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The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
Today | Douglaskc

Posted on 01/02/2014 10:13:07 AM PST by DouglasKC

The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
How do we deal with the insults and pain of those whom Christ called "ravenous wolves"?

Many aren't aware of it but the phrase "A wolf in sheep’s clothing" has biblical origins.

Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

The word translated "false prophet" here is not referring to a Godly person who has a prophecy that fails. Instead it's referring to a person who pretends to be a Christian but in reality is not. They are compared to "ravenous wolves" among the flock.

These ravenous wolves exist in life. And they exist here in the religious forum of FreeRepublic. They can be a challenge to our faith and to our Christianity. In this article we're going to examine how to identify these wolves in sheep clothing and how to use our shepard, Jesus Christ, to combat them.

How can we know them? Jesus Christ gave us the answer in the very next verse:

Mat 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?

In other words, says Christ, real Christians have a certain, identifiable "fruit". The wolves among the sheep will NOT have these fruits. You can't get grapes from thorns.

Jesus then goes on to make another comparison:

Mat 7:17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.

The word translated "bad" means harmful, or evil. Something that is intended to hurt or destroy. So the hallmark of bad fruit is something that is harmful or destructive to people. "Good" on the other hand is something that is beautiful, beneficial, or worthy.

Mat 7:20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

So the mark of a wolf in sheep’s clothing is whether they bear good fruit, or any. In John 15, Christ gives more detail on this fruit.

John 15:4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
John 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

This fruit is something that Christians have. If someone doesn't have Christ they then won't have this fruit.

The Fruit of the Spirit

But what is this fruit? How can we know whether the fruit is good or bad unless we know what it looks like? Luckily the apostle Paul gives us a good idea of what this fruit looks like in the book of Galatians.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

This fruit, these characteristics, are the natural result of living and abiding in Christ, in having his spirit.
Paul sums them up beautifully in 1 Corinthians:

1Co 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
1Co 13:5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
1Co 13:6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
1Co 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

These characteristics apply across all organizations. Organizations do not have a lock on the spirit of God. If someone exhibits these characteristics on a consistent basis they do have the spirit of God and they are a Christian.

There are many people in various organizations on FreeRepublic that exhibit these traits. Many Catholic, LDS, Protestant and Messianic and other members of FreeRepublic exhibit these traits and thus do have the spirit of God and are Christians.

However there are a very few that rarely if ever exhibit these traits. In fact they exhibit something else....the works of the flesh:

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

These behaviors are not just physical but are also spiritual. They are destructive and harmful to themselves and those they come into contact with.

That should not be surprising because the emanate not jut from the flesh, but are demonic in origin. James highlights these works.

James 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

Note that good behavior and meekness are hallmarks of of wisdom, having the spirit of the Lord. James contrasts that with other behavior.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.
James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.
James 3:16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.

And back to the righteous:

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Animal Behavior

So these are the fruits. The ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic generally act like their namesakes....wolf like.

You've seen them. They'll post derogatory things about others and their faith. The purpose isn't to defend their own faith which often is hidden or not evident. . The purpose is to satisfy their hunger for division, acrimony and blood.

Like animals they seem not to know how to behave civility. They can't address others with whom they disagree without snarling, spitting and insulting. They bare their teeth and pretend that their animal nature is noble and Godly.

They justify their animal nature by pretending that they're just like us. They show us their sheepskin but they can't hide their true nature.

Like a wolf pack there is hierarchy and anyone outside of the pack is instantly set upon if one so much as questions the rules of the pack.

Like a wolf pack they howl, or ping others, when they think they've identified a victim. Peter describes their behavior perfectly:

1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

That's how the ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic operate. They bait. They hunt down. They attack. They devour and all the while pretend that they're one of us.

Christ is the Shepherd

How do we deal with these wolves? These impostors? These fake Christians? After all they seem to have the advantage of aggressiveness, viciousness and have no qualms about personally attacking others.

The answer is that "we" can't do anything. We're sheep. We're weak. We're helpless. We don't have the teeth or claws they do.

But we have something else. Something they don't have. We have Christ as our shepherd protecting and guiding us. They can't harm us if we depend on Christ and stay in the flock.

Really all the wolves can do is sit just outside the flock, snarling, biting and snapping at us. And maybe that's why they're bitter and angry. They realize that they're not real sheep. They envy that the sheep have real faith in their shepherd. They wonder why Christ doesn't accept their disguise as being the real thing.

Now certainly we're not perfect sheep. I'm not. Sometimes we take their bait. It's not easy to see other sheep begin attacked or to be attacked. Sometimes we want to snarl back with our little sheep teeth. But it rarely works because to do that we have to leave the side of Christ.

The best strategy is to let Christ take care of them. They're not fooling very many and they're certainly not fooling Jesus. They're interested only in satisfying their hunger. They don't want to debate. When they pretend they are they're really only dangling bait to draw others out where they will be vulnerable and away from the shepherd.

About such Christ said:

Mat 7:6 "Don't give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls to pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them and then tear you to pieces.

These ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic have figured out how to manipulate and find the "loopholes" in the forum rules so their rude, crude and unChristian behavior is tolerated. But they're not fooling anyone. A leopard can't hide his spots.

Ultimately they are to be pitied. Clearly they've had experiences in their lives where they've been hurt deeply. They've been betrayed. They've been picked on. They've been abused. So not knowing Christ they do the same to others. They behave like animals as all Christians did before becoming Christians.

