Posted on 08/10/2014 6:27:12 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
Pressured by the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), Marys Gourmet Diner in Winston-Salem, North Carolina, has terminated its offer of a 15% discount for customers who would pray publicly as they ate.
Once the FFRF learned of the restaurants discount, its attorney Elizabeth Cavell threatened the diner with a complaint in an August 4 letter. Co-owner Mary Haglund immediately capitulated, emailing Cavell on August 6, "I am notifying you & the FFRF that as of today we are no longer offering the 15% discount for Praying in Public."
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Truthfully, it was not cowardice, but lawyers. Were they taken to court, it would have cost them thousands of dollars, win or lose, with a good chance they would have lost.
A better alternative in the future would be to reach an agreement with several local churches to have the entire restaurant reserved for a few hours one night a week for a “club” meeting of those churches congregants and clergy. Including prayers before and after the dinner, and maybe even a religious speaker. With a discount for the dinners served to the club.
They would only offer “club” nights once a week, and would book just that club for years in advance, so the atheists couldn’t book a club night.
In this way, though the atheists won the battle, they would lose the war.
I wonder where major league pitchers who say a prayer on the mound each inning get their discounts.
The Freedom From Religion Foundation is a hate group and NO ONE should ever cave in to them.
Absolute truth.
Forces???
I dare and double dare the FFRP to walk into a Muslim butcher and tell him he can’t pray over halal meat preparation.
I triple dare them to walk into any mosque and tell muslims they can’t pray in public at work, and especially with prayer rugs.
Or let them try and tell a Jewish meat market they can’t sell kosher chicken and see how far that gets them.
Thank you for saying that. I'm sure as restaurant owners they don't make a fortune and cannot fight these assholes in court.
I just hope everyone goes into their restaurant and prays discount or not. My son and his family always pray at restaurants before eating. Wonder when they will get kicked out for praying before a meal? It will happen some day.
The senior discount was my first thought as well. There is nothing intrinsically discriminatory about requiring a prerequisite in order to qualify for a discount. I bet the restauranteur would have accepted one of the FFRF’s making a prayer to Gaia...or to nothing ;’)
There was no witness involved—the ownership they just wanted to establish a place where people could pray if they wished.
No it’s not. The future of atheism is conversion to the truth that there is a God that loves them.
I agree that the FFRP is worse than any terrorist group, and the sooner its members rot in hell the better.
But what is this crap about paying some one to pray?
Or praying because some one is paying for it?
How would the ones who is paying for it know that they were getting their moneys worth?
If we pray like Jesus told us to no one is even going to be aware we are praying except us and God.
Of course it is obvious just by sitting in a café that most people do not pay any attention of how Jesus told us not to make a big to do when praying but to do it in secret.
And the people who are praying for the discount and those who are paying are just as bad as the FFRP.
Correction, I don`t mean they are bad in the evil sense but maybe just niave.
I do, too. Caving in to these bullies only encourages more bullying.
No, only to people over 65. Isn't that discrimination against those who are younger?
This isn't a government organization. They can offer discounts to any group they like.
Could it be that C: Maybe was threatened by PHYSICAL violence as well? It would not surprise me if that could have been a factor.
Why do you need a discount to pray? It’s Biblical, puts one in mind of the Pharisees show offs. Praying is free no discount is needed.
I can enter any eatery and humbly pray over my food. I don’t need to make a show piece of doing so. Or need a discount to do it. I do it because I love my GOD.
Rather give a discount to Seniors, Military and Retired Military.
It is nice they wanted to do so, but it was not a necessity to a true Christian.
One of the major problems is that congress changed the law so that lawsuits about “religious discrimination” can recover the lawyers fees separately from the judgment.
This quickly became the “federal funding to support the ACLU” law, because the ACLU then extorted school districts around the US by threatening to sue them over even slight infractions, which would mean small judgments but gigantic lawyers fees. In most cases they agreed to settle for ‘just’ half of what they might have won. ‘Half’ of exorbitant is still obscene.
It also caused atheist organizations to get a hundred times the funding they had before, if they could hunt up any real or imagined slight and sue.
So religions and religious people truly need to lobby to get this change in the law stopped.
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