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1 posted on 02/27/2014 12:52:33 PM PST by Talisker
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To: Talisker

High and outside...strike three.

Nice try.


2 posted on 02/27/2014 12:56:58 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Talisker

There is a first amendment right to share your faith. In keeping with that, a bakery could simply print selected scriptures on their cake boxes that point out the unbiblical nature of homosexuality.

If the homosexual “couple” disagreed with the printing on the boxes, well that’s just too bad.


4 posted on 02/27/2014 1:02:07 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Talisker

Even with this “roundabout solution” you have proposed, there would be “Christian churches” which would allow homosexual weddings and let the homosexuals join the “Christian cake club”. It would be just one more opportunity for those promoting the gay agenda to get some press, showing how they are so persecuted by the rest of us.


7 posted on 02/27/2014 1:08:30 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: Talisker

No the way around it is do like the Jew’s did in the days of the inquisition when Jew’s weren’t permitted to own business and were overcharged at the “lawful” businesses. They created an entire underground economy. One Jew might bake bread and trade it to another Jew who made clothes, then trade the clothes to another Jew who had grain. Thereby circumventing the entire tax structure and economy. Then were so successful that the “lawful” businesses were losing so much business that petitioned to get the laws repealed.


9 posted on 02/27/2014 1:10:11 PM PST by apillar
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To: Talisker

I similarly thought of churches who do not wish to marry gay people will have to stop marrying just anybody who turns up at their door. They will have to revert to only marrying people in good standing within the church - this means they would need to be regular attendees and hold true to the stated beliefs of that church. For too long anyway have many young couples used the church as a nice photo back drop for their particular nuptials without being even associated with the church.


11 posted on 02/27/2014 1:17:23 PM PST by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Talisker

Or you could just realize you’re in the cake making business and stop whining and worrying about what people are doing around the cake. Really this whole kerfuffle is idiocy pretending to be principal, make the cake, get their money, move on with your life. Or if you really really don’t want to, lie, tell them your booked, and move on with your life. Once you decide you need to approve of your customers you’ve opened up a can of worms that leads to no good at all.


16 posted on 02/27/2014 1:27:33 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Talisker

Oh, I’m going to get mesothelioma for sure, but I am putting on my asbestos dress for this one:

ONE REASON CONSERVATIVES CANT REACH THE MIGHTY LOW INFO VOTERS IS that often we are seen exactly like the left, pushing our beliefs onto others.

Let’s remember. This country was founded on freedom to worship — nay, LIVE, -— as we wish. Just sell your cakes, seat people at your restaurant, fix people’s cars, rent out your apartments. BELIEVE ME, your customers and tenants will ALL BE SINNERS. None of your business. The Bible lists a lot of sins that are worse than sexual behavior, including lying and gossiping and cheating people.

We as a conservative, return to the Constitution movement would be best pursuing one mindedly that purpose, not refusing to treat or serve people whose sins are more apparent.

Or else change your line of work to one where you don’t deal with the public at all.


19 posted on 02/27/2014 1:33:27 PM PST by Yaelle
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The Judges and the lawyer arguing the issue have it all wrong - its not a civil-rights issue. When one asks the state for permission and a license to do something its a privilege not a right. One does not ask permission of the state and get a license to exercise a right. A marriage license falls into the same genre as drivers licenses, businesses licenses etc. A marriage license can be issued and revoked like any other privilege.

Accordingly, since it never was a rights’ issue the 14th does not apply any more then it does with driver’s licenses.


21 posted on 02/27/2014 1:37:55 PM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: Talisker

These things will have to be taken head on,
because any “workaround” that you propose will be stomped on by the homos and the State.

You have to remember that their goal is the criminalization of Christianity and respond appropriately.


34 posted on 02/27/2014 1:59:13 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Talisker

I’d bake the cake but seed it with saltpeter - goodbye honeymoon!


60 posted on 02/27/2014 4:17:43 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Talisker

“Sure, I’ll do the cake for you....Oh, by the way, I’ll be donating all proceeds on this job, in your names, to a pro-traditional-marriage organization of my choice. Still want the cake?”


63 posted on 02/27/2014 4:28:41 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Talisker

For the cake thing, the simplest thing in my mind to do is to have a catalog.

And for the wedding cake part of the catalog, you simply do not offer customization: to include cake toppers and names on the cake.

(Same thing, I guess, for the anniversary cake part of the deal as well)

In other words, do product sales only. Period. If it isn’t in the catalog, you don’t do it. Period. No substitutions that aren’t listed in the catalog.


More challenging would be the wedding photographer. What I would do in his/her situation is to draw up non-exclusive agreements allowing him to provide services at select churches. Then he could select the churches where he’ll provide wedding photography. So he has arrangements with Father Smith from St Mary’s Catholic Church, Father Jones from Christ LCMS Church, Brother Carson from First Baptist Church, Pastor Mason from Westminster PCA Church.

So if Bob and Mary come in to schedule photos for their wedding at St Mary’s, no problem. However, when Lloyd and Lance come in to schedule the photographer for St Judas Iscariot Episcopal Church...the photographer can truthfully tell the couple: “Sorry, but I only do wedding work with churches where I have formal written arrangements. I’m afraid I don’t have such an agreement with St Judas. Perhaps I can refer you to a photographer who does. Or if you’re dead set on having me shoot your wedding, perhaps you could talk to Brother Carson over at First Baptist. I’m sure he’d be happy to let you use his church for your affair. Once you bring me appropriate documentation from Brother Carson, I’ll be more than happy to have a consultation with you.”


69 posted on 02/27/2014 6:14:50 PM PST by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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