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To: Elsie; metmom

Okay.

Then this: http://ag.org/top/Beliefs/Position_Papers/pp_downloads/pp_4178_security.pdf (from the Assemblies of God webpage metmom linked to in post 217)

Seems significantly different (to me) than this:

http://www.arpsynod.org/downloads/Confession%20of%20Faith.pdf

(Which is the Westminster Confession, which the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church holds to, according to the link http://arpchurch.org/documents/confession-of-faith/ which metmom provided in 217)

Specifically, chapter 18 (XVIII), paragraph 4 (IV).

To put it simply, the AOG believe salvation can be lost, while the Presbyterians (at least the ones in post 217) do not.

That’s what it seems like to me. And that, seems like a significant difference between those two groups. That’s just one example.

But I really do guess it might just be me. Maybe I’m not seeing some subtlety, some Protestant apologetic that will “explain” how what I said above is not true, which is entirely possible. But you know what? If that’s the case, I don’t want to hear it anymore from any Protestant how the Catholic Church is too “legalistic” or “complicated” or “academic” or “uses word games to explain things away without considering how they are wrong”.

Because to me, if there is some kind of “explanation” as to how the difference I indicate above is not a difference after all, that’s exactly how such an “explanation” will sound to me.

So this is where we are. Either you agree that there is a significant doctrinal difference between at least the AOG and the Presbyterians, or we are left with a situation where we just have to agree to disagree. Which is FINE by me. Which is REALLY why I simply asked you from the start, “Do you really see no differences between the “churches” metmom posted in 217?”

Because if you don’t, then our little “chat” here ends, right there, because there’s really nothing left to say if we reach that point.


657 posted on 05/27/2014 4:57:22 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven
To put it simply, the AOG believe salvation can be lost, while the Presbyterians (at least the ones in post 217) do not.

That’s what it seems like to me. And that, seems like a significant difference between those two groups. That’s just one example.

Since there IS scripture that gives weight to BOTH the AOG folks as well as the Presbyterians; what do CATHOLICS say?

They are the ones claiming to be RIGHT.


"I drive my body and train it, for fear that, after having preached to others, I myself should become disqualified."
1 Corinthians 9:27
 
 
The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels
Revelation 3:5
 

658 posted on 05/27/2014 5:49:17 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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