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Why would anyone become Catholic?
https://www.indiegogo.com ^ | October 2, 2014 | Indiegogo

Posted on 10/08/2014 11:39:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Why would intelligent, successful people give up their careers, alienate their friends, and cause havoc in their families...to become Catholic? Indeed, why would anyone become Catholic?

As an evangelist and author who recently threw my own life into some turmoil by deciding to enter the Catholic Church, I've faced this question a lot lately. That is one reason I decided to make this documentary; it's part of my attempt to try to explain to those closest to me why I would do such a crazy thing.

Convinced isn't just about me, though. The film is built around interviews with some of the most articulate and compelling Catholic converts in our culture today, including Scott Hahn, Francis Beckwith, Taylor Marshall, Holly Ordway, Abby Johnson, Jeff Cavins, Devin Rose, Matthew Leonard, Mark Regnerus, Jason Stellman, John Bergsma, Christian Smith, Kevin Vost, David Currie, Richard Cole, and Kenneth Howell. It also contains special appearances by experts in the field of conversion such as Patrick Madrid and Donald Asci.

Ultimately, this is a story about finding truth, beauty, and fulfillment in an unexpected place, and then sacrificing to grab on to it. I think it will entertain and inspire you, and perhaps even give you a fresh perspective on an old faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at indiegogo.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Charismatic Christian; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; willconvertforfood
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Do you believe you can only enter Heaven through Jesus, that Jesus alone is sufficient for Salvation, terycarl?

sure I do,but I believe in doing it in the way He taught and through the church which He founded...the Catholic church.

1,141 posted on 10/12/2014 2:53:16 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
I’m still waiting to hear whether Peter, assumed by Catholics to be “the first pope,” wore gaudy, flashy robes, a tall hat and carried a blinged out shepherd’s staff.

probably not, but then he didn't wear a three piece suit and silk tie either....what's that got to do with anything????

1,142 posted on 10/12/2014 2:55:59 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: af_vet_1981
>I do agree that the translation one uses influences their take on the Scripture. For this reason I rely upon the 4th Edition United Bible Societies for the Greek and NASB for English. The USB is recognized for its scholarly accuracy while the NASB is the closet word for word translation currently available.<

I interpret this to mean you have rejected the Greek Textus Receptus of the Protestants and Fundamentalists and think the 4th Edition is the best latest and greatest available. It seems to me that concedes to larger point on inspiration of the scriptures to Catholic Church, and completely abandons the Fundamentalists, this one verse notwithstanding. If you reject the Latin Vulgate, hold that better manuscripts have been found recently, it suggests you have neither had the complete Bible until now, and since other manuscripts may be found in the future, you may not have it now. Forth edition you say ? How many editions will it take to settle the original manuscript issue ? I think there is one frequent poster who believes all the original manuscripts were written in Hebrew. With that position, one could do what you are essentially doing, but by projecting what thee Hebrew was like that the Greek was based on and forming doctrine based on those hypotheses, a risky proposition.

First: the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts are no longer in existence. So no one can lay claim to having the "original" texts....or as you want to put it the "complete" Bible. Unless you're referencing the apocrypha which Jerome noted as being non-canonical....at least until Trent. Any who do are deluding themselves.

What we do have is ongoing scholarly research to provide us with the best translation possible from the best texts possible. I'm all for that. The good news is that the Bible as we have it today is considered to be a very accurate rendition of the original texts.

There are issues in the translation of the Vulgate. One of the most glaring occurs in Luke 1:28 regarding the greeting to Mary.

Instead of translating κεχαριτωμένη as "you favored with grace", as in the Greek, the Vulgate translates this as "full of grace". There is a big difference between the two renderings in terms of theological meaning.

The Bibles with the best word for word translation are in order of word for word down to thought for thought:

Interlinear

NASB

AMP

ESV

RSV

KJV

NKJV

HCSB

NRSV

NAB

NJB

NIV

TNIV

NCV/ICB

NLT

NIRV

GNT

CEV

LIVING

MESSAGE

1,143 posted on 10/12/2014 2:57:57 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
the inspired nature of Scripture

What is the inspired nature of scripture???

1,144 posted on 10/12/2014 2:58:38 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
In fact, the fact that there are no relics of Mary is evidence of her bodily assumption into heaven.

Are we to presume this about every body we can't find???

That's a lot of assumption (no pun there) built into this.

1,145 posted on 10/12/2014 3:03:23 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Surely you don’t think the Church is subordinate to the State?

Don't call me Shirley! (kidding!)

The church IS subordinate to the State in certain areas, yes. Paul taught:

    Remind them to be subject to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good deed, to malign no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing every consideration for all men. (Titus 3:1,2)

    Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. (Romans 13:1)

    Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience. (Romans 13:5)

Peter also taught:

    Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right. (I Peter 2:13,14)

    Act as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but use it as bondslaves of God. Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king. Servants, be submissive to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and gentle, but also to those who are unreasonable. (I Peter 2:16-18)

Even Jesus said to render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's and He paid his taxes. But, as always, we are to obey God rather than man in those cases where man's commands disobey the commands of God.

