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God’s Good Law
Genevan Institute for Reformed Studies ^ | Sept 19, 2011 | Bob Burridge

Posted on 09/02/2014 5:23:49 PM PDT by HarleyD

Lesson 23: Romans 7:1-12

God’s law is not appreciated by fallen man.

The corrupted moral nature we inherit from Adam makes us long to be free from moral obligations, and free from our feelings of guilt.

Some who abhor the idea of answering to some higher authority than their own desires make fun of the moral laws of Scripture. They ridicule the God of the Bible. They believe they are naturally smarter than believers because of what they see as superior assumptions about the way things are and came to be. By convincing themselves that they are more intelligent, they dismiss the moral principles they dislike.

When they get caught breaking a law, they point out how many others have violated it too as if that should excuse them. They might cite special circumstances that exempt them from compliance, or they put the blame on others implying that they were the ones who instigated them and got them in trouble. Shifting blame, and excusing immoral behavior are tactics as old as the Garden of Eden.

This is how the Bible describes the spiritually dead heart. The lost find it hard to show real respect for the law that condemns him. Today we hear a lot about the decline of the “rule of law” in our world. Even the unbeliever can see to a certain degree that a relativistic view of ethics does not work. When humans replace God’s absolute standard with his own attempts to adjust morality to fit varying situations, it creates divisions and anger among people with no foundation for settling differences or ensuring a safe society.

Even some who call themselves “Christians” look for ways to explain away God’s law. Some quote verses taken out of their context to imply that the ministry of the Holy Spirit and the principle of Grace have eliminated God’s moral principles. They use an unbiblical concept of what they call “love” as if it now replaces the commandments of God. Many treat biblical law as if it was just a Jewish concept with little importance to us today. They see it as the opposite of the gospel message. On the extreme there are those who claim that being a Christian is just a change of belief which involves no change of life.

From what they say, you would think they believe God made a mistake by giving his law, and in time he came to regret it. Hopefully no one would go that far. Such a concept makes God an error-prone deity who has to learn by his mistakes. This would be nothing less than horrible blasphemy.

These desperate attempts to escape our obligation to God’s commandments are tragic. They cannot be supported with Scripture taken in its true context. Those who are taken in by them live with an obscured view of God and of how his world works.

Romans 7 helps us understand the continuing value for God’s law when it is rightly understood.

To explain this important benefit Paul takes us through a few steps. He wants us to understand that though God’s law is not and never has been a way to life, it is and always must be the way of life.

There is a sense in which believers are released from God’s law. Paul had been telling the Roman Christians about being set free from the mastery of sin. In Romans 6:14 he wrote, “For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.” In Romans 7 he is dealing with some clarifying issues.

First Paul clarifies a general legal principle:

The word translated as “dominion” by this translation is rendered by others with the word “jurisdiction”. The word in the original text is related to the word kurios (κυριος) which is usually translated as “lord”. It carries the idea of authority. In the legal sense, it is the jurisdiction a court has over citizens in its district.

Death releases a person from legal relationships. Law is only designed in its most general sense to deal with the living. The greatest penalty law can impose is execution. If a person is already dead, then the law’s harshest demand has already been met.

Paul then gave an illustration no one would disagree with who knows the Bible.

1. According to God’s law Marriage is a bond for life. Marriage is introduced in Genesis 2 where Adam and Eve are said to have become “one flesh”. The union of two into one flesh is to last as long as the two live. Death is the only moral means of ending a marriage in God’s sight. It cannot be ended by simply declaring it over. God is said in Malachi 2:16 to be abhorred by divorce. This is why in the traditional marriage vow we promise before God, “till death us do part.”

If the woman has another man while her spouse is alive, she is called an “adulteress.” The Bible demanded the execution of anyone who violated marriage by sexual infidelity. Since infidelity caused the execution of one partner, the marriage was ended by death. The innocent party was no longer bound because the condition of the vow had been met, “till death us do part.”

In the teachings of Jesus we see that in a society where execution is not practiced for adultery, a divorce of the innocent spouse is permitted (Matthew 19:9). It is as if the offender was put to death as God demands.

