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The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
Today | Douglaskc

Posted on 01/02/2014 10:13:07 AM PST by DouglasKC

The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
How do we deal with the insults and pain of those whom Christ called "ravenous wolves"?

Many aren't aware of it but the phrase "A wolf in sheep’s clothing" has biblical origins.

Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

The word translated "false prophet" here is not referring to a Godly person who has a prophecy that fails. Instead it's referring to a person who pretends to be a Christian but in reality is not. They are compared to "ravenous wolves" among the flock.

These ravenous wolves exist in life. And they exist here in the religious forum of FreeRepublic. They can be a challenge to our faith and to our Christianity. In this article we're going to examine how to identify these wolves in sheep clothing and how to use our shepard, Jesus Christ, to combat them.

How can we know them? Jesus Christ gave us the answer in the very next verse:

Mat 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?

In other words, says Christ, real Christians have a certain, identifiable "fruit". The wolves among the sheep will NOT have these fruits. You can't get grapes from thorns.

Jesus then goes on to make another comparison:

Mat 7:17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.

The word translated "bad" means harmful, or evil. Something that is intended to hurt or destroy. So the hallmark of bad fruit is something that is harmful or destructive to people. "Good" on the other hand is something that is beautiful, beneficial, or worthy.

Mat 7:20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

So the mark of a wolf in sheep’s clothing is whether they bear good fruit, or any. In John 15, Christ gives more detail on this fruit.

John 15:4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
John 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

This fruit is something that Christians have. If someone doesn't have Christ they then won't have this fruit.

The Fruit of the Spirit

But what is this fruit? How can we know whether the fruit is good or bad unless we know what it looks like? Luckily the apostle Paul gives us a good idea of what this fruit looks like in the book of Galatians.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

This fruit, these characteristics, are the natural result of living and abiding in Christ, in having his spirit.
Paul sums them up beautifully in 1 Corinthians:

1Co 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
1Co 13:5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
1Co 13:6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
1Co 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

These characteristics apply across all organizations. Organizations do not have a lock on the spirit of God. If someone exhibits these characteristics on a consistent basis they do have the spirit of God and they are a Christian.

There are many people in various organizations on FreeRepublic that exhibit these traits. Many Catholic, LDS, Protestant and Messianic and other members of FreeRepublic exhibit these traits and thus do have the spirit of God and are Christians.

However there are a very few that rarely if ever exhibit these traits. In fact they exhibit something else....the works of the flesh:

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

These behaviors are not just physical but are also spiritual. They are destructive and harmful to themselves and those they come into contact with.

That should not be surprising because the emanate not jut from the flesh, but are demonic in origin. James highlights these works.

James 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

Note that good behavior and meekness are hallmarks of of wisdom, having the spirit of the Lord. James contrasts that with other behavior.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.
James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.
James 3:16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.

And back to the righteous:

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Animal Behavior

So these are the fruits. The ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic generally act like their namesakes....wolf like.

You've seen them. They'll post derogatory things about others and their faith. The purpose isn't to defend their own faith which often is hidden or not evident. . The purpose is to satisfy their hunger for division, acrimony and blood.

Like animals they seem not to know how to behave civility. They can't address others with whom they disagree without snarling, spitting and insulting. They bare their teeth and pretend that their animal nature is noble and Godly.

They justify their animal nature by pretending that they're just like us. They show us their sheepskin but they can't hide their true nature.

Like a wolf pack there is hierarchy and anyone outside of the pack is instantly set upon if one so much as questions the rules of the pack.

Like a wolf pack they howl, or ping others, when they think they've identified a victim. Peter describes their behavior perfectly:

1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

That's how the ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic operate. They bait. They hunt down. They attack. They devour and all the while pretend that they're one of us.

Christ is the Shepherd

How do we deal with these wolves? These impostors? These fake Christians? After all they seem to have the advantage of aggressiveness, viciousness and have no qualms about personally attacking others.

The answer is that "we" can't do anything. We're sheep. We're weak. We're helpless. We don't have the teeth or claws they do.

But we have something else. Something they don't have. We have Christ as our shepherd protecting and guiding us. They can't harm us if we depend on Christ and stay in the flock.

