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Pope Reportedly Promises "Solutions" to Priestly Celibacy
Channel News Asia ^ | 7/13/14 | AFP

Posted on 07/13/2014 6:35:41 AM PDT by marshmallow

Pope Francis promised "solutions" to the issue of priestly celibacy in an interview on Sunday that raised the possibility the Catholic Church could eventually lift a ban on married priests, but was quickly refuted by the Vatican

VATICAN CITY: Pope Francis promised "solutions" to the issue of priestly celibacy in an interview on Sunday that raised the possibility the Catholic Church could eventually lift a ban on married priests, but was quickly refuted by the Vatican.

Interviewed by Italy's La Repubblica daily, Francis also condemned child sex abuse as a "leprosy" in the Church and cited his aides as saying that "the level of paedophilia in the Church is at two per cent".

"That two per cent includes priests and even bishops and cardinals," the pope was quoted as saying.

Asked whether priests might one day be allowed to marry, Francis pointed out that celibacy was instituted "900 years after Our Lord's death" and that clerics can marry in some Eastern Churches under Vatican tutelage.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; celibacy; pope; popefrancis
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Francis pointed out that celibacy was instituted "900 years after Our Lord's death".........

Say what?

The Spanish Council of Elvira (between 295 and 302) imposed celibacy upon the three higher orders of the clergy; bishops, priests, and deacons and the writing of Church fathers on the desirability of celibacy and the practice of it precedes even this.

Another interview, another damage control operation.

1 posted on 07/13/2014 6:35:41 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

NOT TRUE.

Unless Pope what the pope “says”, comes from Vatican news, it’s NOT true.


2 posted on 07/13/2014 6:37:45 AM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: marshmallow
If you listen to the wives of vicars and ministers, THEY say that celibacy really is better. A man who tries to be FOR ALL the best husband, father and vicar/minister finds that there simply isn't enough time in the day or enough of him to go around for everyone who needs him.

Even the Russian Orthodox don't permit marriage AFTER a man becomes a priest. There must be a reason for that or why would it matter?

3 posted on 07/13/2014 6:42:38 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: marshmallow

I thought RC Deacons could be married?


4 posted on 07/13/2014 6:54:13 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: headstamp 2

`My understanding is Deacons can be married if they were married before becoming Deacons. They cannot marry after becoming Deacons.


5 posted on 07/13/2014 7:00:55 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Praise to the Lord the Almighty the King of Creation)
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To: HerrBlucher

Per Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacon#Roman_Catholicism

“The permanent diaconate can be conferred on single men 25 or older, and on married men 35 or older, but an older age can be required by the episcopal conference.[14] If a married deacon is widowed, he must maintain the celibate state. Under some very rare circumstances, however, deacons who have been widowed can receive permission to remarry. This is most commonly done when the deacon is left as a single father. In some cases, a widowed deacon will seek priestly ordination, especially if his children are grown.[15] (See also clerical celibacy.) The wife of a permanent deacon may be sometimes considered a partner in his ordained ministry. In many dioceses, the wife of the diaconal candidate undertakes the same education and training her husband does.”


7 posted on 07/13/2014 7:11:12 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: marshmallow

which was a local council. Yes, the church in Rome had a tradition of celibacy very early on. When I say Rome I don’t mean the whole western Church. In Ireland in the early days, there were married bishops. In the Orthodox Church they have married priests and celibate monks, the bishops are chosen from among the monks. I think theologically there should be no problem in changing the rules to conform to the Orthodox model —but the stumbling bloc appears to be more political.


8 posted on 07/13/2014 7:12:29 AM PDT by brooklyn dave (The Emperor has no clothes! Nor brains, nor integrity and a host of other attributes.)
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To: headstamp 2

A transitional deacon — the year before he becomes a priest is celibate.

A permanent deacon who serves in a hospital, parish, school, etc. can be married. Their wives accompany them to social functions.


9 posted on 07/13/2014 7:26:23 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Yes, the reason I asked was that I attended a funeral service at a funeral home given by a married RC Deacon wearing full vestments.

He gave a very nice service.


10 posted on 07/13/2014 7:34:43 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Kenny Bunk

Kenny,

Yer bein’ judgmental, again.

Perhaps the Alter Boys like it. Purple Priests say so, and surely they wouldn’t lie. Neither would a Pope a closeted commie, nor a Queer be.

Right?

;-)


11 posted on 07/13/2014 7:51:40 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: mgist
"Unless Pope what the pope “says”, comes from Vatican news, it’s NOT true."? Or what is quoted as saying, was not true. (or complete.

Here we go 'round and 'round again...

12 posted on 07/13/2014 7:52:16 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Department of Redundancy Department.)
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To: headstamp 2

Yes. Married men can become deacons. Deacons cannot get married.


13 posted on 07/13/2014 7:53:27 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Department of Redundancy Department.)
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To: GladesGuru

**Alter Boys **

What are they altering? The altar that they serve at? I don’t think so.


14 posted on 07/13/2014 7:56:06 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
My husband's side of the family includes a ton of McNabbs.

McNabb means "son of the Abbot."

15 posted on 07/13/2014 7:57:01 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Department of Redundancy Department.)
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To: brooklyn dave

It’s my understanding that Orthodox priests are still expected to remain unmarried if they were so before their ordination. The difference between Orthodox and Catholic is that married men are allowed to be ordained (with converted, married priests from the Anglican church).


16 posted on 07/13/2014 8:00:41 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

Other restrictions on married Orthodox priests:

If his wife predeceases him, the priest cannot remarry.

A married priest cannot become a bishop.


18 posted on 07/13/2014 8:23:37 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Salvation
What are they altering? The altar that they serve at? I don’t think so.

Their gender identity...

20 posted on 07/13/2014 8:33:12 AM PDT by Iscool
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