1,146 posted on 10/12/2014 3:07:35 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
I'm bookmarking this page in case you forget that a Catholic provided you with several examples of Sacred Tradition, and you repeat this again:

We are speaking of things actually passed down to your religion from the apostles...Not those things which your religion made up and call Tradition...We know all about your unbiblical traditions...You got anything that came from the apostles which isn't contained within the scriptures???

1,147 posted on 10/12/2014 3:14:22 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Heart-Rest
from you post #1138 God also plainly tells us in His Bible that "the prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects", and no mere human being is more righteous than the Blessed Mother Mary, so it is a great idea to ask Mary to pray for you, just like it is a good idea to ask other FReepers to pray for you when you feel in need of special prayers, even though God already knows everything they are going to say.

For starters you've assigned a false title to Mary. No where does the Bible refer to her in this manner.

Next, we have no record in the NT of anyone ever praying to those who have gone to be with the Lord.

This is nothing more than the false teaching of mary fostered by the roman catholic cult.

1,148 posted on 10/12/2014 3:21:27 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Iscool
We are speaking of things actually passed down to your religion from the apostles...Not those things which your religion made up and call Tradition...We know all about your unbiblical traditions...You got anything that came from the apostles which isn't contained within the scriptures???

LOL! I suppose anything can become unbiblical once the non-inspired deem it necessary to remove sections of the Word in order for it to comport with their novel inventions of doctrine.

1,149 posted on 10/12/2014 3:21:55 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Heart-Rest
(God really knew what He was doing when He began to build His Church, and had those Church leaders He chose begin to develop the New Testament, and to begin to authoritatively interpret His written Word.)

Really???

Eph_3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

Where were you guys when the Holy Spirit passed out understanding???

1,150 posted on 10/12/2014 3:21:56 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Resettozero

Why does the RCC, including the Pontiffs in my lifetime, not support Jews and minister directly to Jews instead of to the enemies of Judah and Israel?

Define support.

1,151 posted on 10/12/2014 3:24:02 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: boatbums

Of course all these points are correct. To better phrase my question: CER-tainly (!) you don’t think the Church is subordinate to the State in matters of faith and morals?


1,152 posted on 10/12/2014 3:31:40 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Are you saying the vestments and symbols of office aren’t very important? Would there be any problem if a group of Christians decided to forego the vestments?

No that is not what is being said. As Catholics, we believe in the ministerial priesthood. As such it is necessary to identify the priesthood from the laity particularly in liturgical matters. Of course, if one doesn't believe in the ministerial priesthood or the liturgy then naturally they don't have a vestment problem but develop issues with those who do. Conflating their understanding of necessity and importance with what is proper.

If protestants would embrace 1 Timothy 4:4 and cease their iconoclastic ways they might eventually understand.

And lest their be any confusion a priest may conduct the duties of his office, if necessary, even when he's not in vestments. The Eucharist is still confected, confessions can be heard and absolution given etc.

1,153 posted on 10/12/2014 3:35:53 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011

Your post #1153 ca just as easily be applied to the rcc!


1,154 posted on 10/12/2014 3:42:36 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Jesus is all you need! Abandon your detestable practices!

Never! I would rather die than renounce Christ's Church. I am fully in Christ in His Church. The One True Faith has the fullness of Truth and all I need. Just the thought of giving it up for some man-made tradition/interpretation of yours or some other protestant makes me sick to my stomach.

1,155 posted on 10/12/2014 3:43:49 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“Other Tradition(s) regarding teachings necessary for salvation are the Seven Sacraments, most of which the Catholic Church posits as normative for salvation.”

Unless you demonstrate that something WAS a tradition at the time of the Apostles, it was not Apostolic Tradition. Until you demonstrate that, you have not answered the question.


1,156 posted on 10/12/2014 3:46:51 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Iscool
We are speaking of things actually passed down to your religion from the apostles...

Things like the Septuagint.

1,157 posted on 10/12/2014 3:56:04 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011; metmom; caww; CynicalBear

Never! I would rather die than renounce Christ’s Church. I am fully in Christ in His Church.


Do you place the Catholic Church above Jesus? <-— Note - Question Mark!

What if Jesus appeared to you and said to repent from those practices and follow only Him; how would you respond?


1,158 posted on 10/12/2014 4:03:15 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: terycarl
I’m still waiting to hear whether Peter, assumed by Catholics to be “the first pope,” wore gaudy, flashy robes, a tall hat and carried a blinged out shepherd’s staff.

probably not, but then he didn't wear a three piece suit and silk tie either....what's that got to do with anything????

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Some Catholics claim they faithfully follow the teachings of Peter and keep Peter's traditions.

I'm just proving such claims false.

Peter was married. Should Priests, Bishops and Popes marry? The Epistles describe how the wives of Bishops should behave.

Why don't your Priests and Bishops marry?

1,159 posted on 10/12/2014 4:06:50 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: terycarl; metmom; caww; CynicalBear

sure I do,but I believe in doing it in the way He taught and through the church which He founded...the Catholic church.


Are you saying Jesus Christ ALONE is sufficient? How about Mary. Is there any penalties or dangers if you ignore Mary?


1,160 posted on 10/12/2014 4:07:54 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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