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Protecting God’s Word From “Bible Christians”
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| October 3, 2014
| RICHARD BECKER
Posted on 10/03/2014 2:33:43 PM PDT by NYer
“Stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught,
either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
~ St. Paul to the Thessalonians
A former student of mine is thinking of becoming a Catholic, and she had a question for me. I dont understand the deuterocanonical books, she ventured. If the Catholic faith is supposed to be a fulfillment of the Jewish faith, why do Catholics accept those books and the Jews dont? Shed done her homework, and was troubled that the seven books and other writings of the deuterocanon had been preserved only in Greek instead of Hebrew like the rest of the Jewish scriptureswhich is part of the reason why they were classified, even by Catholics, as a second (deutero) canon.
My student went on. Im just struggling because there are a lot of references to those books in Church doctrine, but they arent considered inspired Scripture. Why did Luther feel those books needed to be taken out? she asked. And why are Protestants so against them?
The short answer sounds petty and mean, but its true nonetheless: Luther jettisoned those extra Old Testament booksTobit, Sirach, 1 and 2 Maccabees, and the likebecause they were inconvenient. The Apocrypha (or, false writings), as they came to be known, supported pesky Catholic doctrines that Luther and other reformers wanted to suppresspraying for the dead, for instance, and the intercession of the saints. Heres John Calvin on the subject:
Add to this, that they provide themselves with new supports when they give full authority to the Apocryphal books. Out of the second of the Maccabees they will prove Purgatory and the worship of saints; out of Tobit satisfactions, exorcisms, and what not. From Ecclesiasticus they will borrow not a little. For from whence could they better draw their dregs?
However, the deuterocanonical literature was (and is) prominent in the liturgy and very familiar to that first generation of Protestant converts, so Luther and company couldnt very well ignore it altogether. Consequently, those seven apocryphal books, along with the Greek portions of Esther and Daniel, were relegated to an appendix in early Protestant translations of the Bible.
Eventually, in the nineteenth century sometime, many Protestant Bible publishers starting dropping the appendix altogether, and the modern translations used by most evangelicals today dont even reference the Apocrypha at all. Thus, the myth is perpetuated that nefarious popes and bishops have gotten away with brazenly foisting a bunch of bogus scripture on the ignorant Catholic masses.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
To begin with, it was Luther and Calvin and the other reformers who did all the foisting. The Old Testament that Christians had been using for 1,500 years had always included the so-called Apocrypha, and there was never a question as to its canonicity. Thus, by selectively editing and streamlining their own versions of the Bible according to their sectarian biases (including, in Luthers case, both Testaments, Old and New), the reformers engaged in a theological con game. To make matters worse, they covered their tracks by pointing fingers at the Catholic Church for adding phony texts to the closed canon of Hebrew Sacred Writ.
In this sense, the reformers were anticipating what I call the Twain-Jefferson approach to canonical revisionism. It involves two simple steps.
- Step one: Identify the parts of Scripture that you find especially onerous or troublesome. Generally, these will be straightforward biblical references that dont quite square with the doctrine one is championing or the practices one has already embraced. Mark Twain is the modern herald of this half of creative textual reconstruction: It aint those parts of the Bible that I cant understand that bother me, Twain wrote, it is the parts that I do understand.
- Step two: Yank the vexing parts out. Its what Thomas Jefferson literally did when he took his own Bible and cut out the passages he found offensivea kind of scripture by subtraction in the words of religion professor Stephen Prothero.
The reformers justified their Twain-Jefferson humbug by pointing to the canon of scriptures in use by European Jews during that time, and it did not include those extra Catholic bookscase closed! Still unconvinced? Todays defenders of the reformers biblical reshaping will then proceed to throw around historical precedent and references to the first-century Council of Jamnia, but its all really smoke and mirrors.
The fact is that the first-century Jewish canon was pretty mutable and there was no universal definitive list of sacred texts. On the other hand, it is indisputable that the version being used by Jesus and the Apostles during that time was the Septuagintthe Greek version of the Hebrew scriptures that included Luthers rejected apocryphal books. SCORE: Deuterocanon 1; Twain-Jefferson Revisionism 0.
But this is all beside the point. Its like an argument about creationism vs. evolution that gets funneled in the direction of whether dinosaurs couldve been on board Noahs Ark. Once youre arguing about that, youre no longer arguing about the bigger issue of the historicity of those early chapters in Genesis. The parallel red herring here is arguing over the content of the Christian Old Testament canon instead of considering the nature of authority itself and how its supposed to work in the Church, especially with regards to the Bible.
I mean, even if we can settle what the canon should include, we dont have the autographs (original documents) from any biblical books anyway. While we affirm the Churchs teaching that all Scripture is inspired and teaches solidly, faithfully and without error that truth which God wanted put into sacred writings (DV 11), there are no absolutes when it comes to the precise content of the Bible.