2. When death ends one legal relationship, it makes way for a new relationship. If a spouse is dead, the living partner is free to be joined to another. Once the conditions of a legal bond are met, the bond is no longer in effect. Only then can a new bond be acceptable.

Paul used this principle, to explain the bondage of our soul by the law of God.

It can get a little confusing in this section if we fail to follow the flow of thought. Paul is trying to explain a complex idea. To make his point he sometimes speaks of bondage in one sense, and at other times in another. In one sense the sinner is bound to sin, in another it is the law that binds him.

This bondage was explained in detail in the first few chapters of Romans. Adam represented all humans. When he sinned, his guilt and corruption passed on to all his natural descendents. Everyone since Adam is separated from God and is called “spiritually dead.”

This “spiritual death” makes them unable to do anything truly good in God’s eyes (Romans 3:10-12). They take God’s glory for themselves. They do what is forbidden. They neglect what is commanded. God’s law both reveals the crime, and demands the sentence. The result is eternal separation from God. That is how the law binds the sinner to sin as his master.

Only by fulfilling the demand of the law can anyone be released from its sentence. God’s justice demands eternal suffering and death, since all have sinned. The suffering and death of Jesus in the sinner’s place releases him from his bondage to sin. Christ satisfies the law’s legal demands, so the person represented is “delivered from the law” in that sense.

Verse 5 shows that our bondage to sin is exposed by our unlawful behavior. Sin is more than just guilt inherited from Adam. It is also a fallen disposition. The corrupted nature puts self ahead of God. It influences the motives that lay behind what may appear to us to be good deeds. When people sin they reveal their sinful passions. They look for perverted ways too satisfy human needs. The law is what defines and exposes sin. It is what condemns the person to the just punishment of death.

Since it is the inner work of new life that sets the sinner free from death by Christ, he is not only released from the old master, he is at the same time joined to a new master. The new lord is righteousness. It both declares the sinner to be innocent by the righteousness of Christ which is credited to him, and it enables him to do what is truly good. The good he does is rendered possible by his restored fellowship with God in Christ.

Verse 6 shows that through the death of Jesus we are set free from our former bondage. The Savior met the demand of death for his people. Instead of the foolish and vain hope of being saved by keeping the outward letter of the law, the redeemed person comes to understand that nothing he can do will remove his guilt. When the Holy Spirit applies Christ’s work he learns that his guilt has been fully removed by Jesus as his Substitute. He is made able to do what is truly good, and is bound to a new master altogether.

Though the Holy Spirit is clearly at work in the application of the work of the Messiah, many translators do not capitalize the word “spirit” in verse 6 (KJV, ASV for example). They see the contrast in the last part of this verse as between the words “letter” and “spirit.” The “letter” [grammatos (γράμματος)] is the law, the written expression of the spiritual [pneumatos (πνεύματος)] reality behind it which is fulfilled in the now finished atoning work of Christ.

The main point in this passage is that we are released from one bondage to be joined to another. Just as the fallen human is exposed by God’s law as a sinner, the law also lays out the kind of behavior that ought to be seen in the Christian. We are set free from sin to be bound to righteousness. Moral and godly living is the goal. The moral principles of God’s law remain binding, but not in the sense of condemnation of or dominion over the redeemed sinner. It is not the law that is put to death. It is our old relationship to it. That was the message Jesus was conveying in Matthew 5:17.

The law of God must be treasured, not despised.

Some might foolishly reason this way. If the law is what obligates us to a standard we cannot obey, and it condemns us inescapably, then is the law an evil thing? Is the law sin? That is the reasoning of the fallen heart. It wants to find fault with the judgments of God’s law.

Paul adds his answer immediately with an emphatic, “No!” Do not let such an idea even be considered! The opposite is true. The law has a very good and important purpose in God’s plan.

The revealed moral law of God exposes sin for what it is in our lives. Paul uses the 10th commandment, “You shall not covet,” to prove his point. It is not just the outward act that makes a thing sinful. It is also the inward greed and coveting that is in itself sinful. We would not know that even our motives and attitudes can condemn us if God had not revealed it to us. It was by God’s law that Paul learned about his corrupt nature and his need for redeeming grace.

