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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; boatbums; Iscool; wmfights; Lee N. Field; CynicalBear; ...
ok, v24 says I will take from the nations and give you your own land. Israel, right? 1948, right? well, think about it. does it says it will take “some” of Israel and give them their own land? NO! It says “you”, meaning ALL ISRAEL. well, did all Jews move to Israel in 1948? NO! my friend B. Rosenthal, lives in NJ. I can assure you he is as Jewish as Jewish gets, is he not part of Israel? Didn’t God keep his promise to B. Rosenthal? next, v25 I will sprinkle clean water on you and clean you from all uncleannesses. WOW, when did that happen in 1948? this verse clearly is talking about baptism and the remission of sins. 99% of the people living in what is called Israel today deny Jesus Christ as the Son of God and have not had their sins forgiven.

Keep watching. It is happening before your very eyes. Getting to this part really soon:

Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Zec 12:4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
Zec 12:5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.
Zec 12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.
Zec 12:7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.
Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
Zec 12:11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.
Zec 12:12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;
Zec 12:13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;
Zec 12:14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

the dispensational fog won’t be lifted until one realizes that the Bible is a spiritual book all about one person, Jesus Christ and his mission to leave glory behind, become man, live a sinless perfect life, thus qualifying Himself to be the perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world and reconcile the elect to the Father in His Body by the power of the Holy Spirit. the Bible is not about who controls a plot of land in the Middle East. dispensationalists can’t tell types and shadows from the reality they portray.

It is all that - But there is much more. Romanists will be astounded to find that every_single_word ever uttered by YHWH will certainly come to pass - Every jot and tittle. Every promise to Israel must be, NECESSARILY, lest YHWH be made a liar. It is as intrinsic and sure as the words uttered to bring forth all of creation.

56 posted on 08/21/2014 3:16:22 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
Romanists will be astounded to find ...

Israel: What do Catholics believe about the Jewish people?

The link explains the Catholic view, that "Israel" is comprised of both all Jews and "New Israel" (Jewish and Gentile believers starting with the twelve Jewish Apostles).

70 posted on 08/21/2014 3:50:57 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: roamer_1

Zec 12:4 “In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness”

boy, that will be something to see when all those horses are smited and the soldiers on them go mad. see how silly dispensationalism is?


76 posted on 08/21/2014 4:23:00 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: roamer_1

You do a yeoman’s work here; if only the blind were capable of reading what you post with understanding, rather than in search of avenues of derision.
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He has sent strong delusion to many here.
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93 posted on 08/21/2014 6:20:43 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: roamer_1

King James Bible
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places ( Ephesians 6:12 )

this is the battle going on in the world, not some mythical world v. physical Jerusalem military battle.


95 posted on 08/21/2014 6:29:42 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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