Really all the wolves can do is sit just outside the flock, snarling, biting and snapping at us. And maybe that's why they're bitter and angry. They realize that they're not real sheep. They envy that the sheep have real faith in their shepherd. They wonder why Christ doesn't accept their disguise as being the real thing.

Now certainly we're not perfect sheep. I'm not. Sometimes we take their bait. It's not easy to see other sheep begin attacked or to be attacked. Sometimes we want to snarl back with our little sheep teeth. But it rarely works because to do that we have to leave the side of Christ.

The best strategy is to let Christ take care of them. They're not fooling very many and they're certainly not fooling Jesus. They're interested only in satisfying their hunger. They don't want to debate. When they pretend they are they're really only dangling bait to draw others out where they will be vulnerable and away from the shepherd.

About such Christ said:

Mat 7:6 "Don't give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls to pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them and then tear you to pieces.

These ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic have figured out how to manipulate and find the "loopholes" in the forum rules so their rude, crude and unChristian behavior is tolerated. But they're not fooling anyone. A leopard can't hide his spots.

Ultimately they are to be pitied. Clearly they've had experiences in their lives where they've been hurt deeply. They've been betrayed. They've been picked on. They've been abused. So not knowing Christ they do the same to others. They behave like animals as all Christians did before becoming Christians.

But they don't have to. One day God will open up their eyes. He will show them that they are only pretending to be sheep and they will realize their animal nature and be ashamed. And then Christ will show them HOW to become sheep.

Our prayers should be that they will change. That they will bear fruit worthy of repentance. And we should examine ourselves and our attitudes toward them and others. To pray that God gives us the wisdom, kindness and gentleness to deal with those who would use us and spitefully accuse us.

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.'
Mat 5:44 But I tell you this: Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you.
Mat 5:45 In this way you show that you are children of your Father in heaven.

This should be our goal. To let the light of our Father shine through and to glorify him. A tall order to be sure but the only way to stand up to the wolves.


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To: Colofornian

Internal motive-judging
***From the Religion Moderator’s home page

Forms of “making it personal” include mind reading, attributing motive

http://www.freerepublic.com/~religionmoderator/

It would appear that this entire thread started out as a “making it personal” vanity. It’s probably doomed. Perhaps the best we can hope for is that it will be locked rather than pulled.


201 posted on 01/02/2014 5:48:48 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Jim Robinson

....”FR is about truth. It’s our mission. Wouldn’t have it any other way”......

‘Truth’....

When the debate is silenced Truth is suppressed.


202 posted on 01/02/2014 5:50:03 PM PST by caww
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To: Vigilanteman; Gene Eric; All

“Their lame excuses about challenging what they consider heresies is merely that— lame excuses for aberrant behavior. One can disagree without being disagreeable.”


Notice though that your bigotry is entirely circular.

1) You said that it is wrong for us to declare that something is a heresy, and argued that a Mormon, who is “righteous,” can get into heaven regardless of what they believe. That’s a direct contradiction of the scripture.

2) But now you say that the concept of “heresy” is merely a smoke screen for being “disagreeable” or ugly.

3) But we are “disagreeable” or ugly because we believe that there are heresies.

Do you see the circular nature of your bigotry here?


203 posted on 01/02/2014 5:51:39 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: MHGinTN

bump


204 posted on 01/02/2014 5:51:49 PM PST by caww
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To: Vigilanteman

One can disagree without being disagreeable. One need only look at the example of Jesus Christ himself
***Oh, I totally agree.

Jesus had VERY harsh words for false teachers of His day.

Matthew 23:33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

John8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires.

Those who push the heresy that Jesus is not God Himself onto Free Republic would have us speak in soft and fluffy tones when even Jesus didn’t do so. They uphold a standard for FReepers that’s even higher than the standard that God Himself held.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3069049/posts?page=2727#2727


205 posted on 01/02/2014 5:52:04 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

>> Let’s hear your definition

A foolish request given your understanding of my post.


206 posted on 01/02/2014 5:55:47 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Kevmo

btt...


207 posted on 01/02/2014 5:55:58 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: caww

The truth is the truth and has been true for thousands of years. Modern day self-proclaimed prophets cannot change it.


208 posted on 01/02/2014 5:56:16 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: DouglasKC; All
From Douglas' vanity:

"Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. The word translated "false prophet" here is not referring to a Godly person who has a prophecy that fails. Instead it's referring to a person who pretends to be a Christian but in reality is not."

