Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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sure I do,but I believe in doing it in the way He taught and through the church which He founded...the Catholic church.
probably not, but then he didn't wear a three piece suit and silk tie either....what's that got to do with anything????
I interpret this to mean you have rejected the Greek Textus Receptus of the Protestants and Fundamentalists and think the 4th Edition is the best latest and greatest available. It seems to me that concedes to larger point on inspiration of the scriptures to Catholic Church, and completely abandons the Fundamentalists, this one verse notwithstanding. If you reject the Latin Vulgate, hold that better manuscripts have been found recently, it suggests you have neither had the complete Bible until now, and since other manuscripts may be found in the future, you may not have it now. Forth edition you say ? How many editions will it take to settle the original manuscript issue ? I think there is one frequent poster who believes all the original manuscripts were written in Hebrew. With that position, one could do what you are essentially doing, but by projecting what thee Hebrew was like that the Greek was based on and forming doctrine based on those hypotheses, a risky proposition.
First: the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts are no longer in existence. So no one can lay claim to having the "original" texts....or as you want to put it the "complete" Bible. Unless you're referencing the apocrypha which Jerome noted as being non-canonical....at least until Trent. Any who do are deluding themselves.
What we do have is ongoing scholarly research to provide us with the best translation possible from the best texts possible. I'm all for that. The good news is that the Bible as we have it today is considered to be a very accurate rendition of the original texts.
There are issues in the translation of the Vulgate. One of the most glaring occurs in Luke 1:28 regarding the greeting to Mary.
Instead of translating κεχαριτωμένη as "you favored with grace", as in the Greek, the Vulgate translates this as "full of grace". There is a big difference between the two renderings in terms of theological meaning.
The Bibles with the best word for word translation are in order of word for word down to thought for thought:
Interlinear
NASB
AMP
ESV
RSV
KJV
NKJV
HCSB
NRSV
NAB
NJB
NIV
TNIV
NCV/ICB
NLT
NIRV
GNT
CEV
LIVING
MESSAGE
What is the inspired nature of scripture???
Are we to presume this about every body we can't find???
That's a lot of assumption (no pun there) built into this.
Don't call me Shirley! (kidding!)
The church IS subordinate to the State in certain areas, yes. Paul taught:
Peter also taught:
Even Jesus said to render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's and He paid his taxes. But, as always, we are to obey God rather than man in those cases where man's commands disobey the commands of God.
We are speaking of things actually passed down to your religion from the apostles...Not those things which your religion made up and call Tradition...We know all about your unbiblical traditions...You got anything that came from the apostles which isn't contained within the scriptures???
For starters you've assigned a false title to Mary. No where does the Bible refer to her in this manner.
Next, we have no record in the NT of anyone ever praying to those who have gone to be with the Lord.
This is nothing more than the false teaching of mary fostered by the roman catholic cult.
LOL! I suppose anything can become unbiblical once the non-inspired deem it necessary to remove sections of the Word in order for it to comport with their novel inventions of doctrine.
Really???
Eph_3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Where were you guys when the Holy Spirit passed out understanding???
Why does the RCC, including the Pontiffs in my lifetime, not support Jews and minister directly to Jews instead of to the enemies of Judah and Israel?
Define support.
Of course all these points are correct. To better phrase my question: CER-tainly (!) you don’t think the Church is subordinate to the State in matters of faith and morals?
No that is not what is being said. As Catholics, we believe in the ministerial priesthood. As such it is necessary to identify the priesthood from the laity particularly in liturgical matters. Of course, if one doesn't believe in the ministerial priesthood or the liturgy then naturally they don't have a vestment problem but develop issues with those who do. Conflating their understanding of necessity and importance with what is proper.
If protestants would embrace 1 Timothy 4:4 and cease their iconoclastic ways they might eventually understand.
And lest their be any confusion a priest may conduct the duties of his office, if necessary, even when he's not in vestments. The Eucharist is still confected, confessions can be heard and absolution given etc.
Your post #1153 ca just as easily be applied to the rcc!
Never! I would rather die than renounce Christ's Church. I am fully in Christ in His Church. The One True Faith has the fullness of Truth and all I need. Just the thought of giving it up for some man-made tradition/interpretation of yours or some other protestant makes me sick to my stomach.
“Other Tradition(s) regarding teachings necessary for salvation are the Seven Sacraments, most of which the Catholic Church posits as normative for salvation.”
Unless you demonstrate that something WAS a tradition at the time of the Apostles, it was not Apostolic Tradition. Until you demonstrate that, you have not answered the question.
Things like the Septuagint.
Never! I would rather die than renounce Christ’s Church. I am fully in Christ in His Church.
Do you place the Catholic Church above Jesus? <-— Note - Question Mark!
What if Jesus appeared to you and said to repent from those practices and follow only Him; how would you respond?
probably not, but then he didn't wear a three piece suit and silk tie either....what's that got to do with anything????
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Some Catholics claim they faithfully follow the teachings of Peter and keep Peter's traditions.
I'm just proving such claims false.
Peter was married. Should Priests, Bishops and Popes marry? The Epistles describe how the wives of Bishops should behave.
Why don't your Priests and Bishops marry?
sure I do,but I believe in doing it in the way He taught and through the church which He founded...the Catholic church.
Are you saying Jesus Christ ALONE is sufficient? How about Mary. Is there any penalties or dangers if you ignore Mary?
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