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The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
Today | Douglaskc

Posted on 01/02/2014 10:13:07 AM PST by DouglasKC

The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
How do we deal with the insults and pain of those whom Christ called "ravenous wolves"?

Many aren't aware of it but the phrase "A wolf in sheep’s clothing" has biblical origins.

Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

The word translated "false prophet" here is not referring to a Godly person who has a prophecy that fails. Instead it's referring to a person who pretends to be a Christian but in reality is not. They are compared to "ravenous wolves" among the flock.

These ravenous wolves exist in life. And they exist here in the religious forum of FreeRepublic. They can be a challenge to our faith and to our Christianity. In this article we're going to examine how to identify these wolves in sheep clothing and how to use our shepard, Jesus Christ, to combat them.

How can we know them? Jesus Christ gave us the answer in the very next verse:

Mat 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?

In other words, says Christ, real Christians have a certain, identifiable "fruit". The wolves among the sheep will NOT have these fruits. You can't get grapes from thorns.

Jesus then goes on to make another comparison:

Mat 7:17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.

The word translated "bad" means harmful, or evil. Something that is intended to hurt or destroy. So the hallmark of bad fruit is something that is harmful or destructive to people. "Good" on the other hand is something that is beautiful, beneficial, or worthy.

Mat 7:20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

So the mark of a wolf in sheep’s clothing is whether they bear good fruit, or any. In John 15, Christ gives more detail on this fruit.

John 15:4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
John 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

This fruit is something that Christians have. If someone doesn't have Christ they then won't have this fruit.

The Fruit of the Spirit

But what is this fruit? How can we know whether the fruit is good or bad unless we know what it looks like? Luckily the apostle Paul gives us a good idea of what this fruit looks like in the book of Galatians.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

This fruit, these characteristics, are the natural result of living and abiding in Christ, in having his spirit.
Paul sums them up beautifully in 1 Corinthians:

1Co 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
1Co 13:5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
1Co 13:6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
1Co 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

These characteristics apply across all organizations. Organizations do not have a lock on the spirit of God. If someone exhibits these characteristics on a consistent basis they do have the spirit of God and they are a Christian.

There are many people in various organizations on FreeRepublic that exhibit these traits. Many Catholic, LDS, Protestant and Messianic and other members of FreeRepublic exhibit these traits and thus do have the spirit of God and are Christians.

However there are a very few that rarely if ever exhibit these traits. In fact they exhibit something else....the works of the flesh:

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

These behaviors are not just physical but are also spiritual. They are destructive and harmful to themselves and those they come into contact with.

That should not be surprising because the emanate not jut from the flesh, but are demonic in origin. James highlights these works.

James 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

Note that good behavior and meekness are hallmarks of of wisdom, having the spirit of the Lord. James contrasts that with other behavior.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.
James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.
James 3:16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.

And back to the righteous:

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Animal Behavior

So these are the fruits. The ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic generally act like their namesakes....wolf like.

You've seen them. They'll post derogatory things about others and their faith. The purpose isn't to defend their own faith which often is hidden or not evident. . The purpose is to satisfy their hunger for division, acrimony and blood.

Like animals they seem not to know how to behave civility. They can't address others with whom they disagree without snarling, spitting and insulting. They bare their teeth and pretend that their animal nature is noble and Godly.

They justify their animal nature by pretending that they're just like us. They show us their sheepskin but they can't hide their true nature.

Like a wolf pack there is hierarchy and anyone outside of the pack is instantly set upon if one so much as questions the rules of the pack.

Like a wolf pack they howl, or ping others, when they think they've identified a victim. Peter describes their behavior perfectly:

1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

That's how the ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic operate. They bait. They hunt down. They attack. They devour and all the while pretend that they're one of us.

Christ is the Shepherd

How do we deal with these wolves? These impostors? These fake Christians? After all they seem to have the advantage of aggressiveness, viciousness and have no qualms about personally attacking others.

The answer is that "we" can't do anything. We're sheep. We're weak. We're helpless. We don't have the teeth or claws they do.

But we have something else. Something they don't have. We have Christ as our shepherd protecting and guiding us. They can't harm us if we depend on Christ and stay in the flock.

