Posted on 02/27/2014 12:52:33 PM PST by Talisker
I believe I have developed a simple, yet effective workaround to the new powers our government has handed homosexuals - specifically, the ability to force people to do labor against their religious beliefs (I never in a million years thought I would write such a sentence in America).
The solution is to identify the specific kind of issues over which homosexuals are likely to invoke their involuntary servitude powers, and separate those issues into a private Christian club.
An example: Christian bakeries would now put up a sign stating that they no longer make wedding cakes. Any wedding cakes, for anybody. They make all sorts of other cakes, including birthday cakes, but not wedding cakes - even for Christians.
Then, they would advertise a separate, private business: the Christian Wedding Cake Club. It would take a nominal fee to join ( say, five bucks), and also require the person to be a member in good standing of an affiliated Christian Church - one that has already been vetted and accepted into the club. Then, for those members only, the bakery would make and sell Christian wedding cakes.
There would be no hiding here - the purpose of the club would specifically be to make wedding cakes only for certain people affiliated with certain churces of a certain religious tradition. But those people would all have to join the club to get their cakes. And all of the members of the church would not have to join, and people who wanted a wedding cake would not have to join until they wanted their special wedding cake.
This is completely legal, and takes very little time to set up. All a Christian baker would have to do is call around to various pastors and confirm the “type” of Christianity they practice, let them know what the club is, and exchange confirmation letters. The actual club itself would be informal and non-profit.
That’s it. And it would also help with advertising, and there could be special discounts and sales at times for members of the club - whatever. And it can be done with any type of business, and any number of churches, and can even be run from the Web.
The principle here is that the bakery would be serving the needs of the club - and the club would need wedding cakes for its duly admitted Christian members. That way, nothing associated with wedding cakes would have anything to do with being “open to the public,” nor the general sales of the bakery.
In the Sherlock Holmes story “The Blue Carbuncle,” one of the characters puts up a coin every week at his local pub so that come Christmas, he can afford a goose. The pub runs a “goose club” for this purpose. You cannot come into the pub and buy a goose unless you are a member of the goose club. This is the same idea.
To get rid of this method, the government would have to get rid of private clubs altogether. I’m not saying they won’t try, since homosexuality now seems to be superior to the entirety of the Constitution. Nevertheless, until then, this is a clear, safe and easy way to refuse to comply with this new totalitarianism while staying completely legal.
And, of course, if a homosexual is a member in good standing in one of the affiliated Christian churches, they too can have a wedding cake made for them. So it’s all perfectly fair.
Literally nothing you said made any sense.
FOR ANY REASON if I operate a private business I should have the right to sell what I want to whom I want without having to justify it to anyone.
Certainly, the NFL made that choice when it chose not to allow certain commercials to air on the Super Bowl.
If I’m a doctor, you shouldn’t be able to pass a law compelling me to provide my services to you at $6.65/hour, regardless of your motives for passing that law.
As for balkanizing the economy, I have never, ever encountered more ignorance in less words in my life. The FREE ENTERPRISE is SELF BALKANIZING. People who have goods and services choose which customers they want to serve based largely on PRICE, but there are other factors too.
Not having your brand associated with, say, LA street gangs may mean not making your products available in certain geographies.
I’m going to stop using the word ‘balkanizing’ in an economic context because it is a political term. It’s like saying ‘we should twerk raises to stimulate more spending in lower income regions.’
Actually, forget it, there is no good analogy.
In fact, I just read a guide on spotting disinformation people on forums and I think you two geniuses fit the bill.
If the concept of retaining ultimate discretion over what and who you choose to conduct commerce with not extend somehow to your right to free association, then you aren’t idiots, but people willfully engaged in disinformation.
Nobody can be that stupid, not even liberals.
It solves the problem in that no other homosexual couple will ask them to bake them a cake.
“Sure, I’ll do the cake for you....Oh, by the way, I’ll be donating all proceeds on this job, in your names, to a pro-traditional-marriage organization of my choice. Still want the cake?”
I am on your side, but the pitch IS outside. Costco could not legally limit its membership to Christians.
I did like the idea of including scripture with the boxes. But the box is not seen at the wedding reception. Include it ON the CAKE in some manner as a feature included on ALL your cakes.
Well said, but if he were asked to make a poison cupcake for a wife to serve her husband, he could (and had better) refuse. He certainly has made cakes for sinners, but he need not make a cake to celebrate an occasion he believes to be sinful.
