Posted on 06/24/2014 2:13:28 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Recently, a friend emailed me with a very common claim, namely, that, Paul hijacked Christianity with no personal connection with Jesus and filled his letters with personal opinions. This could be rephrased in the more common claim: Paul invented Christianity.
This claim is especially common among Muslim apologists who use it in an attempt to explain why the Quran simultaneously affirms Jesus as a true prophet while also contradicting the Bible at every major point. However, since my friend is not a Muslim and is not coming at the issue from that angle, I will just deal with the question more broadly.
My friend alleges that some of the personal opinions of Paul that were interjected into the New Testament include: slaves obey your masters; women not to have leadership roles in churches; homosexuality is a sin (though there is Old Testament authority for this last, Paul doesnt seem to base his opinion on it).
None of [of the above] were said by Jesus and would perhaps be foreign to his teaching, he wrote. I think Paul has created a lot of mischief in Christianity, simply because he wrote a lot and his letters have survived.
Lets deal with this point-by-point.
No personal connection to Jesus
Paul, in fact, did have a personal connection to Jesus. This is revealed in the famous Damascus road accounts in Acts 9:3-9, Acts 22:611 and Acts 26:1218. Paul refers back to this experience elsewhere in his letters, though it is only laid with this level of detail in Acts, written by Pauls traveling companion Luke.
The only way one can maintain that Paul had no connection to Jesus is to rule out the conversion experience of Paul a priori based on a presupposition. Of course, I can argue that such a presupposition is untenable, but that would take an entire post to itself. For the sake of brevity, I would just point out that it is illogical to employ such reasoning. It would go something like, It didnt happen because it couldnt happen because it cant happen therefore it didnt happen therefore Paul had no personal connection to Jesus.
Personal opinions
Yes, Paul does interject his personal opinions into his writing! However, when he does, he clearly delineates what he is saying as his personal opinion as an Apostle.
For instance, in dealing with the issue of marriage in 1 Corinthians 7, Paul clearly distinguishes between his own statements and the Lords.
In 1 Corinthians 7:10, Paul says, To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord) and in 1 Corinthians 7:12, Paul says, To the rest I say, (I, not the Lord) This example shows that Paul was not in the business of putting words in the mouth of Jesus. Paul had no problem showing when he was giving his own charge and when it was a statement made by the Lord Jesus, as it was in this case (Matthew 5:32).
Yet it is important to note that other Apostles recognized Pauls writings as Scripture from the earliest days of Christianity, as seen the case of Peter (2 Peter 3:1516).
Pauls personal opinions and the Law
Out of the three examples, two are directly from the Mosaic Law. Obviously the Mosaic Law couldnt have stated that women should not preach in the church because the Church did not yet exist and wouldnt for over 1,000 years.
The claim that there is only Old Testament authority for the last of the examples is false. The same goes for the claim that Paul does not base his statements on the Law.
It is abundantly clear that Paul actually does derive his statements on homosexual activity from the Law.
For instance, in 1 Timothy 1, Paul mentions homosexuality in the context of the type of people the Law was laid down for (1 Timothy 1:9-11). This short list indicts all people, just as Paul does elsewhere (Romans 3:23), showing that all people require the forgiveness that can only be found through faith in Jesus Christ.
When Paul deals with it elsewhere, he mentions it in the context of other activities explicitly prohibited by the Law (1 Corinthians 6:9-11), again going back to the idea that the Lord Jesus Christ sets apart (sanctifies) His people and justifies them.
As for the command for slaves to obey their masters, this is regularly claimed to be objectionable by critics. By way of introduction, is important to distinguish between what we have in our mind about the institution of slavery as Americans and the institution of slavery as it existed in Pauls day. After all, Paul explicitly listed enslaverers (or man-stealers) in the same list mentioned above (1 Tim 1:10). Since the entire institution of slavery in the United States was built upon the kidnapping of people, it is clearly radically different from what Paul spoke of. Furthermore, the stealing of a man was punishable by death under the Mosaic Law (Exodus 21:16). The practice of slavery in America would never have existed if the Bible was actually being followed.
