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How Can Protestants Be Saved?
http://www.thecatholicthing.org ^ | May 9, 2014 | Howard Kainz

Posted on 05/24/2014 8:26:44 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: .45 Long Colt

1 Corinthians 12:25


141 posted on 05/25/2014 1:50:17 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Old Yeller

“Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit”

Ah hah! We’re finally getting somewhere. A protestant that actually believes you have to be BORN OF THE WATER AND THE SPIRIT”!!

Praise the Lord,there is hope for some on FR!


142 posted on 05/25/2014 2:13:04 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: RginTN

It comes from the Bible compiled by the Catholics. Say “Thank You!”


143 posted on 05/25/2014 3:11:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Bidimus1

Do you understand transubstantiation?

Christ turned the bread into his Body. He turned the wine into his Blood by transferring the substance of his Body and Blood but not the appearance of his Body and Blood.

tran=transfer
substantiation=substance.


144 posted on 05/25/2014 3:15:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NKP_Vet
“Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit”

Ah hah! We’re finally getting somewhere. A protestant that actually believes you have to be BORN OF THE WATER AND THE SPIRIT”!!

Praise the Lord,there is hope for some on FR!


The context of the passage surrounding John 3:5 involves being born again, also known as the second birth. Born of water refers to the first birth, since in the womb babies grow in a bag of fluid very similar in composition to sea water. Just prior to birth, the bag breaks, releasing this water and commencing the birth process. Born of the Spirit is the second birth, what we call being born again. That’s when we become a true child of God and secure our place in His Kingdom. (John 1:12) Some Jews believed that being born Jewish automatically qualified a person for the Kingdom. The Lord was teaching Nicodemus that a person has to experience both births to enter God’s Kingdom. It's not referring to baptism.
145 posted on 05/25/2014 3:16:31 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: Bidimus1

Are you saying that Christ does not have power and authority over the Bread and the wine?

You do remember that he is Jesus Christ, God with us, don’t you?


146 posted on 05/25/2014 3:16:46 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: PapaNew

Only if they are forgiven.


147 posted on 05/25/2014 3:20:00 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ZinGirl

You said you believed only in Jesus and the rest was the rest is fluff and noise.

So I asked you if you believe or do not believe in the Holy Spirit. Simple connection.....sorry it baffled you.


148 posted on 05/25/2014 3:22:51 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Bidimus1

Now for the kjv. That’s where the word priest got taken out.


149 posted on 05/25/2014 3:24:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

Sorry that you do not believe in the power and authority of Jesus Christ, God with us.


150 posted on 05/25/2014 3:24:52 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Only if they are forgiven.

Back to post #15.

151 posted on 05/25/2014 3:26:47 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Salvation

“Now for the kjv. That’s where the word priest got taken out”

Did I quote from the KJV ?

No, I used a translation accepted by the Roman Catholic Church in both the United states and Canada. Furthermore had I tried to use New American Bible on the Vatican web site.

I have now managed to make it work for me after a fashion but its a very old bit of code they are using. This is not an accusation I understand using older code so older systems can use it, one of the approved browsers for the Vatican system is Mosaic.

Here are all the passages in the New Testament that contain the word priesthood in the NAB - Hosted on the Vatican Web site

Heb 7:5
The descendants of Levi who receive the office of priesthood have a commandment according to the law to exact tithes from the people, that is, from their brothers, although they also have come from the loins of Abraha

Heb 7:11

If, then, perfection came through the levitical priesthood, on the basis of which the people received the law, what need would there still have been for another priest to arise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not reckoned according to the order of Aaron?

Heb 7:12

When there is a change of priesthood, there is necessarily a change of law as well.

Heb 7:24

but he, because he remains forever, has a priesthood that does not pass away.

2 Pet 2:5

and, like living stones, let yourselves be built 4 into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

2 Pet 2:9
But you are “a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people of his own, so that you may announce the praises” of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light.

All these passages refer to the ending the old High Priesthood and the founding of Christ’s eternal and perfect High Priesthood. Then that all followers of Christ are the royal and holy Priesthood with Christ as the High Priest.


152 posted on 05/25/2014 4:18:17 PM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Bidimus1

Just as I thought. A lot of quotes with the word “priesthood” in them. But where is the word “priest.”

That was to point I was trying to make. In the KJV the words, elder or presbyter were substituted for the word “Priest.”

Eye-opening bias, isn’t it?


153 posted on 05/25/2014 4:21:17 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Maybe what I have been told is not true.

http://kjvbible.net/cgi-bin/search.cgi


154 posted on 05/25/2014 4:28:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: PapaNew

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3159872/posts?page=15#15

Only through the Sacrament of Penance/Reconciliation does someone know for sure that their sins are forgiven.

There is a story about two guys who worked in an office; one was an active Catholic and the other was a lapsed Catholic.

The active guy badgered the other one for a long time and finally got him to go to an evening Mass with him.

While they were there the active Catholic saw that the priest was in the Confessional and encouraged his friend to go to Confession, but he refused.

Undaunted the first guy DID go to Confession.

After the Mass as they were driving home they were both killed in a terrible auto accident.

The lapsed Catholic saw all his sins flash in front of him as God sent him away.

The active Catholic then asked God, “Aren’t I going to see all my sins, too?” God said, “What sins? I don’t remember — you went to confession and I forgot your sins when I forgave them — after you confessed them.”


155 posted on 05/25/2014 4:44:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Bidimus1
BTW, here are the word of Absolution. See who forgives the penitent's sins!

Catechism of the Catholic Church

 

1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:

 

God, the Father of mercies,
through the death and the resurrection of his Son
has reconciled the world to himself
and sent the Holy Spirit among us
for the forgiveness of sins;
through the ministry of the Church
may God give you pardon and peace,
and I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

 


156 posted on 05/25/2014 4:45:58 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
Only through the Sacrament of Penance/Reconciliation does someone know for sure that their sins are forgiven.

Where does the Bible say that?

Galatians says that any other gospel than the gospel of the grace of Christ is twice cursed (Gal 1:6-9).

157 posted on 05/25/2014 4:51:19 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Old Yeller

Baptism is a sign of regeneration and cleansing of the believer. After you have accepted Jesus Christ as your savior you are then baptised with water and the Holy Spirit! Water signifies new birth in Christ. Your sins have been “washed away”. You start anew..........


158 posted on 05/25/2014 4:53:56 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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To: Salvation
I said, Jesus is my savior, the rest is fluff and noise.

you said, "Are you saying that you don’t believe in the Holy Spirit to guide you day by day?"

implying that Jesus has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit.

sorry...not going to play your game.

have a nice day.

159 posted on 05/25/2014 4:54:33 PM PDT by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: Salvation

read the thread’plenty of’people have posted specific verses.

there sure as hell isn’t a quote saying you gotta be roman catholic to be saved. and if you think there is i’d like to see it.


160 posted on 05/25/2014 5:07:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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