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The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
Today | Douglaskc

Posted on 01/02/2014 10:13:07 AM PST by DouglasKC

The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
How do we deal with the insults and pain of those whom Christ called "ravenous wolves"?

Many aren't aware of it but the phrase "A wolf in sheep’s clothing" has biblical origins.

Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

The word translated "false prophet" here is not referring to a Godly person who has a prophecy that fails. Instead it's referring to a person who pretends to be a Christian but in reality is not. They are compared to "ravenous wolves" among the flock.

These ravenous wolves exist in life. And they exist here in the religious forum of FreeRepublic. They can be a challenge to our faith and to our Christianity. In this article we're going to examine how to identify these wolves in sheep clothing and how to use our shepard, Jesus Christ, to combat them.

How can we know them? Jesus Christ gave us the answer in the very next verse:

Mat 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?

In other words, says Christ, real Christians have a certain, identifiable "fruit". The wolves among the sheep will NOT have these fruits. You can't get grapes from thorns.

Jesus then goes on to make another comparison:

Mat 7:17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.

The word translated "bad" means harmful, or evil. Something that is intended to hurt or destroy. So the hallmark of bad fruit is something that is harmful or destructive to people. "Good" on the other hand is something that is beautiful, beneficial, or worthy.

Mat 7:20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

So the mark of a wolf in sheep’s clothing is whether they bear good fruit, or any. In John 15, Christ gives more detail on this fruit.

John 15:4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
John 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

This fruit is something that Christians have. If someone doesn't have Christ they then won't have this fruit.

The Fruit of the Spirit

But what is this fruit? How can we know whether the fruit is good or bad unless we know what it looks like? Luckily the apostle Paul gives us a good idea of what this fruit looks like in the book of Galatians.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

This fruit, these characteristics, are the natural result of living and abiding in Christ, in having his spirit.
Paul sums them up beautifully in 1 Corinthians:

1Co 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
1Co 13:5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
1Co 13:6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
1Co 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

These characteristics apply across all organizations. Organizations do not have a lock on the spirit of God. If someone exhibits these characteristics on a consistent basis they do have the spirit of God and they are a Christian.

There are many people in various organizations on FreeRepublic that exhibit these traits. Many Catholic, LDS, Protestant and Messianic and other members of FreeRepublic exhibit these traits and thus do have the spirit of God and are Christians.

However there are a very few that rarely if ever exhibit these traits. In fact they exhibit something else....the works of the flesh:

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

These behaviors are not just physical but are also spiritual. They are destructive and harmful to themselves and those they come into contact with.

That should not be surprising because the emanate not jut from the flesh, but are demonic in origin. James highlights these works.

James 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

Note that good behavior and meekness are hallmarks of of wisdom, having the spirit of the Lord. James contrasts that with other behavior.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.
James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.
James 3:16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.

And back to the righteous:

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Animal Behavior

So these are the fruits. The ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic generally act like their namesakes....wolf like.

You've seen them. They'll post derogatory things about others and their faith. The purpose isn't to defend their own faith which often is hidden or not evident. . The purpose is to satisfy their hunger for division, acrimony and blood.

Like animals they seem not to know how to behave civility. They can't address others with whom they disagree without snarling, spitting and insulting. They bare their teeth and pretend that their animal nature is noble and Godly.

They justify their animal nature by pretending that they're just like us. They show us their sheepskin but they can't hide their true nature.

Like a wolf pack there is hierarchy and anyone outside of the pack is instantly set upon if one so much as questions the rules of the pack.

Like a wolf pack they howl, or ping others, when they think they've identified a victim. Peter describes their behavior perfectly:

1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

That's how the ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic operate. They bait. They hunt down. They attack. They devour and all the while pretend that they're one of us.

Christ is the Shepherd

How do we deal with these wolves? These impostors? These fake Christians? After all they seem to have the advantage of aggressiveness, viciousness and have no qualms about personally attacking others.

The answer is that "we" can't do anything. We're sheep. We're weak. We're helpless. We don't have the teeth or claws they do.