Can there be any doubt that this is by Gods design? Without the autographs, we are much less tempted to worship a static book instead of the One it reveals to us. Even so, its true that we are still encouraged to venerate the Scriptures, but we worship the incarnate Wordand we ought not confuse the two. John the Baptist said as much when he painstakingly distinguished between himself, the announcer, and the actual Christ he was announcing. The Catechism, quoting St. Bernard, offers a further helpful distinction:
The Christian faith is not a religion of the book. Christianity is the religion of the Word of God, a word which is not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living.
Anyway, with regards to authority and the canon of Scripture, Mark Shea couldnt have put it more succinctly than his recent response to a request for a summary of why the deuterocanon should be included in the Bible:
Because the Church in union with Peter, the pillar and ground of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15) granted authority by Christ to loose and bind (Matthew 16:19), says they should be.
Right. The Church says so, and thats good enough.
For its the Church who gives us the Scriptures. Its the Church who preserves the Scriptures and tells us to turn to them. Its the Church who bathes us in the Scriptures with the liturgy, day in and day out, constantly watering our souls with Gods Word. Isnt it a bit bizarre to be challenging the Church with regards to which Scriptures shes feeding us with? No, mother, the infant cries, not breast milk! I want Ovaltine! Better yet, how about some Sprite!
Think of it this way. My daughter Margaret and I share an intense devotion to Betty Smiths remarkable novel, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. Its a bittersweet family tale of impoverishment, tragedy, and perseverance, and we often remark how curious it is that Smiths epic story receives so little attention.
I was rooting around the sale shelf at the public library one day, and I happened upon a paperback with the name Betty Smith on the spine. I took a closer look: Joy in the Morning, a 1963 novel of romance and the struggles of newlyweds, and it was indeed by the same Smith of Tree fame. I snatched it up for Meg.
The other day, Meg thanked me for the book, and asked me to be on the lookout for others by Smith. It wasnt nearly as good as Tree, she said, and I dont expect any of her others to be as good. But I want to read everything she wrote because Tree was so wonderful.
See, she wants to get to know Betty Smith because of what she encountered in A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. And all we have are her books and other writings; Betty Smith herself is gone.
But Jesus isnt like that. We have the book, yes, but we have more. We still have the Word himself.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: apocrypha; bible; calvin; christians; herewegoagain; luther
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Some people don't even realize that they're name-calling.I know.
But I've yet to see where pointing that out to Catholics has made them realize they are the non-publican in the room.
381
posted on
10/05/2014 1:55:18 PM PDT
by
Elsie
( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: vladimir998
What is taught in Matthew that the apostles didn’t teach?
382
posted on
10/05/2014 1:57:48 PM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: CynicalBear
My soul magnifies the Lord,
And my spirit rejoices in God my Savior.
For He has regarded the low estate of His handmaiden,
For behold, henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
For He who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is His name. And His mercy is on those who fear Him from generation to generation.
He has shown strength with His arm:
He has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
He has put down the mighty from their thrones,
and exalted those of low degree.
He has filled the hungry with good things;
and the rich He has sent empty away.
He has helped His servant Israel, in remembrance of His mercy;
As He spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to His posterity forever.
Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen
Magníficat ánima mea Dóminum,
et exsultávit spíritus meus
in Deo salvatóre meo,
quia respéxit humilitátem
ancíllæ suæ.
Ecce enim ex hoc beátam
me dicent omnes generatiónes,
quia fecit mihi magna,
qui potens est,
et sanctum nomen eius,
et misericórdia eius in progénies
et progénies timéntibus eum.
Fecit poténtiam in bráchio suo,
dispérsit supérbos mente cordis sui;
depósuit poténtes de sede
et exaltávit húmiles.
Esuriéntes implévit bonis
et dívites dimísit inánes.
Suscépit Ísrael púerum suum,
recordátus misericórdiæ,
sicut locútus est ad patres nostros,
Ábraham et sémini eius in sæcula.
Glória Patri et Fílio
et Spirítui Sancto.
Sicut erat in princípio,
et nunc et semper,
et in sæcula sæculórum.
Amen.
383
posted on
10/05/2014 2:00:00 PM PDT
by
narses
( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
To: metmom
>>For Catholics tradition trumps Scripture.<<
But they can't even prove today's "traditions" are the same traditions the apostles were talking about.
384
posted on
10/05/2014 2:07:33 PM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: narses
That’s what Matthew teaches that the apostles didn’t teach??? Are you sure? You may want to ask the guy who wears the same type of hat the priests to the fish god dagon wore.
385
posted on
10/05/2014 2:11:05 PM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: CynicalBear
386
posted on
10/05/2014 2:20:18 PM PDT
by
narses
( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Rides_A_Red_Horse
Doesn’t the Roman Catholic church teach those who die in mortal sin cannot benefit from purgatory but go straight to hell?
387
posted on
10/05/2014 2:26:08 PM PDT
by
boatbums
(God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
To: narses
I know but we keep putting God’s word in front of Catholics anyway because their are those who read these threads that God might be trying to reach.
388
posted on
10/05/2014 2:28:25 PM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: NKP_Vet; metmom; caww; CynicalBear; Elsie
I said - “I wish you would hold at least half the reverence for Jesus that you have for the Catholic Church.”
