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The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
Today | Douglaskc

Posted on 01/02/2014 10:13:07 AM PST by DouglasKC

The Ravenous Wolves of FreeRepublic
How do we deal with the insults and pain of those whom Christ called "ravenous wolves"?

Many aren't aware of it but the phrase "A wolf in sheep’s clothing" has biblical origins.

Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

The word translated "false prophet" here is not referring to a Godly person who has a prophecy that fails. Instead it's referring to a person who pretends to be a Christian but in reality is not. They are compared to "ravenous wolves" among the flock.

These ravenous wolves exist in life. And they exist here in the religious forum of FreeRepublic. They can be a challenge to our faith and to our Christianity. In this article we're going to examine how to identify these wolves in sheep clothing and how to use our shepard, Jesus Christ, to combat them.

How can we know them? Jesus Christ gave us the answer in the very next verse:

Mat 7:16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?

In other words, says Christ, real Christians have a certain, identifiable "fruit". The wolves among the sheep will NOT have these fruits. You can't get grapes from thorns.

Jesus then goes on to make another comparison:

Mat 7:17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.

The word translated "bad" means harmful, or evil. Something that is intended to hurt or destroy. So the hallmark of bad fruit is something that is harmful or destructive to people. "Good" on the other hand is something that is beautiful, beneficial, or worthy.

Mat 7:20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

So the mark of a wolf in sheep’s clothing is whether they bear good fruit, or any. In John 15, Christ gives more detail on this fruit.

John 15:4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
John 15:5 "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

This fruit is something that Christians have. If someone doesn't have Christ they then won't have this fruit.

The Fruit of the Spirit

But what is this fruit? How can we know whether the fruit is good or bad unless we know what it looks like? Luckily the apostle Paul gives us a good idea of what this fruit looks like in the book of Galatians.

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.

This fruit, these characteristics, are the natural result of living and abiding in Christ, in having his spirit.
Paul sums them up beautifully in 1 Corinthians:

1Co 13:4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up;
1Co 13:5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil;
1Co 13:6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;
1Co 13:7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

These characteristics apply across all organizations. Organizations do not have a lock on the spirit of God. If someone exhibits these characteristics on a consistent basis they do have the spirit of God and they are a Christian.

There are many people in various organizations on FreeRepublic that exhibit these traits. Many Catholic, LDS, Protestant and Messianic and other members of FreeRepublic exhibit these traits and thus do have the spirit of God and are Christians.

However there are a very few that rarely if ever exhibit these traits. In fact they exhibit something else....the works of the flesh:

Gal 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness,
Gal 5:20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies,
Gal 5:21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

These behaviors are not just physical but are also spiritual. They are destructive and harmful to themselves and those they come into contact with.

That should not be surprising because the emanate not jut from the flesh, but are demonic in origin. James highlights these works.

James 3:13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom.

Note that good behavior and meekness are hallmarks of of wisdom, having the spirit of the Lord. James contrasts that with other behavior.

James 3:14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth.
James 3:15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic.
James 3:16 For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there.

And back to the righteous:

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Animal Behavior

So these are the fruits. The ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic generally act like their namesakes....wolf like.

You've seen them. They'll post derogatory things about others and their faith. The purpose isn't to defend their own faith which often is hidden or not evident. . The purpose is to satisfy their hunger for division, acrimony and blood.

Like animals they seem not to know how to behave civility. They can't address others with whom they disagree without snarling, spitting and insulting. They bare their teeth and pretend that their animal nature is noble and Godly.

They justify their animal nature by pretending that they're just like us. They show us their sheepskin but they can't hide their true nature.

Like a wolf pack there is hierarchy and anyone outside of the pack is instantly set upon if one so much as questions the rules of the pack.

Like a wolf pack they howl, or ping others, when they think they've identified a victim. Peter describes their behavior perfectly:

1Pe_5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

That's how the ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic operate. They bait. They hunt down. They attack. They devour and all the while pretend that they're one of us.

Christ is the Shepherd

How do we deal with these wolves? These impostors? These fake Christians? After all they seem to have the advantage of aggressiveness, viciousness and have no qualms about personally attacking others.

The answer is that "we" can't do anything. We're sheep. We're weak. We're helpless. We don't have the teeth or claws they do.

But we have something else. Something they don't have. We have Christ as our shepherd protecting and guiding us. They can't harm us if we depend on Christ and stay in the flock.