Paul was a Pharisee before he was regenerated by grace. He imagined that he was good in God’s sight, spiritually alive, and had done nothing seriously wrong. When the Holy Spirit made him realize the inner truth of the 10th commandment, he realized that where he once saw life, there was really death.

Paul’s experience is like that of everyone else. The sinner is blinded and prejudiced against true justice. He finds fault in the system, in his circumstances, or in others, but not ultimately in himself. He adds up all the good he believes he has done, and imagines that it must count for something in God’s estimation. He fails to see that even his good deeds flow from a corrupt nature. He steals God’s glory and is discontent with God’s provisions. As the Prophet Isaiah said in Isaiah 64:6, “But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags…”

God has given us his law. He graciously sends his Holy Spirit to apply the life-giving work of Christ. By these works of grace we are informed, convinced, and humbled before a Holy God. The law by which Paul thought he could earn God’s blessing, actually condemned him. It drove him to repentance and faith in his only hope, the Redeemer Jesus Christ.

By the new knowledge and life implanted in him, the law became a blessing not a curse. What he once imagined as his way to life, that way which frustrated him, became the rule of life, by which he could show God how much he loved him.

God’s law, therefore, is a good thing!

Paul concludes this section in verse 12.

Being released from the law’s condemnation, Paul learned that his freedom meant being bound to another master, righteousness. The law had served its good purpose, and now had become his guide to living thankfully.

So many today claim that Jesus said that God’s law is now replaced by love. To that we answer, “No!” To use Paul’s expression, “Let it not be!” One of the most tragic of modern deceptions is that Christ ended the moral law of God. In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-18, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.”

Later Jesus was asked which is the great commandment in the Law? Far from putting down the law, Jesus quoted from the law! First he quoted from Deuteronomy 6:5, which comes right after the listing of the 10 Commandments. In Matthew 22:37-38 he said, “… ‘You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment.”

Then Jesus quoted from Leviticus 19:18. In Matthew 22:39 he said, “The second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

After that, Jesus explained that these two words of the law are a summary of the whole of the law. In Matthew 22:40 he said, “On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Jesus saw the principle of love imbedded in the law. The law of God defines what love is all about. He used love as a summary of the law, not as a replacement of it.

Psalm 119 tells us that believers learn to love the law of God. The law is not a mean principle. It is one that is graciously given for our benefit. It shows us the high moral nature of our Creator. It convicts us of our depravity. It exposes what a great debt we owe to our Savior, and helps us appreciate the amazing love with which he loves his people.

Now that we are set free from the old master, we are bound to the new one. The law no longer condemns us or dominates over us as those who remain under the slavery of sin.

The law now guides us as to how those redeemed by grace are to live for God’s glory. Therefore the Christian must keep the moral law of God in the very center of his thoughts. The law gives content to the wisdom presented in verses like Philippians 4:8. Without God’s moral revelations in his law, the terms there would remain undefined.

The Christian walk is not marked out by an attitude of self-pride, or moral arrogance. It is marked by humble obedience. In John 14:15 Jesus said, “If you love Me, keep My commandments.” That saying of Jesus was taken from the Old Testament law also. Five times in the books of Moses God identifies his people as those who love him and keep his commandments.

What once seemed a demanding and condemning set of rules, becomes a welcomed teacher. We use God’s law in evangelism. It is the tool God gives us for convincing the suffering and lost of their need for a Savior. We use God’s law as a guide for society. By it we know what will bring God’s blessing upon a nation and community. We use God’s law as a rule of life. By it we can know how to honor our God, and show him our sincere thankfulness for his grace.

Learn the commandments of God. Teach them to your children. Talk about them in your home. Bring them up in daily conversation. Use them to help the discouraged and depressed of heart diagnose the real cause of their misery. Use them to counsel your friends in Christ as they make decisions. List the promises and benefits of the Law laid out in Psalm 119. Do all you can to treasure and benefit rightly from the wonderful gift of God’s law.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Theology
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To: editor-surveyor; metmom

Which bears no resemblance to what you originally said.


