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To: xone
Something he never claimed to be BTW

okay, call him an exCatholic priest who demonstrated exceptional wickedness. Both Luther and Hitler proved to be rebellious, ex-communicated Catholics who shared a common, ancient, hatred of the Jews you can source to the serpent in Genesis or dragon in Revelation. They led millions who invoked, and millions more who still invoke, their names in solidarity with their AntiSemitism.

860 posted on 07/30/2014 8:57:44 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
Both Luther and Hitler proved to be rebellious, ex-communicated Catholics who shared a common, ancient, hatred of the Jews you can source to the serpent in Genesis or dragon in Revelation.

And just how many corpses did THEY dig up and chop their fingers off?

870 posted on 07/30/2014 10:33:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
call him an exCatholic priest who demonstrated exceptional wickedness.

Wickedness forgiven by the blood of Christ.

ex-communicated Catholics who shared a common, ancient, hatred of the Jews you can source to the serpent in Genesis or dragon in Revelation. They led millions who invoked, and millions more who still invoke, their names in solidarity with their AntiSemitism.

And the non excommunicated Catholic leaders and Popes who engaged in the same sin, did they lead any to solidarity in anti-Semitism, or is your indignation solely for the excommunicated? The popes referenced, did they inspire others or were they just an anomaly when they drove Jews from their homes, imposed taxes similar to the Muslim jizya, in their persecution of Jews? How about today "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims;" the muslims over the Jews? Seems anti Jewish.

Do Muslims worship the same God?.

Just a blog, but a favorite son of the Catholics. Catechism puts Muslims in front of Jews and other Christians (not that the Christians care what the Catholic catechism says)but dogging on the Jews seems a little oh I don't know; anti Jewish. After all, the Jewish Catholics had written the OT seems discriminatory to put them behind the Muslims.

You never did give me an answer to the question 'when will the Catholic church be shed of it?' (anti-semitism)

899 posted on 07/30/2014 12:31:23 PM PDT by xone
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To: af_vet_1981; xone
okay, call him an exCatholic priest who demonstrated exceptional wickedness.

Did he hold a candle to these guys?

Top 10 Most Wicked Popes

http://listverse.com/2007/08/17/top-10-most-wicked-popes/

1. Liberius, reigned 352-66 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
2. Honorius I, reigned 625-638 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
3. Stephen VI, reigned 896-89 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
4. John XII, reigned 955-964 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
5. Benedict IX, reigned 1032-1048 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
6. Boniface VIII, reigned 1294-1303 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
7. Urban VI, reigned 1378-1389 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
8. Alexander VI, reigned 1492-1503 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
9. Leo X, reigned 1513-1521 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]
10. Clement VII, reigned 1523-1524 [Catholic Encyclopaedia]

Top 10 Worst Popes in History

http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-worst-popes-in-history.php

1. Pope Alexander VI (1431 – 1503)
2. Pope John XII (c. 937 – 964)
3. Pope Benedict IX (c. 1012 – 1065/85)
4. Pope Sergius III (? – 911)
5. Pope Stephen VI (? – 897)
6. Pope Julius III (1487 – 1555)
7. Pope Urban II (ca. 1035 – 1099)
8. Pope Clement VI (1291 – 1352)
9. Pope Leo X (1475 – 1521)
10. Pope Boniface VIII (c. 1235 – 1303)

971 posted on 07/31/2014 5:28:23 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: af_vet_1981; xone
Sorry af_vet, as a Catholic and a history-lover, I reject any simplified clubbing together of Luther and Hitler

Luther hated those who did not agree to his theological ways. He railed against those who followed Judaism who were not convinced by his teachings to become Christian. He railed against Catholics and against followers of Zwingli etc for the same reason

But Luther did not hate the Jew who converted. he did not have any racial hatred

hitler on the other hand had (false) race theories that meant that even one drop of Jewish blood made you hate-worthy.

QUITE different.

The Nazi's "racial purity" laws were insane -- he promoted "Aryans" but slaughtered gypsies and Poles. He took Luther's diatribe against a religious group that would not convert to Luther's ways and made it about a race.

Luther would be appalled at Hitler and write diatribes against him and the Nutzis I bet.

995 posted on 08/01/2014 12:42:08 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: af_vet_1981; xone
who shared a common, ancient, hatred of the Jews you can source to the serpent in Genesis or dragon in Revelation. They led millions who invoked, and millions more who still invoke, their names in solidarity with their AntiSemitism.

sorry, no. Hitler's hatred of Jews was racial, not religious. Luther's was of followers of a religion, not a race

Quite different

Also, i do not associate Luther with anti-semitism as his earlier tracts about them are quite kind, when he thought he could convert them by the power of his words.

Luther was a mercurial person and his words vary over time

996 posted on 08/01/2014 12:43:59 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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