But they don't have to. One day God will open up their eyes. He will show them that they are only pretending to be sheep and they will realize their animal nature and be ashamed. And then Christ will show them HOW to become sheep.

Our prayers should be that they will change. That they will bear fruit worthy of repentance. And we should examine ourselves and our attitudes toward them and others. To pray that God gives us the wisdom, kindness and gentleness to deal with those who would use us and spitefully accuse us.

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.'
Mat 5:44 But I tell you this: Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you.
Mat 5:45 In this way you show that you are children of your Father in heaven.

This should be our goal. To let the light of our Father shine through and to glorify him. A tall order to be sure but the only way to stand up to the wolves.


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To: Vigilanteman
...which is why the Catholic Church is on my short list of organized religions which might be the church which Jesus Christ organized.

I guess you don't go along with the LDS view that the RCC is one of the Whores of Babylon then?

321 posted on 01/02/2014 7:37:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vigilanteman
I guess you don't go along with the LDS view that...

I love the smell of apostasy in the morning!

322 posted on 01/02/2014 7:38:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; DouglasKC

To: Kevmo
I would say the scripture clearly teaches that Jesus is and was God himself. ....

221 posted on Thu 02 Jan 2014 06:21:01 PM PST by DouglasKC

Douglas clearly says that Jesus is God Himself and that Jesus was God Himself.

When GPH says
To be more accurate, Douglas DOES believe Jesus is a god...
***I just need to be sure that we’re not putting words in DKC’s mouth. Douglas said that Jesus is God Himself. Such words would qualify as a heresy in your average anti-trinitarian cult, so let’s hear from DouglasKc before I condemn him the way Christ condemns false teachers as ‘sons of satan’.

So, DouglasKC... is Jesus God (Jehovah) Himself?


323 posted on 01/02/2014 7:38:53 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: count-your-change

Please clarify


324 posted on 01/02/2014 7:39:30 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Vigilanteman; Kevmo; Elsie; All
And said comments were directed not at the Samaritans, Gentiles or others which might be considered unorthodox or even cultist in today’s popular fundy forums, but at the corrupt mainstream religious leaders, including those self-appointed, who wished to define the Gospel under their own narrow and egotistical terms.

Jesus still told the woman at the well:

22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews (John 4:22)

So was Jesus, too, "narrow and egotistical" over His insistence of worshiping the 'Knowable' God?

Vigilanteman:

...including those self-appointed, who wished to define the Gospel under their own narrow and egotistical terms.

Well, excuse the apostle Paul for being so clear, absolute, and passionate about pre-empting a willy-nilly, relativistic, and open-ended definition of 'the gospel':

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!" (Galatians 1:6-9)

325 posted on 01/02/2014 7:39:55 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Elsie

Sounds like a financial commitment.


326 posted on 01/02/2014 7:39:55 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Salvation
Do you?

Uh...

Don't you read these threads?

327 posted on 01/02/2014 7:40:31 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock

Some people sensitivities are oh so genteel; doncha know.


328 posted on 01/02/2014 7:41:28 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CityCenter

If you DON’T; wouldn’t it be prudent to find out first; before judging people who CALL her those things were wrong in their assessment?


329 posted on 01/02/2014 7:43:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation; Elsie
We just take a lot of guff because of our beliefs. Do you?

Nah. Other than being told we are not Christians on a daily basis by FRoman Catholics......

330 posted on 01/02/2014 7:43:33 PM PST by Gamecock (Celebrating 20,000 posts of dubious quality.)
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To: Religion Moderator

But they like the smells wafting in from the kitchen!


331 posted on 01/02/2014 7:44:29 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

>> False teaching is STILL false teaching and MUST be dealt with - not ignore.

I have no problem with critical points of view concerning the perceived failures one might see in other denominations. It’s beneficial when done in good faith.


332 posted on 01/02/2014 7:45:07 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Growing up as a little pervert will seer certain things into your brain!


333 posted on 01/02/2014 7:45:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo; DouglasKC; All

“So, DouglasKC... is Jesus God (Jehovah) Himself?”


Again, be careful with this, because he will answer “yes,” but he won’t mean what we mean. He does not mean “Yes, Jesus is the second member of the Trinity,” he means “Jesus is one of many potential God entities, who are ‘one’ God by being in a covenant with each other, but not because they are a Trinity.”

The question isn’t a matter of “Do you believe Jesus is God?” It’s a matter of “Do you believe that you will become a God by joining the God Family?”


334 posted on 01/02/2014 7:45:40 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: count-your-change

never mind...


335 posted on 01/02/2014 7:45:55 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

The windows are open.


336 posted on 01/02/2014 7:46:12 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: MHGinTN
I keel you!
337 posted on 01/02/2014 7:46:27 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock

That’s why there is, apparently, no gentlemen here!


338 posted on 01/02/2014 7:47:36 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; DouglasKC

In short, the God family alone is God...the true God means the one God family to which others will yet be added.”
***Polytheism. Heresy. What do you have to say, DouglasKC? Does not Christ properly condemn heretics of His day as ‘sons of satan’, and so do I in following Him?


339 posted on 01/02/2014 7:48:46 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo
***I just need to be sure that we’re not putting words in DKC’s mouth. Douglas said that Jesus is God Himself. Such words would qualify as a heresy in your average anti-trinitarian cult, so let’s hear from DouglasKc before I condemn him the way Christ condemns false teachers as ‘sons of satan’.
So, DouglasKC... is Jesus God (Jehovah) Himself?

Of course he is. Do you believe that too?

340 posted on 01/02/2014 7:49:56 PM PST by DouglasKC
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