Just wow...what a stunning display of stupidity.
If you don’t want to do business with someone, fine. You are welcome to do exactly that. When you state WHY, then you enter into another arena and it is not commerce.
So do not lecture me about liberty. I am not the one trying to defend the indefensible, it is you.
If some homo comes into your business, flaunting being a homo, and you react in the negative and refuse to do business with them on that basis, you are dumber than they are. Because he has infected your mind, ruined your day. He’s living in YOUR head RENT FREE. The homo goes on about his business never giving you a second thought. Maybe he goes to a lawyer and makes your life hell, but does the homo suffer any distress...I doubt that. He’s laughing at you just as I am, because you are stupid, and stuck on stupid at that.
>> However, the Christian baker who makes cakes every day may have, just yesterday, sold a birthday cake to a man who cheats his business partner. This morning he may have sold a cupcake to a woman who poisoned her husband. He has sold every cake he’s made in the last 13 years to a sinner. Many of them unrepentant and sinning further.
The flaw in your argument is this: the cake is not part and parcel of the business cheater’s sin, nor the husband poisoner’s, nor any of the other unrepentant sinners.
It’s different with the queers. They want to force the Christian baker to bake a cake that will CLEARLY — CLEARLY — be used IN THE MARRIAGE CELEBRATION. Thus, they make the Christian baker not only privy to the sin, but a PARTICIPANT in the sin.
And let’s also get real here. There are bakers all over town that could care less who orders the cake, or why. Yet the fags don’t want to patronize THEM. Au contraire! It is their DESIGN to put their finger in the eye of the Christian. It is their singular and only design to force the Christian INTO SUBJECTION to their filthy faggotry.
You know that, and I know that.
It’s just like muslims forcing Christians to honor all their stupid moongod garbage.
Can’t we please stop pretending otherwise?
Libertarians suck worse than the homos.
For the cake thing, the simplest thing in my mind to do is to have a catalog.
And for the wedding cake part of the catalog, you simply do not offer customization: to include cake toppers and names on the cake.
(Same thing, I guess, for the anniversary cake part of the deal as well)
In other words, do product sales only. Period. If it isn’t in the catalog, you don’t do it. Period. No substitutions that aren’t listed in the catalog.
More challenging would be the wedding photographer. What I would do in his/her situation is to draw up non-exclusive agreements allowing him to provide services at select churches. Then he could select the churches where he’ll provide wedding photography. So he has arrangements with Father Smith from St Mary’s Catholic Church, Father Jones from Christ LCMS Church, Brother Carson from First Baptist Church, Pastor Mason from Westminster PCA Church.
So if Bob and Mary come in to schedule photos for their wedding at St Mary’s, no problem. However, when Lloyd and Lance come in to schedule the photographer for St Judas Iscariot Episcopal Church...the photographer can truthfully tell the couple: “Sorry, but I only do wedding work with churches where I have formal written arrangements. I’m afraid I don’t have such an agreement with St Judas. Perhaps I can refer you to a photographer who does. Or if you’re dead set on having me shoot your wedding, perhaps you could talk to Brother Carson over at First Baptist. I’m sure he’d be happy to let you use his church for your affair. Once you bring me appropriate documentation from Brother Carson, I’ll be more than happy to have a consultation with you.”
What about Bob and Mary who are not having their wedding in a church? Where do you fit that in your scenario?
LOL, ah, no, that is definitely not what I said.
I really do hope you're a shill. Otherwise you should sue your college for failing to provide you with even the most rudimentary of reading comprehension skills.
Costco could easily limit its membership to the congregations of specified churches, through an agreement with those churches.
If making a club sounds too complicated, then you’re definitely not cut out to be a small business owner.
I follow the baker's logic. It's CRYSTAL CLEAR. Huzzah for him! He has the guts to follow his faith in the face of sin...against all the P.C. there is. God bless him!
They're out of luck.
‘No the way around it is do like the Jew’s did in the days of the inquisition when Jew’s weren’t permitted to own business and were overcharged at the “lawful” businesses. They created an entire underground economy. One Jew might bake bread and trade it to another Jew who made clothes, then trade the clothes to another Jew who had grain. Thereby circumventing the entire tax structure and economy. Then were so successful that the “lawful” businesses were losing so much business that petitioned to get the laws repealed.’
I like that idea.
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