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Traditional Priest Kicked Out Of New York
Creative Minority Report ^ | 6/10/2014 | Patrick Archbold

Posted on 06/10/2014 5:29:59 PM PDT by ebb tide

Updates: I have been provided some background and additional info: Ever since the archdiocese learned of his homily remarks, he has been forbidden to offer public Masses in the NY archdiocese. A letter of complaint has been ldged with his home diocese of Johannesburg, S. Africa, as well as with his nuncio in Pretoria.

Fr. Wylie has been in NYC as a visiting priest for three years. His term at the Holy See's Permanent Observer Mission to the UN was supposed to end in July. Once his remarks got out, he was sent packing immediately; he no longer works there.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Prayer; Worship
KEYWORDS: dolan; francis; holyinnocents; nyc; religiousleft; tlm
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To: G Larry

The churches and priests in the archdiocese of New York who support and celebrate the Traditional Latin Mass seem to be under attack by the powers that be. +Dolan is making it clear that he is not a shepherd to those who honor tradition.


41 posted on 06/10/2014 9:37:47 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: NTHockey

LOL. Seriously. I think many are starting to wake up though...albeit slowly.


42 posted on 06/11/2014 2:35:05 AM PDT by piusv
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To: ebb tide

This is about the Vatican II Church sucking the life out of whatever is left of the Catholic Church. The modernists continue to seek to obliterate all that is Catholic.

But God won’t let them.


43 posted on 06/11/2014 2:41:32 AM PDT by piusv
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To: SpirituTuo; metmom

**If there were a commercial enterprise**

I guess you have a point. At that level we are taliking about Rome Inc.


44 posted on 06/11/2014 4:58:04 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Gamecock

And then you had

Vice President Joe Biden attended mass and received communion on Sunday at St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York where the mass was celebrated by Cardinal Timothy Dolan.

At a time when the administration is being sued by Dolan and the Catholic Bishop’s Conference over the Obama health care provision on birth control, the meeting was seen as an attempt to create a new dialogue.

An Irish American Catholic, Biden receiving communion was also seen as significant. Dolan’s predecessor Cardinal Edward Egan refused to give communion to those who differed with the church on the abortion issue.

Biden says he is pro-life but will not seek to impose his views on others.

Biden met with Cardinal Dolan after the mass for coffee but what they discussed was not made public.

Biden’s latest move comes at a time when the Obama administration appears to be using the VP in a new outreach to American Catholics. -
-www.irishcentral.com/news/new-outreach-to-catholics-as-biden-meets-with-cardinal-timothy-dolan-in-new-york-199835071-237575401.html


45 posted on 06/11/2014 5:45:17 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: SpirituTuo

And so he’s prohibited from performing mass because of remarks done in bad taste, but if he were molesting little boys, he’d be protected by the same authority, and likely shuffled around to another unsuspecting parish.

It’s once a priest, always a priest for gross immorality, but get canned for daring to criticize his higher ups?

The Catholic church has it’s priorities all screwed up.


46 posted on 06/11/2014 6:31:38 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Gamecock; metmom; daniel1212; Syncro; ealgeone
So much for the Roman Catholic unity we keep hearing about.

LOL I wonder if all Catholics consider the Archdiocese of New York, and Cardinal Dolan in particular, to be their fellow servants of the most High Lord?

47 posted on 06/11/2014 10:13:03 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: ebb tide

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/06/on-dismissal-of-fr-wylie-from-new-york.html

The latest: the removal of Fr. Wylie “came directly from the Cardinal’s Office”.


48 posted on 06/11/2014 2:55:09 PM PDT by piusv
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To: daniel1212

Papa Joe Biden The Irish catholic usually attends Sunday service at the Westminster Presbyterian Church with his wife in Wilmington Delaware.

He is prohibited from being involved with his High School Archmere Academy.


49 posted on 06/11/2014 3:18:26 PM PDT by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: metmom

Wow, never miss a chance to cast aspersions against the Church. Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing to the conversation.

The priest can disagree with the Bishop, in private, but it is out of order to do so from the pulpit, generally speaking.

