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Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”
Crisis Magazine ^ | October 3, 2014 | RICHARD BECKER

Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer

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To: vladimir998; CynicalBear

If you can’t show the apostles taught Matthew’s gospel is inspired and thus all Christian groups are accursed for believing it according to your claim just say so. Don’t keep dancing around.


Do you deny the Gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke and John?


401 posted on 10/05/2014 3:08:20 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Elsie

That was a good vintage; it coagulated smoothly so there aren’t any lumps.


402 posted on 10/05/2014 3:09:48 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: verga; boatbums; metmom
>>CB was correct, in this case, about actions,<<

So you agree that Catholics by their actions do indeed show they worship Mary! Thank you for that concession.

403 posted on 10/05/2014 3:10:41 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

You were raised Catholic?


404 posted on 10/05/2014 3:11:27 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: CynicalBear

405 posted on 10/05/2014 3:13:09 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: metmom; boatbums; verga; CynicalBear; narses; caww; Elsie

The whole discussion about cutting yourself for the dead began because someone with precious little knowledge of Scripture claimed that the Bible did not prohibit cutting oneself for the dead.


To be honest, I sort of like the idea of having a Viking funeral. But try finding a Baptist Church willing to hold a service where you’re body is on a burning boat with your enemies severed heads resting at your feet.

Do any of you know of any non-moslem religions that are open to severed body parts?


406 posted on 10/05/2014 3:13:23 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: CynicalBear
So you agree that Catholics by their actions do indeed show they worship Mary!

I'm still waiting for someone to find something about "worshipping Mary" in the Catechism.

Here's a link.

407 posted on 10/05/2014 3:15:16 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: CynicalBear

“Matthew quotes from the Old Testament more than any of the other three gospel writers. He records Jesus genealogy accurately. He records Jesus words substantiated in the other gospels. Matthew was an apostle and as such was given this promise that only the twel e were given.”

Your answer makes no sense in light of what you were asked:

“Matthew quotes from the Old Testament more than any of the other three gospel writers.”

So that makes it inspired according to the Apostles? Post a verse saying that.

“He records Jesus genealogy accurately.”

Who decided that? In what verse do the Apostles say that Matthew got it right? Who decided that Luke’s genealogy of Jesus reconciles with Matthew’s?

“He records Jesus words substantiated in the other gospels.”

And in what verse do you find the Apostles saying all four gospels are inspired?

“Matthew was an apostle and as such was given this promise that only the twel e were given.”

Show the verse that says that THAT Matthew was one in the same as the gospel writer. There is no such verse of course.

“I’ll take Jesus word that the Holy Spirit brought to his remembrance what He wrote.”

Show a single verse - just one - that says Matthew was inspired, or that gospel writer Matthew was an Apostle, or that the other Apostles approved of what Matthew wrote and considered in inspired. Can you? No, such verses exist.


408 posted on 10/05/2014 3:22:08 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
So...why won’t the Catholics see the light and realize God won’t make them spend thousands of years in torture to “purge” them of their sins?

Because we can red the Bible. You might consider trying that some time.

409 posted on 10/05/2014 3:23:14 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: narses
You were raised Catholic?

Yes, and I attended catechism until the age of 16 or 17 (stopped in 11th grade). I volunteered as a lectern in the Catholic Chapel services (USAF) until the age of about 20.

At 20 I “fell away” and turned “agnostic” for about a decade and associated with (not worshiped with) Baptists, Mormons, Wiccans, Buddhists and Neo-Pagans. Finally, I read the Bible at age 30.

Reading the Bible opened my eyes to the Catholic Church. You really ought to sit and read the Bible all the way through, absent from anything to do with rituals, Mary and traditions.

You might be surprised.

410 posted on 10/05/2014 3:23:32 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: narses
What authority do you presume to make that judgment?
411 posted on 10/05/2014 3:24:13 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
>>Do any of you know of any non-moslem religions that are open to severed body parts?<<

Snicker

412 posted on 10/05/2014 3:24:47 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: verga

Because we can red the Bible. You might consider trying that some time.


I like the “red” text. In my Bible the “red” text is used to illuminate Jesus’ words.

What color do they use for Mary’s words in your Bible? Since she’s your “coredemtrix” and “Queen of Heaven” you must do something special. What is it?


413 posted on 10/05/2014 3:26:45 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: CynicalBear; metmom; boatbums
So you agree that Catholics by their actions do indeed show they worship Mary! Thank you for that concession. P>I realize that prots have low IQ's and difficulty with following threads. I was actually pointing out that metmom's and boatbums's inability to give even the semblance of a legitimate answer (actions/ inactions) spoke volumes about prots.

Please keep talking. It is not informative, but it is entertaining.

414 posted on 10/05/2014 3:27:11 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: vladimir998

Now show me where what Matthew teaches is not what the others teach.


415 posted on 10/05/2014 3:27:20 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Snicker


Yeah, they could put a few of those in my coat pocket along with a bottle of whiskey.


416 posted on 10/05/2014 3:27:42 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Were you ever taught that Mary was God or even god? Were you ever taught that she was divine? Were you ever taught that she was due worship or taught to worship her?

Simple yes or no answers, but I am betting that you will either dodge the question or try and hedge again.


417 posted on 10/05/2014 3:29:35 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: verga; CynicalBear; metmom; boatbums; Religion Moderator
"I realize that prots have low IQ’s and difficulty with following threads."

Is there a moratorium on “making it personal?”

418 posted on 10/05/2014 3:29:37 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; CynicalBear
Here's a link.

Wasn't CB offered this option before? I guess his inactions speak louder than words.

419 posted on 10/05/2014 3:30:09 PM PDT by verga (Conservative, leaning libertarian)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

The exact same as anyone else. I smell wrong all over that post. And I am right!


420 posted on 10/05/2014 3:30:57 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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