice as likely to view pornographic content on the Internet, and were more prone to use profanity, to gamble, and to buy lottery tickets. ^
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In a survey asking whether one approves or rejects or overall sees little consequence (skeptical) to society regarding seven trends on the family (More: unmarried couples raising children; gay and lesbian couples raising children; single women having children without a male partner to help raise them; people living together without getting married; mothers of young children working outside the home; people of different races marrying each other; and more women not ever having children), 42% of all Protestants were Rejecters of the modern trend, 35% were Skeptics, and 23% were Approvers. Among Catholics, 27% were Rejecters, 34% were Approvers, and 39% were Skeptics. (Among non religious, 10% were Rejecters, 48% were Approvers, and 42% were Skeptics.) Pew forum, The Public Renders a Split Verdict On Changes in Family Structure, February 16, 2011 http://pewsocialtrends.org/2011/02/16/the-public-renders-a-split-verdict-on-changes-in-family-structure/#prc_jump
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50 percent of Protestants affirmed gambling was a sin, versus 15 percent of Catholics; that getting drunk was a sin: 63 percent of Protestants, 28 percent of Catholics; gossip: 70 percent to 45 percent: homosexual activity or sex: 72 percent to 42 percent. Ellison Research, March 11, 2008 http://ellisonresearch.com/releases/20080311.htm http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080312/study-behaviors-americans-consider-sinful.htm
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posted on
10/08/2014 11:13:54 PM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: Prince of Space
So whyd He lead you out (of the Church started by Jesus Christ himself 2000 years ago) and not the rest of us Catholics? Does He love you more or something? Negative in both cases. Rome is definitively not the Church started by Jesus Christ himself 2000 years ago, but a severely manifest deformation of it.
Yet the one true church, the body of Christ, seeing as it alone is made up of only believer, continues, even though the visible expressions of it were never pure for long.
And the Lord gave me grace and truth and leading, while those who remain are either ignorant or deceived.
Perhaps you want to go thru the list and debate the items that are not seen in Scripture, or are contrary to them.
But I think the first question I would ask you is, what is the basis for your determination and assurance of truth?
For it seems that the RC argument is that an assuredly (if conditionally) infallible magisterium is essential for determination and assurance of Truth (including writings and men being of God) and to fulfill promises of Divine presence, providence of Truth, and preservation of faith, and authority. (Jn. 14:16,26; 15:26; 16:13; Mt. 16:18; Lk. 10:16)
And that being the historical instruments and stewards of Divine revelation (oral and written) means that such is that assuredly infallible magisterium. Thus those who knowingly dissent from the latter are in rebellion to God. Does this represent what you hold to or in what way does it differ?
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posted on
10/08/2014 11:21:47 PM PDT
by
daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: CynicalBear
A fighting chance? Put your faith and trust in Jesus alone and not some ritual or man made organization and heaven is quarenteed (sic). You are wrong.
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posted on
10/09/2014 2:33:01 AM PDT
by
verga
(Conservative, leaning libertarian)
To: daniel1212
And thus in reality you joined another church that is a result of her own progressive innovations, some of which the Episcopal Church shares, all of which stands in contrast to the NT church as revealed in ScriptureYou are wrong.
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posted on
10/09/2014 2:36:06 AM PDT
by
verga
(Conservative, leaning libertarian)
To: Salvation
Powerful, sadly most of our separated brethren will not go to see it.
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posted on
10/09/2014 2:48:33 AM PDT
by
verga
(You anger Catholics by telling them a lie, you anger protestants by telling them the truth.)
To: verga
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posted on
10/09/2014 2:51:56 AM PDT
by
mitch5501
("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
To: NKP_Vet
Why would anyone become Catholic?This one's EASY!
"Because they believe what the church, based in Rome, teaches."
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:05:21 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: NKP_Vet
Ultimately, this is a story about finding truth, beauty, and fulfillment in an unexpected place, and then sacrificing to grab on to it.
Micah 6:8
He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?
Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
1 John 3:21-23
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him.
And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.
James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
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10/09/2014 4:06:45 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Vigilanteman
Maybe because it makes a hell of a lot more sense than the extreme fundy freakshow who constantly and mindlessly denounces anything which doesn't fit their narrow definition of Christianity?
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:08:23 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: ansel12
Do you think that the Catholic denominations leadership is more accepting of Mormonism? We all know (at least SHOULD know) what Mormonism thinks of Catholicism!
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:12:29 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Catholicism is not a denomination, it is Christianity itself....
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:22:41 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: cloudmountain
Sigh, we cant even do backgrounds anymore, let alone scrolls.
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:31:55 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: yetidog
I will join (or not join) whatever church I want and I would suggest you do the same.
Romans 15:4
For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
Romans 16:17
I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
1 Corinthians 4:17
For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
1 Corinthians 11:2
2. I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings, just as I passed them on to you.
Ephesians 4:14-15
14. Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
15. Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.
2 Thessalonians 2:15
So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
2 Thessalonians 3:6
In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching you received from us.
1 Timothy 1:3-4
3. As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
4. nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
1 Timothy 1:7
They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
1 Timothy 2:7
And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
1 Timothy 4:1-2
1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
2. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
1 Timothy 4:6
If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.
1 Timothy 4:11
Command and teach these things.
1 Timothy 6:3-5
3. If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4. he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5. and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
2 Timothy 1:13
What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
2 Timothy 2:15-17
15. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
16. Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
17. Their teaching will spread like gangrene.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
17. so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
3. For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
4. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
Titus 1:11
They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
Titus 2:1
You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
Titus 2:15
These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.
Hebrews 13:9
Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.
2 Peter 2:1-3
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
2 John 1:10
If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:33:56 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: NKP_Vet
Just another Catholic bashing bigot that lives to put down the Church, another all-knowing protestant authority on the Catholic Church. I'm glad our FR Catholics are kind and loving to their separated brethren.
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:50:39 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: verga
You are wrong. Mere WORDS?
You need FRACTALS!!!
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:53:20 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
The key to that scripture is ‘comes to your house’, and that relates to those who do not believe that JESUS IS SON OF GOD, but only a prophet. I would compare that to the Jehovah Witnesses and those with a false message.
Those who believe that Jesus is son of God and the Savior is in the CHURCH...period. There is only one church, and Jesus is the head of that church no matter where the person worships or has membership.
Denominations are only man’s doctrine. Get off the soapbox and quit condemning other Christians because you are Catholic and they are Protestant.
ALL BELIEVERS WHO ACCEPTED JESUS ARE CHRISTIANS, PERIOD.
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:53:55 AM PDT
by
Kackikat
(Two wrongs do NOT make a right.... unless you are a Democrat!)
To: Elsie
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:54:13 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Kackikat
I would compare that to the Jehovah Witnesses and those with a false message.
If you have cable TV, there wont be much on to watch.
If there isnt much on to watch, you will answer your door whenever someone rings.
If you open your door, you will see mormons.
If you talk to mormons, they will trick you into praying about whether something is true.
If you rely on your feelings, you may become a mormon.
If you become a mormon, you will have to wear magic underwear!
If you wear magic underwear, people will immediately label you as a cultist.
DONT be a cultist!
Get DirectTV.
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posted on
10/09/2014 4:56:50 AM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Elsie
Very odd reply.
The basis of Christianity is Jesus was the Passover Lamb for sins, once and for all. Accepting Jesus as the son of God and believing in him is the definition of a Christian.
Baptism required.
A Simple gospel, and everything else is doctrine.
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posted on
10/09/2014 5:02:02 AM PDT
by
Kackikat
(Two wrongs do NOT make a right.... unless you are a Democrat!)
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