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Israel: What do Catholics believe about the Jewish people?

The link explains the Catholic view, that "Israel" is comprised of both all Jews and "New Israel" (Jewish and Gentile believers starting with the twelve Jewish Apostles).

70 posted on 08/21/2014 3:50:57 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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wrong, the Catholic Church has always taught the Church is spiritual Israel and if a Jew wishes to be saved they must do what a Gentile must do to be saved, they must profess the Catholic Faith and they must be baptized into Christ for the forgiveness of their sins and receiving the Holy Spirit. same as Peter preached in Acts 2. the Catholic Church also teaches in Christ, there is neither Jew nor Greek, all are one in Christ.


71 posted on 08/21/2014 4:12:13 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: af_vet_1981; one Lord one faith one baptism
The link explains the Catholic view, that "Israel" is comprised of both all Jews and "New Israel" (Jewish and Gentile believers starting with the twelve Jewish Apostles).

Thanks for the link, although to me, this is very much a new tone coming from the Roman church. I have read reams of this stuff (from them), and this is decidedly different. To be honest, I find it hard to believe, as the Roman church therein draws a distinction between itself and 'Protestant' Replacement Theology... However, I have found her to be the main progenitor thereof historically, the Protestants (those that preach Replacement theology) having retained such from before the Reformation. To draw such a distinction (and place the blame upon Protestants) is highly disingenuous, IMHO. In fact, one would not have to venture far to find that argument espoused by your coreligionists right here on FR:RF, as it has been since I arrived here many years ago.

The construct that 'Israel is special, but we don't know why' shows the inexperience of this new tone, because the Bible tells you 'why', and does so explicitly. What is not admitted revolves around the rejection of the Millennial Kingdom - Understandable confusion, considering a retained amillenialist viewpoint.

I don't know how that can jibe, btw, because if one does not admit the promises yet to be fulfilled, then one need not admit Israel's 'specialness' either.

But that being said, perhaps you should show it to 1F1L1B...

174 posted on 08/22/2014 1:34:17 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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