Really all the wolves can do is sit just outside the flock, snarling, biting and snapping at us. And maybe that's why they're bitter and angry. They realize that they're not real sheep. They envy that the sheep have real faith in their shepherd. They wonder why Christ doesn't accept their disguise as being the real thing.

Now certainly we're not perfect sheep. I'm not. Sometimes we take their bait. It's not easy to see other sheep begin attacked or to be attacked. Sometimes we want to snarl back with our little sheep teeth. But it rarely works because to do that we have to leave the side of Christ.

The best strategy is to let Christ take care of them. They're not fooling very many and they're certainly not fooling Jesus. They're interested only in satisfying their hunger. They don't want to debate. When they pretend they are they're really only dangling bait to draw others out where they will be vulnerable and away from the shepherd.

About such Christ said:

Mat 7:6 "Don't give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls to pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them and then tear you to pieces.

These ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic have figured out how to manipulate and find the "loopholes" in the forum rules so their rude, crude and unChristian behavior is tolerated. But they're not fooling anyone. A leopard can't hide his spots.

Ultimately they are to be pitied. Clearly they've had experiences in their lives where they've been hurt deeply. They've been betrayed. They've been picked on. They've been abused. So not knowing Christ they do the same to others. They behave like animals as all Christians did before becoming Christians.

But they don't have to. One day God will open up their eyes. He will show them that they are only pretending to be sheep and they will realize their animal nature and be ashamed. And then Christ will show them HOW to become sheep.

Our prayers should be that they will change. That they will bear fruit worthy of repentance. And we should examine ourselves and our attitudes toward them and others. To pray that God gives us the wisdom, kindness and gentleness to deal with those who would use us and spitefully accuse us.

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.'
Mat 5:44 But I tell you this: Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you.
Mat 5:45 In this way you show that you are children of your Father in heaven.

This should be our goal. To let the light of our Father shine through and to glorify him. A tall order to be sure but the only way to stand up to the wolves.


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To: Anton.Rutter
Really?

Wow.

402 posted on 01/03/2014 5:17:51 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ravenwolf

Ask away.

You really weren’t looking for guidance on which church to choose to attend. You already had a pretty complete idea what you were looking for.


403 posted on 01/03/2014 5:25:55 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: DouglasKC
Yeah, Poindexter. Really.


404 posted on 01/03/2014 5:33:55 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Anton.Rutter

You win. Congratulations on your success.


405 posted on 01/03/2014 5:54:21 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

We all win.

Just not you. ;)


406 posted on 01/03/2014 6:11:36 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: chae

But my issue was that people weren’t saying “She’s a Mormon” it was all “She’s a skank, she’s a slut” things of that nature.

HMMMmmm...

https://www.google.com/search?q=katy+perryt+skank&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475


407 posted on 01/03/2014 6:53:08 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CityCenter

See above


408 posted on 01/03/2014 6:54:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Good to see you FRiend.


409 posted on 01/03/2014 7:59:50 AM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Elsie
<<>> We agree on the Sabbath. <<>> Give, pay or what ever, i would expect the Church i attend to know the difference between tithing and alms. <<>> So you think maybe that Paul may have been teaching his own doctrine and it may or may not have anything to do with the gospel? I have had my own experience with women preachers, i can not say i did not like them. <<>> A deserted island? no women to serve ? no thanks. <<>> Ok, no argument there.
410 posted on 01/03/2014 8:36:24 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: CityCenter

I have seen first hand a lot of very ugly commentary and name calling regarding public figures, political enemies, etc.

...I often have the same thought, and have wondered why the adjectives for political opposition doesn’t stop, say, at three hundred or so...would make for better dialogue...

A recent thread about Katy Perry went south after only 1-2 comments.

...if it centered around her latest tune (some ditty referring to a tiger’s eye, I believe) I must admit that it would have gone south far faster had I been involved...I acknowledge we should all try and say something nice, but there are just some things...


411 posted on 01/03/2014 9:12:59 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: ravenwolf
So you think maybe that Paul may have been teaching his own doctrine and it may or may not have anything to do with the gospel?

I ain't gonna mindread Paul; but it appears to ME that HIS words are pretty clear.

I agree about the women preachers. Although now that I think about it; it may have been because they were women and NOT what or how they were preaching.

(Oh no; Now I've aggravated our Christian ladies of FR!)

