Posted on 08/20/2014 2:02:05 PM PDT by NYer
Baby gets adopted by loving parents. Grows up and spends a 30 years in a boring factory job.
Baby gets adopted by loving parents. Grows up to be a career criminal, and winds up in prison.
IOW, Baby gets adopted and HAS A CHANCE TO SUCCEED OR FAIL IN LIFE. As opposed to being slaughtered in utero and having no chance at all.
Luther of course, Calvin, Knox, John Wesley (yes, really, and quite vicious). Lots and lots of eminent Britons of the “Age of Reason”, and hordes of Frenchmen. And the usual political suspects, including nearly every European leftist and liberal and avant-gardist of the 19th-20th century. Everyone from Garibaldi to Luis Bunuel.
It wasn't about God at all or politics. It was about MONEY and LAND.
Those institutions wanted and GOT the oodles of land that the Catholic Church owned. It was all about GREED.
No, it wasn’t all greed, or at least not simple Henry VIII type greed. This sort of thing went on long after both the English and French states had sequestered the bulk of Church lands and given them away to their favorites.
It certainly was politics, to a degree, but even that was marginal. There was no political basis for British intellectuals and politicians to be anti-Catholic to the degree so many of them were, as the remnant English Catholics weren’t even a plausible threat to the established order after @1750. A great deal was ideology, and religion, all this being inextricable.
In continental Europe in large part it was clearly politics., as there was a Catholic-Protestant split among the European powers and factions within them. Bismark for instance (a purely political animal like no other) objected to any institution he couldn’t control, and said so, quite frankly. He stopped persecuting the Church when he figured he needed them and could make deals.
Marx (and hordes of both his predecessors and followers) on the other hand had both an ideological and practical objection to Catholicism. Others like Victor Hugo had a purely ideological-philosophical cause.
Its complicated.
Yes, it is.
And this guy’s rhetorical flourishes, getting back to my point, are quite like what all those other people were saying, with a modern flavor of course. His complaints about the Church are driven by complicated mixed motives as they have always been.
I get it and I agree.
ROFLOL!
Thsnks for the correction. I went to Wikipedia in repose to your post. He also had a poisonous article about Anne Coulter. I have never met her but I knew her brother John well as he was finishing high school. I don’t always agree with Anne especially in her choice of POTUS candidates. I was brought up in gritty industrial New Haven and she in ultrawealthy New Canaan. I do feel a protective attitude toward Anne on other issues.
Just another anti-christian professor. They’re a dime a dozen.
Link to the full-text Free Republic thread.
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Dohrn is at Northwestern Law. Ayers used to be at the U. of Illinois / Chicago.
Yes you are correct. I thought they both taught at the same University.
I’d be curious to know what he thinks about Islam.
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