The Homily is a specific part of the Mass where the day’s readings, especially the Gospel, are taught for the benefit of the congregation. It is not a place to gripe.


50 posted on 06/11/2014 3:30:49 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: BlatherNaut

He should have followed his chain of command. By not doing so, he is disrupting the good order and discipline of the parish.


51 posted on 06/11/2014 3:32:54 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: ebb tide
Yes, it’s all about the Traditional Latin Mass.

Does anybody have any explanation as to why the Catholic hierarchy is so against the Latin Mass?

52 posted on 06/11/2014 3:40:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Does anybody have any explanation as to why the Catholic hierarchy is so against the Latin Mass?

It scares the hell out of them. That's the best explanation I've been able to come up with after 15 years of watching certain bishops do everything they can to stamp it out.

53 posted on 06/11/2014 3:48:36 PM PDT by Legatus (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: SpirituTuo

Don’t you think the reaction was extreme regardless?


54 posted on 06/11/2014 3:53:40 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

Great question! Having not heard both sides, in my opinion, the tie goes to the Cardinal, because of his authority.

Have bishops been wrong? Yep. Just ask St. Padre Pio. However, the response of the saints who were wronged by the hierarchy has always been obedience. They bore the wrongs patiently, even into death (St. Faustina).

When a priest or religious begins badmouthing eloquently or otherwise their religious superior, I see unhealthy pride. I was a little put off by Fr. Frank Pavone’s letter, but glad he worked with his bishop to get things settled.


55 posted on 06/11/2014 4:07:46 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: SpirituTuo
However, the response of the saints who were wronged by the hierarchy has always been obedience.

St. Paul was not obedient, nor was St. Athanasius, nor St. Joan of Arc. As a matter of fact, Cardinal Bergoglio public dissed Pope Benedict's Regensburg address.

Have you ever heard of "false obedience"?

56 posted on 06/11/2014 6:24:11 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: SpirituTuo

“He should have followed his chain of command.”

With Captain Queeg at the helm?

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“The contrast of how Fr. Wylie was handled with how was considered, for instance, the affair involving another visiting priest, from the Diocese of Oakland, Califonia, could not be greater. Some years ago, this visiting priest from Oakland had been arrested for a lewd act in public in that city (police report - very graphic content).

Yet last fall he was a regular Sunday and weekday celebrant at the Church of Our Saviour in Manhattan. The Church posted this pleasant goodbye on Facebook when he departed:

He was in residence at the nearby parish of Our Lady of the Scapular and St. Stephen, where he gave an Advent workshop. When parishioners learned of his background and complained to the Archdiocese they were told that he was in good standing with his bishop in Oakland and therefore was acceptable to the Archdiocese.

The visiting priest from Oakland did not celebrate the Traditional Mass.”

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2014/06/on-dismissal-of-fr-wylie-from-new-york.html


57 posted on 06/11/2014 7:39:46 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: ebb tide

Sorry, none of your examples hold up as appropriate for this context. St. Athanius wasn’t disobeying his religious superior, Joan of Arc wasn’t a confessed religious, and St. Paul cries out against disobedience.

In this case, with this priest, his comments are inappropriate, whether the comments are correct or incorrect.


58 posted on 06/11/2014 8:00:24 PM PDT by SpirituTuo
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To: ebb tide

In Phoenix, two traditional priests (FSSP) were attacked with one killed last night. It is a sad week for Catholics, particularly traditionally minded Catholics.


59 posted on 06/12/2014 5:12:22 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If youÂ’re litigating against nuns, youÂ’ve probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: SpirituTuo
In this case, with this priest, his comments are inappropriate, whether the comments are correct or incorrect.

His comments are appropriate under the circumstances, and furthermore, he deserves credit for speaking the truth with charity.

What you seem to be advocating for is a form of clericalism which is divorced from truth and justice. God bless Father Wylie, and may He send us many more courageous priests who are able to discern the difference and speak the truth when justice demands it.

60 posted on 06/12/2014 5:54:39 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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