But we have something else. Something they don't have. We have Christ as our shepherd protecting and guiding us. They can't harm us if we depend on Christ and stay in the flock.

Really all the wolves can do is sit just outside the flock, snarling, biting and snapping at us. And maybe that's why they're bitter and angry. They realize that they're not real sheep. They envy that the sheep have real faith in their shepherd. They wonder why Christ doesn't accept their disguise as being the real thing.

Now certainly we're not perfect sheep. I'm not. Sometimes we take their bait. It's not easy to see other sheep begin attacked or to be attacked. Sometimes we want to snarl back with our little sheep teeth. But it rarely works because to do that we have to leave the side of Christ.

The best strategy is to let Christ take care of them. They're not fooling very many and they're certainly not fooling Jesus. They're interested only in satisfying their hunger. They don't want to debate. When they pretend they are they're really only dangling bait to draw others out where they will be vulnerable and away from the shepherd.

About such Christ said:

Mat 7:6 "Don't give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls to pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them and then tear you to pieces.

These ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic have figured out how to manipulate and find the "loopholes" in the forum rules so their rude, crude and unChristian behavior is tolerated. But they're not fooling anyone. A leopard can't hide his spots.

Ultimately they are to be pitied. Clearly they've had experiences in their lives where they've been hurt deeply. They've been betrayed. They've been picked on. They've been abused. So not knowing Christ they do the same to others. They behave like animals as all Christians did before becoming Christians.

But they don't have to. One day God will open up their eyes. He will show them that they are only pretending to be sheep and they will realize their animal nature and be ashamed. And then Christ will show them HOW to become sheep.

Our prayers should be that they will change. That they will bear fruit worthy of repentance. And we should examine ourselves and our attitudes toward them and others. To pray that God gives us the wisdom, kindness and gentleness to deal with those who would use us and spitefully accuse us.

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.'
Mat 5:44 But I tell you this: Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you.
Mat 5:45 In this way you show that you are children of your Father in heaven.

This should be our goal. To let the light of our Father shine through and to glorify him. A tall order to be sure but the only way to stand up to the wolves.


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To: woofie

It would appear that the ravenous wolf is the author of this vanity article himself.


361 posted on 01/02/2014 8:38:47 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
>> How would you even know my understanding? You don’t.

Do you normally respond to posts you don't understand?

Since you're so concerned about maligning FReepers, you can ping me next time you refer to me insultingly (#234,) and you can also refrain from exploiting Catholic skirts.

As far as "my Catholicism" is concerned, I am primarily Christian. Labeling me a heretic, a relativist has no bearing on my Faith in Christ. As you so eloquently put it:

    "How would you even know my understanding? You don’t."

362 posted on 01/02/2014 8:45:03 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kevmo

That happens


363 posted on 01/02/2014 8:48:32 PM PST by woofie
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To: Gene Eric

Do you normally respond to posts you don’t understand?
***It would appear that I’m not the only one. But you’re the one engaged in mind reading.

Since you’re so concerned about maligning FReepers, you can ping me next time you refer to me insultingly (#234,) and you can also refrain from exploiting Catholic skirts.
***No thanks. But you might not want to hide behind Catholic skirts in the future.

As far as “my Catholicism” is concerned, I am primarily Christian. Labeling me a
***I labelled you a catholic, which is the label you chose for YOURSELF.

heretic, a relativist has no bearing on my Faith in Christ.
***Someone else gave you that relativist tag. Take it up with him.


364 posted on 01/02/2014 8:50:46 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo; Gene Eric

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


365 posted on 01/02/2014 8:55:22 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Gene Eric

Labeling me a heretic,
***Uhh... where did I label you a heretic? Are you promoting the heresy that Jesus is not God Himself?


366 posted on 01/02/2014 8:56:40 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Religion Moderator

Pardon me, RM, but on your home page

Forms of “making it personal” include mind reading, attributing motive,

The other freeper commented on “my understanding”, it is a form of mind reading and I was calling him on it.