Paul also exhorted his readers to buy their freedom if they could (1 Corinthians 7:21) and instructing the master of a runaway slave to treat him as no longer as a bondservant but more than a bondservant, as a beloved brother (Philemon 11). Paul grounded his statements in the defense of the name of God and the teaching. Paul said that bondservants should regard their masters as worthy of all honor, not just for the sake of doing so, but so there might be no chance to slander the name of God and the gospel.
The fact is that Paul knew the Law quite well (Philippians 3:5-6) and the Law does deal with slavery.
Ultimately, the claim made by my friend requires more fleshing out on his end and some evidence on his part in order to be more fully dealt with.
Pauls teachings foreign to Jesus teachings?
This is another common claim. First off, one must ask if this statement implies that Jesus would simply have to repeat everything Paul said and vice-versa or else they would remain foreign.
The fact is that there is nothing contradictory between Pauls writings and Jesus teaching. One must wonder why Luke a traveling companion of Paul and the author of Luke-Acts would have no problem writing the gospel that bears his name if he perceived such a contradiction. Furthermore, one must wonder why this apparent conflict was lost on the earliest Christians, including the Apostle Peter, who viewed Pauls letters as Scripture (see above).
In affirming the Law (Matthew 5:17), Jesus affirmed all that Paul that was clearly grounded in the Law. Furthermore, if there was a real contradiction between Pauls writings and the teachings of Jesus, Paul would have been rejected, instead of accepted as he has always been.
The Christian community existed before Paul became a Christian, as is clearly seen by the fact that he was persecuting Christians (Acts 8:1,3), and he even met with the leaders of the early church. They did not reject Paul, but instead affirmed what he had been teaching (Galatians 2:2,9). This makes it even clearer that Paul could not have invented or hijacked Christianity.
As for the claim that Paul has had such a large impact simply because he wrote a lot and his letters have survived, all one has to do is look at the other early Christian writings that survived in order to see that is not a valid metric.
We have seen that the claim that Paul hijacked Christianity is without evidence. While I have taken the burden of proof upon myself in responding to this claim, in reality the burden of proof would be on the one making the claim in the first place. No such evidence has been presented and no substantive evidence can be presented since Paul did not invent Christianity or hijack Christianity or anything similar to it. Instead, Paul was an Apostle of Jesus Christ commissioned to spread the gospel, something that he clearly did by establishing churches and penning many letters under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit that we can still read today.
When one reads the gospels and the other writings contained in the New Testament, the message is cohesive and clear: all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Ro 3:23), God demands complete perfection (Mt 5:48) and all we have earned through our sin is death (Ro 6:23) and hell. Yet God offers the free gift of eternal life to all who repent and believe (Mk 1:15, Ro 10:911) in Jesus Christ, who died as a propitiation (Ro 3:25, Heb 2:17, 1 Jn 4:10) for all who would ever believe in Him (Jn 6:44) and rose from the grave three days later, forever defeating sin and death. Those who believe in Him can know (1 John 5:13) that they have passed from death to life (Jn 5:24) and will not be condemned (Jn 3:18), but will be given eternal life by Jesus Christ (Jn 6:39-40). Paul and Jesus in no way contradict each other on what the gospel is, in fact the four gospels and Pauls letters (along with the rest of the New Testament) form one beautiful, cohesive truth.
However, you wanted an answer. You got one. You don't like it. Not my problem.
You still haven't, and can't, answer my questions...nor can any catholic.
Been fun talking to you.
Soren Kirkegaard? Really? Liberal theological tradition era soundly refuted.
RE: also having nothing good to say about the Apostles chosen by Jesus.
The 8th Chapter of the book of ACTS states thusly,
26 When he came to Jerusalem, he tried to join the disciples, but they were all afraid of him, not believing that he really was a disciple. 27 But Barnabas took him and brought him to the apostles. He told them how Saul on his journey had seen the Lord and that the Lord had spoken to him, and how in Damascus he had preached fearlessly in the name of Jesus. 28 So Saul stayed with them and moved about freely in Jerusalem, speaking boldly in the name of the Lord. 29 He talked and debated with the Hellenistic Jews, but they tried to kill him. 30 When the believers learned of this, they took him down to Caesarea and sent him off to Tarsus.