Excerpt from: Herbert W. Armstrong Library: Beware of False Prophets by Robert E. Fahey:
"Why does God permit false prophets? Why does God allow wolves to have access to His flock? Why doesn't He expose them before they do any harm? He has His reasons! The first and most basic scripture about false prophets explains why. "If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul" (Deut. 13:1-3).

(Hey, Doug...doesn't seem like all the Herbert W. Armstrong disciples got your memo that "false prophets" doesn't mean "false prophets")...

209 posted on 01/02/2014 5:58:15 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Gene Eric

A foolish request given your understanding of my post.

How would you even know my understanding? You don’t. It’s just a way to malign another freeper while not furthering the discussion. Such a tactic is hiding behind the skirts of relativism AND the catholic church.

Proceeding from the catholic definition of the word is proper here. A relativistic, undefinable, ephemeral belief system that doesn’t even get posted outwardly is worthless to proceed from, so I won’t.


210 posted on 01/02/2014 6:00:12 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: xzins; ravenwolf; narses
It is not possible to read the letters to churches in the New Testament, to read of churches founded in Acts and of their loving to gather together, to read the letters to churches in the Revelation, and to come away from all that with the idea that "lone wolf" Christian is what Christ had in mind.

Right on.

211 posted on 01/02/2014 6:00:41 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: DouglasKC

Then do you agree that those would push a false teaching such as Jesus not being God Himself are properly condemned as heretics on Free Republic?


212 posted on 01/02/2014 6:01:58 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Vigilanteman

The incivility of these vile elements does nothing for the cause of FreeRepublic, Christianity
***You would accuse Christ of being “incivil” or unChristlike or “doing nothing for the cause of christianity” when He condemned false teachers of His day as ‘sons of satan’.


213 posted on 01/02/2014 6:04:41 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Vigilanteman

The incivility of these vile elements does nothing for the cause of FreeRepublic, Christianity
***You would accuse Christ of being “incivil” or unChristlike or “doing nothing for the cause of christianity” when He condemned false teachers of His day as ‘sons of satan’.

In addition, you would add ‘vile’ to one of the descriptions of Christ’s behavior.


214 posted on 01/02/2014 6:05:15 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; All
A few posters have mentioned Mormonism, probably thinking that Douglas is a member of the LDS. However, he is NOT. He is a member of the United Church of God, which is an offshoot group of the Worldwide Church of God, originally founded by Herbert Armstrong. [Greetings_Puny_Humans]

From another Web site: UCG Current Crisis: UCG members are looking for answers in the latest upheaval of the administration and the COE...Individuals who have resigned or been removed from their positions in the last year -- as of March 4, 2011: List of 174 UCG individuals followed by another 31 mentions who were removed, forced to resign, asked to resign, or resigned just between July 2010 and February 2011

From the vanity:
"They devour and all the while pretend that they're one of us."

Doug, based upon the link above describing the UCG "Current Crisis" -- not sure if any of us want to be the "one of us" you reference in this vanity.

215 posted on 01/02/2014 6:09:05 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: DouglasKC

(Forgot to add you for ping to this post)


216 posted on 01/02/2014 6:09:42 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

BookMark


217 posted on 01/02/2014 6:11:08 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kevmo

Yep. And said comments were directed not at the Samaritans, Gentiles or others which might be considered unorthodox or even cultist in today’s popular fundy forums, but at the corrupt mainstream religious leaders, including those self-appointed, who wished to define the Gospel under their own narrow and egotistical terms.


218 posted on 01/02/2014 6:15:19 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Why do you allow false teachers to operate openly on Free Republic in defiance of “the truth is the truth”? The simple truth between catholics and protestants is that they all understand that Jesus is God Himself. Does not the promotion of simple antichristian heresy incur the kind of language that Jesus poured on these guys, calling them “vipers” and “wolves in sheep’s clothing” and “sons of their father the devil”????


219 posted on 01/02/2014 6:16:27 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Vigilanteman

Then you properly align with Christ when He condemned false teachers of His day as ‘sons of satan’. Those who deny that Jesus is God are simply heretics and false teachers.


220 posted on 01/02/2014 6:19:13 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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