You replied - “Without the Catholic Church, FOUNDED by Christ, you would have idea who Christ is. You will still be praying to the sun gods.”
In your response you placed the Catholic Church first. You ought to put Jesus first.
Where you keep what you treasure is where your heart lies. Where is your heart, NKP_Vet?
389
posted on
10/05/2014 2:40:26 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: Elsie
“Nothing in Scripture condemns the Protestants or the Protestant faith.”
False. Sola fide is the main doctrine of Protestantism. This is rejected in James 2:24.
“For a Catholic to say so is simply to make something up and claim it’s their football.”
No, it’s in James 2:24.
To: boatbums; CynicalBear
Thank you for settling the matter of prot integrity. CB was correct, in this case, about actions, or rather inactions speaking louder than words.
391
posted on
10/05/2014 2:47:43 PM PDT
by
verga
(Conservative, leaning libertarian)
To: CynicalBear
“What is taught in Matthew that the apostles didnt teach?”
Where did the Apostles teach that the Gospel of Matthew is inspired?
To: narses; boatbums; metmom; caww; CynicalBear
Were you ever taught that Mary was God or even god? Were you ever taught that she was divine? Were you ever taught that she was due worship or taught to worship her?
Let’s see...
“Co-redemtrix,” “Queen of Heaven,” “Mother of God,” “Mother of us all...”
I’ve seen long precessions of male and female children march to her statue and stand while the priest crowns the head of the statue with flowers.
I’ve heard prayers pleading for “her blessings.”
Yeah, that pretty much covers giving Mary a deity status near or equal to Jesus and receiving worship.
Which silly picture do I get this time? Can I please have my bear on a unicycle? I’ll settle for a bear on a scooter.
393
posted on
10/05/2014 2:52:18 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: boatbums
Actually you are the only one presuming:
Exactly! We already know the question was asked dishonestly because if we said, yes, we would be called liars or poorly catechized. If we answered no, we would be told, See, we dont, case closed!. Some Catholics show a surprising lack of integrity and it comes out in how they speak to others.You presumed to know that my response would be to your answer.
The fact that neither of you chose to give a legitimate answer to simple yes or no questions speaks volumes.
394
posted on
10/05/2014 2:55:16 PM PDT
by
verga
(Conservative, leaning libertarian)
To: boatbums
I don't feel badly at all throwing your errors back at you. Do you understand that when Jesus said, "It is finished.", he was speaking of making complete propitiation for the sins of the world?Before saying ridiculous things like this you need to poll the rest of the prot posse. Because that is word for word what they have said previously.
395
posted on
10/05/2014 2:57:38 PM PDT
by
verga
(Conservative, leaning libertarian)
To: boatbums
Do you understand that when Jesus said, “It is finished.”, he was speaking of making complete propitiation for the sins of the world? It is because he kept the law perfectly that he can be the sinless sacrifice for our sins and HIS righteousness is imputed to us, rather than having to stand on our own (which would condemn us for eternity).
This means you aren't required to report to a celestial torture chamber to have red hot pokers jammed up your wazoo for several thousand years. Your sin is forgiven and you may enter directly into HIS presence.
396
posted on
10/05/2014 2:57:49 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: boatbums
We have ALL the New Testament books in Hebrew today as translations but there is no concrete evidence that they were originally written in that language. Jews in Palestine spoke Koine Greek because it was the common tongue (lingua franca) at that time. For two hundred years before Christ was born, the Old Testament had already been translated in Greek especially for that reason.Congratulations on getting something right and engaging in fraternal correction.
397
posted on
10/05/2014 3:00:32 PM PDT
by
verga
(Conservative, leaning libertarian)
To: ronnietherocket3; metmom; CynicalBear; caww; Elsie
Purgatory is penalty for sins committed on Earth but not sins for which penance has been done. The point of Purgatory is not forgiveness, but purification.
Why do you doubt God? With His sacrifice, even the Gentiles were purified!
Acts 10:9-15
About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray. He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.
Surely not, Lord! Peter replied. I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.
The voice spoke to him a second time, Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.
398
posted on
10/05/2014 3:03:49 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
To: vladimir998
Matthew quotes from the Old Testament more than any of the other three gospel writers. He records Jesus genealogy accurately. He records Jesus words substantiated in the other gospels. Matthew was an apostle and as such was given this promise that only the twel e were given.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
I'll take Jesus word that the Holy Spirit brought to his remembrance what He wrote.
399
posted on
10/05/2014 3:06:03 PM PDT
by
CynicalBear
(For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
To: boatbums; verga; metmom; CynicalBear; caww
Forgiveness of our sins and consequences for our actions are two different things. It is because of God’s mercy that we are not consumed.
Exactly!
So...why won’t the Catholics see the light and realize God won’t make them spend thousands of years in torture to “purge” them of their sins?
400
posted on
10/05/2014 3:07:33 PM PDT
by
Rides_A_Red_Horse
(Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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