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1 posted on 07/12/2014 8:50:54 AM PDT by Legatus
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I’m not usually one to post something so inflammatory but I’m trying to work this out for myself and can’t.


2 posted on 07/12/2014 8:52:57 AM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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I read somewhere that the different Churches were for the different people.


4 posted on 07/12/2014 9:00:31 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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I generally try to stay away from deep theology. No one seems to agree with anyone on all the details.

I picture evangelists, such as the first apostles, going to a land like India and spreading the gospel. Were some people saved? I sure hope so. Did those people understand with great precision all about baptism, confession, communion and other sacraments, purgatory, contraception, etc? Probably some of that stuff went over their heads or didn’t interest them.

I’m thinking that 2000 years ago, people could be saved without getting all the details “right”.

I am a sinner. I know it. I try to be better. My only hope is in Jesus because I don’t deserve to be in heaven, but perhaps through Grace I’ll make it there.

Why fight over divisive doctrine?


5 posted on 07/12/2014 9:01:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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In our elite, private all Girl Catholic High school that Jews and people of other faith simply couldn't make it.

We were told not to date them...and come prom time...don't even think about bringing a non-Catholic.

7 posted on 07/12/2014 9:09:43 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I'm not interested in converting Catholics to Evangelicalism. I'm interested in their coming to Christ individually and personally, not through the false filter of any church. No church has ever saved a single soul from damnation. We are saved by Christ Himself when we completely accept the truth of what He said:

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father but by Me."

34 posted on 07/12/2014 11:11:56 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441. ex cathedra (infallibly defined):

Ex Cathedra...Infallible...Right from the lips of God...No Protestants in heaven...No one in heaven except a water dripped Catholic...

This papal bull is just that, Bull!!!!

I can't believe you people fall for this...

36 posted on 07/12/2014 11:20:42 AM PDT by Iscool
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Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441. ex cathedra (infallibly defined): “The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has persevered within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church.” http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/FLORENCE.HTM#4

I'm so glad that "Sola scriptura" thingy is so bogus / S

37 posted on 07/12/2014 12:04:11 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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digging up and posting very old or mistaken doctrinal statements from any church (especially those that were anti-Biblical) is of course embarrassing, at least from the perspective of a historian of church history. But, nobody should believe those old teachings are either genuinely Christian or are taught by (in this example) the Roman Catholic Church today.
A Protestant could dig up a number of embarrassing old statements from the 2000 years of Catholic history. A Catholic could dig up a good number of embarrassing old statements from the 500 years of Protetantism. A Jewish believer could dig up a number of embarrassing statements from both of the above. Most of us know that history was not always beautiful. I sincerely believe that too much rehashing of all that stuff does not advance faith today, however. We need to be aware of the past, yes. We do not have to live in the past, nor should we revel in it.
IMHO.


52 posted on 07/12/2014 12:44:41 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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Your pope guy done pulled the rug out from under you.

What's the FR Catholic Coterie going to do, if they can't subvert Protestants?

(It's the particular group that he's making lovey-lovey noises at, that boggles my mind.)

66 posted on 07/12/2014 2:07:53 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("How can there be peace when the sorceries and whordoms of your mother TBN are so many?")
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125 posted on 07/12/2014 5:01:10 PM PDT by piusv
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154 posted on 07/12/2014 9:34:57 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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