Posted on 01/02/2014 10:13:07 AM PST by DouglasKC
You’re just dodging.
There is no Christianity outside of Church Christianity.
There must be hundreds that feel exactly the same as you.
Perhaps NOW is the time for YOU to gather them together and start the TRUE church of the Living God.
My wife says I never listen to her, so why should a lady preacher think I’d listen to her?
Perhaps NOW is the time for YOU to gather them together and start the TRUE church of the Living God.
My wife says I never listen to her, so why should a lady preacher think I’d listen to her?
, i am lost.
At any rate she makes a good point.
You’re just dodging.
There is no Christianity outside of Church Christianity.
Trying to treat my fellow man the way Jesus said to do is what i am interested in doing.
What are these elders of the church?
Heb 13: 17 Obey your leaders and submit to their authority. They keep watch over you as men who must give an account. Obey them so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no advantage to you.
Who are these leaders to whom you are to give obedience?
Who are these leaders to whom you are to give obedience?
you are just dodging.
But any way, elders can be just that or they can be bishops or deacons which are leaders of the Church.
That means they are leaders over the members of the congregation.
I am not a member of any congregation.
Because like i said i do not want some one leading me that does not know the difference between tithes and alms.
I also do not want some one leading me that thinks that the Sabbath day can be changed to the first day of the week.
Basically, it is a historical FACT that Jesus claimed to be God. How you deal with that FACT and come to an understanding is your own issue. But it does not have bearing on the historical FACT itself.
“These ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic have figured out how to manipulate and find the “loopholes” in the forum rules so their rude, crude and unChristian behavior is tolerated. But they’re not fooling anyone. A leopard can’t hide his spots.”
***Au contraire, Pierre. The ravenous wolves of Free Republic are those who deny that Jesus is God Himself. And now there appears to be a new breed of wolf who accepts that statement but when push comes to shove, doesn’t really mean it. A LYING, ravenous wolf whom Jesus properly condemns as a false teacher, a viper, a son of satan.
Talk about loopholes — the ravenous wolves Jesus talks about are those who push false teaching, and this vanity article tries to pin the label onto mainstream believing Christian souls who don’t twist scripture in their quest to push heresy.
I think your post pointed out some very good points about the early church. It was very much focused on relationships and how to get along better. Much of Paul's writings and the lessons of Christ were how the church was to be different, to knit and grow together. Love between it's members was to be the identifying mark.
Paul summed it up:
1Co 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
1Co 13:3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
Doctrine is important, but it's purpose is to teach us how to love God and how to love others.
On another thread, you said this “thread wasn’t about me or what I believe.”
***How can you say that about this thread... it’s ALL about your beliefs.
Following the RM’s guidelines on...
Linking to Previous Posts on the Religion Forum:
The objective, on the Religion Forum, of not bringing forward disputes from prior threads is to discourage flame wars spreading, in particular the needling or badgering of other posters by bringing up their past remarks, again and again.
***My intention is not to needle nor to badger but rather to keep that thread as a caucus thread (which it was originally designated) and not pollute it with heresy.
However, if you were to say “I recall your saying something else on an earlier thread”
***I think I want to say something similar to that, but it’s more like “how can you say this thread isn’t about your own beliefs?”
and the poster challenged you “Oh yeah, where?” then you would be obligated to link to the previous thread and I would not pull it.
***Since you never said “oh yeah, where” I am simply hoping everyone will see that I intend to keep the caucus thread a caucus thread and operate in this open thread with this pertinent question.
If you want to argue the previous claim, then go back to the earlier thread,
***The reason I don’t want to do that is that it was a caucus thread.
ping all the interested parties and say something like “Here you say the sky is green. Why?”
***So I ask you, how?
The respondent will be obligated then to explain the green comment in context with that particular thread and parties involved in it.
***Given the fine edge we’re on, I doubt you’ll be obligated.
If however you are seeking to “impeach the witness” by showing he waffles back and forth
***Not my intention. Only trying to keep a caucus thread clean and let this kind of stuff occur on the open thread.
THAT is “making it personal” and I will pull it to avoid a flame war.
***Hopefully, my approach makes sense for you to answer here rather than there.
Lost?
Didn’t you type this at #410:
I have had my own experience with women preachers, i can not say i did not like them.
My fault for referring to it when posting a reply on a different number.
It is as you say.
It IS?
These are not things that concern me, but that doesn't mean there aren't churches out there that cover your concerns. It strikes me that the Messianics might cover at least one of those issues.
Nonetheless, I don't imagine a positive conversation with the Lord over them. "Well, Lord, I blew off the church for which You died over the alms/tithe thingie...."
"Oh, OK. Don't worry about it. I always meant to add a verse about how the tithe/alm thing would louse up the entire plan of redemption."
Are we in this for the long haul??
Only for a year and a half
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