41 posted on 09/03/2014 5:02:38 AM PDT by Gamecock (Not responsible for errors resulting from posting via my "smart" phone.)
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To: Elsie

“There goes the need for that crucifixion thing and the resurrection!”

The Rootsians, as I call them, do not grant this consequence! We are surrounded by error, but it all has the same result in a slander against the necessity of Christ’s incarnation/death/burial/bodily resurrection, as well as His finished work.


42 posted on 09/03/2014 5:28:18 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Elsie

Grace is a free gift from God. No man is worthy of it.


43 posted on 09/03/2014 5:35:00 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: editor-surveyor
The spirit that leads away from obedience is the one that fails John’s test of the spirits, and is not ‘Holy.’

Why do you project that those of us who are not under the law are lead away from the law???

Those who are under the law are in fear...They follow the law in fear...A debt has to be paid...

We on the other hand try to be obedient out of love...Love for God...Without any fear of failure...

44 posted on 09/03/2014 6:48:22 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

Yup!


45 posted on 09/03/2014 11:40:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor; Gamecock
Yes, this is the reality, but so many here think that Grace guarantees them unconditional salvation

We are saved by grace through faith. The word (and law) is our workbook for sanctification. We aren't saved by sanctification but sanctification is evidence of our salvation. If a person does not want to be sanctified, then he hasn't been saved. It isn't HOW we were saved but what we were saved FOR. It should be our DESIRE to be holy and this comes from the word and the law.

2Co_7:1 Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God.

God called us to holiness. That doesn't mean were suppose to stop playing cards or give up PG-13 movies. But it does mean something.

46 posted on 09/03/2014 3:51:54 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: HarleyD

No one has been saved yet.

The saving grace will only be for those who were truly in him, and it will be at the last trump, just as Yeshua clearly stated.

Those that found excuses for rejecting his loving commandments, will hear the words of Matthew 7:23 at the Great White Throne.

Yeshua told us that only the few would find his narrow gate, those that truly sought it.

This has nothing to do with Card games, nor what sort of beverage we imbibe, but how we fed his sheep, and how we kept his commandments holy.

Paul said it, James said it, John said it, and Peter said it. Why do so few believe them?
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47 posted on 09/03/2014 4:30:32 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: HarleyD

Exactly.


48 posted on 09/03/2014 4:33:08 PM PDT by Gamecock (Not responsible for errors resulting from posting via my "smart" phone.)
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To: Iscool; Elsie

Why do you constantly battle a strawman, rather the clear position I quote from God’s word?

No one was ever “under” the law. The law is what is “under” us, supporting us in our quest for righteousness. Had you ever read Deuteronomy 33, you would have had to have seen this foundation of our faith as Moses preached it. Hebrews 3 and 4 is Paul’s tutorial on the same.

Salvation has always been future, at the last trump, by the grace of God, dispensed only to those that truly believe as the word means in the scriptures. Those that believe him live as he did, and follow his loving commandments.

Straw burns!


49 posted on 09/03/2014 4:43:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Gamecock

I said to read the postings, as they tell what is in the heart.


50 posted on 09/03/2014 4:47:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Elsie; Torahman
>> “How do YOU explain the contents of the LETTER found in Acts 15?” <<

Acts 15 clearly calls for hearing Torah read every Sabbath day.

“Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

Matthew 7:23 was specifically for those that twist teachings, like Acts 15.

[15] And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
[16] After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
[17] That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
[18] Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
[19] Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
[20] But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
[21] For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

51 posted on 09/03/2014 4:58:01 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
This has nothing to do with Card games, nor what sort of beverage we imbibe, but how we fed his sheep, and how we kept his commandments holy.

I believe you're partly right. How we keep His commandments are part of our sanctification process. But it hasn't anything to do with our salvation except give testimony to it. Nor can we look at others-only ourselves- as everyone is walking a different walk.

As far as feeding his sheep, I think most of the fruit we bear for God we know nothing about while those things we think are so important are rubbish to God.

Mat 25:37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?

God only wants us to be faithful to Him. He will bear the fruit.

52 posted on 09/03/2014 5:48:04 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: editor-surveyor
Salvation has always been future, at the last trump, by the grace of God, dispensed only to those that truly believe as the word means in the scriptures.

