Pope Reportedly Promises "Solutions" to Priestly Celibacy

Channel News Asia ^ | 7/13/14 | AFP

[JimRed]

But a queer priest or a pedo-priest can...

Not if he has acted upon his desires and it has become known that he did so. Typically if they rise that high it is because no one reported them early enough.

[JimRed]

Has the usual, godly rule "don't hire sodomites and pedos" been ignored by bad bishops, bad seminary rectors? Yes. That's wicked and maddening, but not surprising...

All the problems in the Catholic Church are caused by sinners sinning. Probably true of your church, too.

For ALL have sinned and come short of the Glory of God...
Romans 3:23

[Mrs. Don-o]

Here's what has me shaking my head:

"Sunday's edition of La Repubblica devotes its first three pages to an account of a conversation between Pope Francis and editor Eugenio Scalfari..."

My eyes darted up to the dateline to see if this wasn't October 2013. No. It's last week. Yikes!

He AGAIN gave an interview to this Scalfari guy who garbled the first one? Scalfari AGAIN did not digitally record it? Scalfari AGAIN did not take written notes? It's AGAIN full of ambiguous stuff which guarantees pain to the faithful, confusion to sincere inquirers, and -- should I dare say, plausible deniability?

I'm not drawing conclusions. I'm just watching, eyebrows climbing toward my hairline.

[cloudmountain]

If there were more men in the ministry, then they wouldn't be overworked and not have enough time for their families and it wouldn't be an issue.

Perhaps so.
For a priest his LIFE is service to God. For a minister, it would have to be less, even if there were more ministers. A man can't give 100% to both, can he?

Being a minister isn't a 9-5 job. It's a calling.

[piusv]

Oh good catch...interesting indeed.

[steve86]

This pattern of non-recording implies consent of the Vatican — they want no hard record of the interviews. What is the agenda here? Hmmmm....

[CynicalBear]

Wait………..I thought celibacy for priests was a voluntary thing. Don’t Catholics tell us that all the time here?

[Iscool]

This is definitely not the case and my point was that priestly celibacy dates from apostolic times, the Council of Elvira, in the 3rd century, being one very early example of mandatory imposition of celibacy, albeit local.

3rd century is not apostolic times...Apostolic times ended before 100 A.D....

[Biggirl]

Pope Francis should simply not have Mr. Scalfari interview him anymore, cannot get the answers right.

[Iscool]

All the problems in the Catholic Church are caused by sinners sinning. Probably true of your church, too.

Could be true...But no one in my church promotes queers or any one unmarried to higher positions...In fact, there are no higher positions than a pastor or elder...

[Iscool]

Plus I do believe the apostle Paul said to Timothy, in one of his letters in the Bible that a bishop should be married only once.

Doesn't say that...Says he must be the husband of one wife...No polygamy...

[Biggirl]

Both.

[Iscool]

......Or PLEASE!

What??? Don't we all know that sodomite Catholic priests have been promoted to biship, arch-bishop, cardinal and popes??? Oh please what???

[Biggirl]

Mrs. Don-o is correct though.

[Biggirl]

At least NOW there is 0% percent tolerance of such horrible sinful sins and efforts to clean it up.

[Iscool]

This is where my problem lies since this is a gross distortion and denies the theology and practice of the early Church, starting with St. Paul, who desired that all men might be as himself (1 Corinthians 7:7-8).

Paul may have liked to see this happen but he knew it wouldn't be, especially with any clergy since Paul also tells us that all the clergy must have wives and children...

[DungeonMaster]

“Christian Priest”, oxymoron.

[Iscool]

...well, you know, some on this religion forum are of the opinion that that their churches are free from sin...

No opinion at all...The bible clearly teaches that we Christians are free from sin...We are free from sin but yet we commit sin...

Rom_6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

Rom_6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

And this is Catholic Jerome's version...

6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin may be destroyed, to the end that we may serve sin no longer.

18 Being then freed from sin, we have been made servants of justice.

Apparently you don't even know enough bible to know if your Church is lying to you...And it is...

[Iscool]

Not if he has acted upon his desires and it has become known that he did so. Typically if they rise that high it is because no one reported them early enough.

Nah, there's plenty of homos and pedos in the higher positions who bring them up the ladder knowing their proclivities...

[Mrs. Don-o]

Well, it IS a voluntary thing. If you don't want to be celibate, you don't choose a celibate vocation.

That's pretty obvious, isn't it?