412 posted on 01/03/2014 9:15:14 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: xzins

You really weren’t looking for guidance on which church to choose to attend. You already had a pretty complete idea what you were looking for.


Yes, that is just my way of explaining why i do not attend Church.

According to acts the early Church members were servants in the work of preaching the gospel.

Acts 4 31 through 37 shows where the early Church started.

Acts 5:i through 13 shows the seriousness of becoming a member of the Church.

v 13
And of the rest durst no man join himself to them: but the people magnified them.

So did all of the believers become members of the Church? i do not think so.

V 14
And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women.)

Any one can be a believer but being a member of the Church is another thing entirely, they are a servant of the Church, and if they can not completely give their life to the Church they should not be a member of the Church.

1 Tim 5 1 through 8 describes how the Church should treat people in general.

Verses 9 through 16 show some requirements of being or not being an actual member of the Church.

A widow under 60 years old who was also qualified in other ways.

A younger woman and with out those certain qualifications would spend her time being a busybody or looking for a man.

A man or woman who had widows to care for, mothers, aunts or etc was expected to care for their own rather than becoming a member of the Church and giving the care of them to the Church.

These people who had such responsibilities should work to take care of their own rather than becoming a member of the Church so that the Church would take care of them.

These kind of things are what defiles the church.

I sure don,t want to be one who takes part in that.


413 posted on 01/03/2014 9:25:35 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: ravenwolf

Your choice can’t be no church.

We already went over it being Jesus’ church.

I can’t help it if nothing aligns with your standards, but your standard is suggesting that the “gates of hell did prevail against it” when Jesus said the “gates of hell will not prevail against it.”


414 posted on 01/03/2014 9:36:24 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
....”they use a lot of Christian terminology”....

As with most false religions and cults...otherwise they would not get an audience to hear their dribble. Christian terminology is always the "Hook" the enemy of men's souls uses to deceive and entrap people, especially those who have limited familiarity with scripture and those new to the faith...... The words have generally been heard along the way but not yet personal or understood. So as soon as an individual is "ready" to understand you can be certain the enemy will be waiting to bounce!/p>

415 posted on 01/03/2014 9:47:10 AM PST by caww
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To: NELSON111

416 posted on 01/03/2014 10:56:09 AM PST by caww
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To: xzins
<<>> I don,t really know what you are talking about. Jesus said that the kingdom of God is within you. What do you believe the kingdom is? What do you believe the Church is ? Jesus said where two or three are gathered in my name there i am also, we are in Church right now. I am in Church every day somewhere or another, although not always in the form of Bible study, i am just not a member of any particular Church. Does it have to be in a building with Church written on it? That is why i ask what Church i should join, if i joined the Mormon Church i would be bound for hell according to many. If i joined the Catholic Church i also would be bound for hell according to many and the same thing would be said by many about any denomination i joined. I like to travel but that is the one place i want to stay away from. I have only found one or two Churches that are governed any thing like the early Church, and like i said there is not one within 500 miles. If there was one close by i would be there but would not become a member. But should i try to explain the reason i will not be a member? no because they did not explain it to me but i believe the Holy spirit did. I will not mention the name of the Church because they do not get involved in this sort of Bible study so i am not going to involve them.
417 posted on 01/03/2014 11:58:14 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Elsie
168. Disregard all rules after Rule 1.
418 posted on 01/03/2014 12:22:01 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Elsie

(Oh no; Now I’ve aggravated our Christian ladies of FR!)


We have to face up to it, we will make some body madder than a wet hen if we say even half of what we think.

And they make me just as mad at times.

But honestly, i believe every one has a pretty good point in what they are saying, depending on how well they know scripture.

But it is very hard for people to agree when they are looking at it from two different angles or premises, their minds may be hundreds of miles apart.

If we read a story about some one in a swamp surrounded by alligators we could argue all day about if he was cleaning the swamp or hunting alligators.

I will say he was hunting alligators, ha ha.


419 posted on 01/03/2014 12:27:09 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: Gamecock

Now THIS IS POWERFUL from St Paul!

Gal 5:12

NLT
I just wish that those troublemakers who want to mutilate you by circumcision would mutilate themselves.

NIV
As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

ESV
I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!


420 posted on 01/03/2014 12:52:55 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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