Salvation will be fully realized when we die...Have to dump far, far too much scripture to get to where you are in your understanding of salvation...

so apparently in your view, we are NOT the adopted Children of God...We are not saved but possibly 'being' saved if we strive to please God...

I have far too much scripture under my belt to fall for that false doctrine...

53 posted on 09/03/2014 7:17:29 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: editor-surveyor
Why do you constantly battle a strawman, rather the clear position I quote from God’s word?

Why then; after you 'quote' it, do you fail to UNDERSTAND it and claim it says something else?

Salvation has always been future, at the last trump, by the grace of God, dispensed only to those that truly believe as the word means in the scriptures.

Would you like to QUOTE some more scripture that supports THIS erroneous statement?



John 3:36 

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

 

Ephesians 2:8 

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

 

1 John 3:14 

We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brothers.

 

1 John 5:1 

Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.

 

1 John 5:11-13

And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.

 


54 posted on 09/04/2014 4:49:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor
Acts 15 clearly calls for hearing Torah read every Sabbath day.

Oh?

Why do you quote MATTHEW and fail to show the LETTER in Acts?

55 posted on 09/04/2014 4:50:58 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool

GMTA


56 posted on 09/04/2014 4:51:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

If you love me, obey my commandments.

Here is the patience of the Saints.. here are they that keep the commandments of YHWH and the faith of Yahshua.

You can’t keep the 4th commandment with the greco roman latin calendar. You can keep a man made Sabbath but not His Sabbath.

His New Moons, Sabbaths and Feasts were appointed times for worship, congregating. They were also appointed times for major events in the Messiah’s life.

His birth, circumcision, dedication in the temple, baptism, death, burial and resurrection all occurred on a New Moon, Sabbath or Feast.

So Christendom has declared those days unimportant and december 25, good goddess friya day and easter sun’s day holy.

Counterfeit holy days and sabbaths and feasts would be something I would suspect a master counterfeiter to do to steal worship..

All it would need is a counterfeit savior to go along with all the other unscriptural holy days and then they would be in business of counterfeiting the Messiah of Israel..

A greco roman latin calendar named for a pope, with greco roman latin holy days- all for its greco roman latin savior..

All, a cheap grec roman latin counterfeit for Torah that became flesh and dwelt among us..

But the grip the greco roman latin mother church has on her daughters and the rest of the world is tough to break.


57 posted on 09/04/2014 7:19:21 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante
If you love me, obey my commandments.

And here they are:

Matthew 22:34-40

34 But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence, they were gathered together.

35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,

36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

 

 

Micah 6:8  

He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.


58 posted on 09/04/2014 10:33:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

And those two are summarized with the ten commandments..

Love is obedience..

Ignoring His Sabbath isn’t your fault... it is the fault of the greco roman latin world and its man made counterfeits...Jews don’t observe it either. They too have a pope appointed sabbath day..

But living and worshipping from the greco roman latin template is your choice..

Our Savior said Pseudos (counterfeits, fakes, lies) would come..

And the mother church has proven it with their own lady, the Greco romam latin mary, who points to her counterfeit son in those promises she gives for praying the rosary..

It helped to have a nice Catholic hand me some beads and instructions manual for the rosary to tests that spirit..

But Christendom accepts the false premise of the mother church and argues from there..

The Messiah’s birthday is coming up, according to His calendar... it will be ignored by the supposed ‘bride’..

How can a bride be so ignorant of the bridegroom she claims to ‘love’?

One answer could be that the bride is preparing to marry a different bridegroom.. the one the mother church created.

You may love the mother church... you may hate the mother church...
I don’t know..
But one thing I do know: your work and worship life is based on the mother church(and so does the rest of the world)

If a catholic, you should be proud..
If not, it should make you sick..

Come our of her..


59 posted on 09/04/2014 10:56:18 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: Iscool
so apparently in your view, we are NOT the adopted Children of God...We are not saved but possibly 'being' saved if we strive to please God...

I am puzzled by this phrase. Where did 'adopted' enter into the equation? I was under the impression that God created us all. Who created us if God has to adopt us?

60 posted on 09/04/2014 4:10:31 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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