Really all the wolves can do is sit just outside the flock, snarling, biting and snapping at us. And maybe that's why they're bitter and angry. They realize that they're not real sheep. They envy that the sheep have real faith in their shepherd. They wonder why Christ doesn't accept their disguise as being the real thing.

Now certainly we're not perfect sheep. I'm not. Sometimes we take their bait. It's not easy to see other sheep begin attacked or to be attacked. Sometimes we want to snarl back with our little sheep teeth. But it rarely works because to do that we have to leave the side of Christ.

The best strategy is to let Christ take care of them. They're not fooling very many and they're certainly not fooling Jesus. They're interested only in satisfying their hunger. They don't want to debate. When they pretend they are they're really only dangling bait to draw others out where they will be vulnerable and away from the shepherd.

About such Christ said:

Mat 7:6 "Don't give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls to pigs. Otherwise, they will trample them and then tear you to pieces.

These ravenous wolves of FreeRepublic have figured out how to manipulate and find the "loopholes" in the forum rules so their rude, crude and unChristian behavior is tolerated. But they're not fooling anyone. A leopard can't hide his spots.

Ultimately they are to be pitied. Clearly they've had experiences in their lives where they've been hurt deeply. They've been betrayed. They've been picked on. They've been abused. So not knowing Christ they do the same to others. They behave like animals as all Christians did before becoming Christians.

But they don't have to. One day God will open up their eyes. He will show them that they are only pretending to be sheep and they will realize their animal nature and be ashamed. And then Christ will show them HOW to become sheep.

Our prayers should be that they will change. That they will bear fruit worthy of repentance. And we should examine ourselves and our attitudes toward them and others. To pray that God gives us the wisdom, kindness and gentleness to deal with those who would use us and spitefully accuse us.

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor, and hate your enemy.'
Mat 5:44 But I tell you this: Love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you.
Mat 5:45 In this way you show that you are children of your Father in heaven.

This should be our goal. To let the light of our Father shine through and to glorify him. A tall order to be sure but the only way to stand up to the wolves.


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To: DouglasKC
This thread should be a shoe-in for a Pulitzer Passive/Aggressive Prize.
101 posted on 01/02/2014 1:18:12 PM PST by tomkat
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To: dadfly
nice post. i say, with joy, let them all come to FR and have one of the few great lights in the darkness on the internet shine on them, too. just as it continues to shine on the dark places in me.

Amen.

102 posted on 01/02/2014 1:19:21 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Jim Robinson
 

Is this about Mormonism?

If so, don’t worry the truth shall set you free. And FR is about truth. It’s our mission. Wouldn’t have it any other way.

God bless.

For many FReepers; Mormonism/Catholicism/Flying Spaghetti Monsterism... Its all the same thing.

Fortunately for the Papists here; they get special treatment.

104 posted on 01/02/2014 1:20:19 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: DouglasKC

So this priest, rabbi, and minister log onto Free Republic....


105 posted on 01/02/2014 1:25:13 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: ex-snook

With apologies, if that is all there is, you can hear the Gospel at home on TV and radio.


Or read the Bible, which nobody had any of these back then.


106 posted on 01/02/2014 1:26:37 PM PST by ravenwolf
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

I’ve been here a long time, FRiend.

I’m allowed ;-)


107 posted on 01/02/2014 1:29:00 PM PST by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: Jack Hydrazine
They were bred to be wolf killers but are great with people.

Just like Jesus!

108 posted on 01/02/2014 1:31:26 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

bttt :)


109 posted on 01/02/2014 1:34:20 PM PST by Matchett-PI (It's a single step from relativism to barbarism, low information to Democrat, ignorance to tenure)
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To: tomkat

bttt :)


110 posted on 01/02/2014 1:35:01 PM PST by Matchett-PI (It's a single step from relativism to barbarism, low information to Democrat, ignorance to tenure)
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To: ravenwolf; annalex; narses
The followers of Jesus is his Church, following Jesus is to live his gospel.

It is not possible to read the letters to churches in the New Testament, to read of churches founded in Acts and of their loving to gather together, to read the letters to churches in the Revelation, and to come away from all that with the idea that "lone wolf" Christian is what Christ had in mind.

It isn't. The entire New Testament is testimony that such is not the case.

I'll go further: there is no such thing as individual Christianity.