31 Then the church throughout Judea, Galilee and Samaria enjoyed a time of peace and was strengthened.
So, if Paul was a fake Christian, why would he be commissioned by the believers to Tarsus?
Then there was the Council in Jerusalem that Paul and his Ministry partner, Barnabas attended ( See Acts 15 ).
Peter and all the other Christian Elders were there. They LISTENED attentively to Paul and Barnabas’s testimony about their missionary journey and in the end, it says:
22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas ( Acts 15:22 ).
Why would they do that if Paul was not accepted?
Let’s not forget, Peter, one of the LEADERS of the apostles wrote endearingly about Paul and ENDORSED his letters and compared them to the other scripture (see 2 Peter 3:14-16)
If Paul had nothing good to say about the other apostles, why would Peter endorse Paul?
source?
Source?
Joseph Smith.
RE: source?
The Book of Acts.
Show us that *sacred tradition* IS Scriptural.
Catholics use the premise that tradition supports *sacred tradition*, which is pulling yourselves up by your bootstraps.
Or they appeal, hypocritically, to the authority of Scripture to support tradition.
Saul/Paul was *not* a Jewish rabbi. His teaching was not of Judaism. He was a Hellenist.
Paul’s own words.
Acts 23:
6 But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, Men [and] brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in question.
Philippians Chapter 3
3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, [of] the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
Galatians 1:11-12 (KJV)
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
You either accept this as God’s Truth, or you must rip out every one of Paul’s letters. A casual reading of his revelation however, even by a baby in Christ, reveals that it is straight from Heaven. The Gospels were written so that you might believe Jesus is the Messiah (John 20:30-31). Paul’s letters are written TO the Church, so that Believers understand who they are in Christ. And it unveils the Mystery - that was never disclosed to human beings in past generations as it has now been revealed to His holy apostles (consecrated messengers) and prophets by the [Holy] Spirit. (Ephesians 3:5)
I can understand why proponents of organized religion fear Paul’s revelation. Once those trapped in religious bondage get a taste of the freedom they have in Christ, they will never turn back to the beggarly and elementary things of the world.
Galatians 4:9 (AMP)
9 Now, however, that you have come to be acquainted with and understand and know [the true] God, or rather to be understood and known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and beggarly and worthless elementary things [of all religions before Christ came], whose slaves you once more want to become?
Galatians 4:12 (AMP)
12 Brethren, I beg of you, become as I am [free from the bondage of Jewish ritualism and ordinances], for I also have become as you are [a Gentile]. You did me no wrong [in the days when I first came to you; do not do it now].
I think even Paul clarified there is one Gospel and it was taught by all the disciples and apostles.
1 Corinthians 15:1-8 NASB
Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached to you, unless you believed in vain.
For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.
After that He appeared to more than five hundred brethren at one time, most of whom remain until now, but some have fallen asleep; then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles; and last of all, as to one untimely born, He appeared to me also.
Have you read the Greek?
If you read my exchanges with the others who believe that Paul is a shady character, you will notice one thing in common — THEY DON’T ACCEPT PAUL’s epistles.
Therefore, anything he says about himself ( say, the epistle to the Galatians ) is suspect to these people.
Which is to say, they pick and choose what part of the New Testament they will accept as God’s word.
THAT is exactly what got the PCUSA into this situation (i.e. accepting gay marriage )
If you read my exchanges with the others who believe that Paul is a shady character, you will notice one thing in common THEY DONT ACCEPT PAULs epistles.
Therefore, anything he says about himself ( say, the epistle to the Galatians or his letter to the Corinthians ) is suspect to these people.
Which is to say, they pick and choose what part of the New Testament they will accept as Gods word.
THAT is exactly what got the PCUSA into this situation (i.e. accepting gay marriage )
RE: Joseph Smith.
I hope you are not saying that Paul is like this fellow...
Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles, Peter was the apostle to the Jews.
Those are HIS words.
Acts 9:15-16 But the Lord said to him, Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel. For I will show him how much he must suffer for the sake of my name.
Acts 13:46-48 And Paul and Barnabas spoke out boldly, saying, It was necessary that the word of God be spoken first to you. Since you thrust it aside and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, behold, we are turning to the Gentiles. For so the Lord has commanded us, saying, I have made you a light for the Gentiles,that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth. And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.
Acts 14:27 And when they (Paul and Barnabas) arrived and gathered the church together, they declared all that God had done with them, and how he had opened a door of faith to the Gentiles.
Acts 15:22-26 Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter: The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 22:19-21 And I said, Lord, they themselves know that in one synagogue after another I imprisoned and beat those who believed in you. And when the blood of Stephen your witness was being shed, I myself was standing by and approving and watching over the garments of those who killed him. And he said to me, Go, for I will send you far away to the Gentiles.
Acts 23:11 The following night the Lord stood by him (Paul) and said, Take courage, for as you have testified to the facts about me in Jerusalem, so you must testify also in Rome.
Acts 26:12-18 In this connection I journeyed to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. At midday, O king, I saw on the way a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, that shone around me and those who journeyed with me. And when we had all fallen to the ground, I heard a voice saying to me in the Hebrew language, Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me? It is hard for you to kick against the goads.
And I said, Who are you, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom you are persecuting. But rise and stand upon your feet, for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to appoint you as a servant and witness to the things in which you have seen me and to those in which I will appear to you, delivering you from your people and from the Gentiles to whom I am sending you to open their eyes, so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.
Romans 11:13-14 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch then as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry in order somehow to make my fellow Jews jealous, and thus save some of them.
Romans 15:15-21 But on some points I have written to you very boldly by way of reminder, because of the grace given me by God to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles in the priestly service of the gospel of God, so that the offering of the Gentiles may be acceptable, sanctified by the Holy Spirit. In Christ Jesus, then, I have reason to be proud of my work for God. For I will not venture to speak of anything except what Christ has accomplished through me to bring the Gentiles to obedienceby word and deed, by the power of signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of Godso that from Jerusalem and all the way around to Illyricum I have fulfilled the ministry of the gospel of Christ; and thus I make it my ambition to preach the gospel, not where Christ has already been named, lest I build on someone elses foundation, but as it is written, Those who have never been told of him will see, and those who have never heard will understand.
Galatians 1:15-17 But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone; nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
Galatians 2:1-2 Then after fourteen years I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, taking Titus along with me. I went up because of a revelation and set before them (though privately before those who seemed influential) the gospel that I proclaim among the Gentiles, in order to make sure I was not running or had not run in vain.
Galatians 2:7-9 On the contrary, when they saw that I had been entrusted with the gospel to the uncircumcised, just as Peter had been entrusted with the gospel to the circumcised (for he who worked through Peter for his apostolic ministry to the circumcised worked also through me for mine to the Gentiles), and when James and Cephas and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given to me, they gave the right hand of fellowship to Barnabas and me, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised.
Ephesians 3:1-3 For this reason I, Paul, a prisoner for Christ Jesus on behalf of you Gentiles assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of Gods grace that was given to me for you, how the mystery was made known to me by revelation, as I have written briefly.
Ephesians 3:7-8 Of this gospel I was made a minister according to the gift of Gods grace, which was given me by the working of his power. To me, though I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given, to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ,....
1 Timothy 2:5-7 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time. For this I was appointed a preacher and an apostle ( I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
2 Timothy 4:17 But the Lord stood by me and strengthened me, so that through me the message might be fully proclaimed and all the Gentiles might hear it. So I was rescued from the lion's mouth.
Have you read Peter’s epistle where he states Paul’s epistles are ranked as scripture? Did Jefferson ever read Colossians?
The scriptural illiteracy on this thread is astounding.
Not to us former Catholics......
No Paul states it is the Risen Christ who speaks to him. What Bible are you reading from?
Amen! Good article, thanks.
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