Similarly on your home page

If the other guy in the dispute was given a warning, consider yourself warned as well.

He engaged in mindreading behavior and I did not. Your warning should properly be addressed to him alone. I did not break the rules posted on your home page.


367 posted on 01/02/2014 9:00:36 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

>> But you’re the one engaged in mind reading.

Where?

>> But you might not want to hide behind Catholic skirts.

Where?

>> Someone else gave you that relativist tag. Take it up with him.

kevmo @ #234: “No doubt he will feel the relativistic need to assert relativism over catholicism”


368 posted on 01/02/2014 9:07:13 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Religion Moderator

Noticed your request after my last post.

Apologies. I’m out of here.


369 posted on 01/02/2014 9:08:08 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kevmo
It doesn't matter who started it, when the thread direction is "about" individual Freepers it is also "making it personal" - i.e. not about the message but the messenger.

When someone is reading your mind, attributing motives to you, etc. on an RF thread - it is best to let me know by Freepmail rather than calling him on it on-thread.

370 posted on 01/02/2014 9:12:18 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

When someone is reading your mind, attributing motives to you, etc. on an RF thread - it is best to let me know by Freepmail rather than calling him on it on-thread.
***Very well. I’ll freepmail you.


371 posted on 01/02/2014 9:15:41 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Gene Eric

“These ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic have figured out how to manipulate and find the “loopholes” in the forum rules so their rude, crude and unChristian behavior is tolerated. But they’re not fooling anyone. A leopard can’t hide his spots.”


375 posted on 01/02/2014 9:41:58 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: ravenwolf; All

Hey, I caught one right here...A wolf disguised as a raven...Does that count???


376 posted on 01/02/2014 10:06:22 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; DouglasKC

They are an adamant, anti-Trinitarian religious cult, with many beliefs borrowed from the LDS, JWs and SDA. So when Douglas says he is “telling you the truth,” he’s leaving out a whole lot of details that puts him outside of Christianity.
***Then we’ll let him defend this heresy out in the open, if he’s willing to follow the rules of the Religion Forum.


377 posted on 01/02/2014 10:24:54 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: All

(Why is this article so “divisive”?; can’t we all just “get along?”; Why the name-calling? I thought FREEPERs all shared conservative values? So why are some FREEPERs going after other FREEPERs? Aren’t there more obvious “targets” “out there”? Ya know, like Muslim terrorists; jihadists; Obamaites; Dems & other liberals; etc. Did I get a good sampling of all the routine questions?)


378 posted on 01/02/2014 10:30:44 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: All

Btt...


379 posted on 01/02/2014 10:36:48 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: xzins; annalex; Elsie; narses

I counsel Christians to unite with a church in their own community.


I have a little problem there , if i go to Church there are a few things i want to know about the Church, so i have to ask a few questions, below are some examples.

1. Does your Church teach that the sabbath was changed from the seventh day of the week to the first day?

2. Does it believe it has the authority to collect tithes?

3. Does it believe in infant baptism?

4. Does it believe that women should preach?

5. Does it believe that widows under three score years of age should be a member of the Church?

6. Does it believe that a man who has a mother or an aunt to care for should be a member of the church?

7. Does it believe a man who is committing adultery with his step mother should be in the Church?

8. Does it understand why Jesus said to go out and buy swords but then said two is enough?

10. Does it believe Jesus literally sweat blood?

11. Does it believe that people are going to be lifted up and go to heaven with out dieing?

12. Does it know for certain the one called lucifer is satan? sorry no capitals there.

13. Does it know for certain the first resurrection has not already taken place?

14. Do they know the difference between the letters of the apostles from the Gospel of Jesus?

A few of the questions above i can accept even though i might not agree, others require plain scripture.

Just a part of the list but should give you a pretty good idea of why i do not go to Church and why i am not missed.

I do respect the Church as there are some that i get along just fine with but none within 500 miles.

I stay away for their sake as well as my own, mostly good people.


380 posted on 01/02/2014 10:48:35 PM PST by ravenwolf
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