Individuals can be Christians, but Christianity is corporate.

111 posted on 01/02/2014 1:35:41 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: CityCenter
There’s truth in what you have written here and it’s important to separate that truth from the individual. I have seen first hand a lot of very ugly commentary and name calling regarding public figures, political enemies, etc. I thought Christianity was a pillar of conservative values but I have to admit I have read so many offensive comments I have questioned whether I should continue. A recent thread about Katy Perry went south after only 1-2 comments. I don’t understand the vicious treatment of her. She is a person who apparenrtly lost her faith and only one person in that thread had anything charitable to say about her siutation. I love this site. It’s where I come to get conservative news and thought. I think we can do better and I try to say so whenever I have the opportunity.

Completely agree and something I too struggle with. It's easy to get caught up in the secular world of bashing to get on the bandwagon or be one of the crowd.

112 posted on 01/02/2014 1:42:13 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Vigilanteman
Except that in the former case it was Jesus Christ himself offering salvation, not some self-appointed spokesman.

Jesus is ever the only one who offers salvation.

We go to Him and He won't turn anyone who asks away.

113 posted on 01/02/2014 1:45:47 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: ravenwolf
James said no man can tame their tongue, that obviously includes Christians, and since it is even easier to put it in writing there is a lot of it.

Yah he was writing to Christians too!

Paul said some things that i do not think was proper about peter even though they were both Christian.

Paul could get away with it..he had the bonafides. Plus brother can and should correct each other and if there's a basis of love already established it's all good.

I guess i see it a little different, i see so many scribes and pharisees and so many who think of them selves as all knowing but i do not think of any one as animals.

Yes, but they exist nonetheless...

And i do think these discussions are some what beneficial because we are more apt to tell it like we think it is rather than going along with something the Bible plainly said is wrong. For instance Jesus tells us to pray to God in secret but you can hear many preachers praying for a quarter of a mile. But would i go to a preacher and tell him that? No but i will say it here.

Yeah, there are ways of saying and correcting that honestly show love and caring as opposed to condemnation, insult and injury. That's all....

114 posted on 01/02/2014 1:49:20 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Mormonism is a wolf in sheep's clothing... SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES (John 5:39)

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves ... For such are FALSE apostles, DECEITFUL workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.” (Matthew 7:15; 2nd Corinthians 11:13).

 
- Warning -
 
This thread has been flagged as a Cultic Mormon Sympathy Thread
by Christians on FreeRepublic.com
 
Let the reader beware!

115 posted on 01/02/2014 1:53:37 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: DouglasKC

Looks to me like this thread is a direct attack on a whole lot of good Christian freepers and personal friends of mine. Suggest you take a different path in the future. Also suggest you quit spamming FR with posts from your organization. Someone who didn’t know any better might begin to think you’re proselytizing for a cult.


116 posted on 01/02/2014 1:58:48 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: DouglasKC
I read your "article." You're complaining that some Freepers are uncharitable toward Christians? Which Freepers? To which "brand" of Christianity are they uncharitable? That last question is very important. Not all organizations that call themselves "Christian" are Christian.

I can call my car a 747, but that doesn't mean it will fly.

And you're using some of the sayings of Jesus out of context.

Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

Again, your words: The word translated "false prophet" here is not referring to a Godly person who has a prophecy that fails. Instead it's referring to a person who pretends to be a Christian but in reality is not.

"Christian" and "Christianity", as you use the terms, did not exist when Jesus made these comments. In fact, the "church" did not come into existence until after Jesus' death, burial and resurrection. How much after? Read Acts 2. That was the establishment of the "church" as we know it.

Jesus was a Jew living in the Mosaical dispensation. That's the context of his comments. He is not referring to Christians or to Christianity.

Many Catholic, LDS, Protestant and Messianic and other members of FreeRepublic exhibit these traits and thus do have the spirit of God and are Christians.

Seriously? LDS? Mormons? The Doctrine of Blood Atonement? Adam - God doctrine? God is God simply because he got a head start, and someday we'll similarly be gods?

You know nothing, nothing of which you speak. Or, you know the truth, but have ulterior motives.

Mormonism is polytheistic and is the antithesis of Christianity. Only a fraud could possibly suggest LDS is a Christian organization.

And then, you try to protect yourself from criticism by condemning any who identify you for what you are.

Christ saw frauds and He called them out. In Matthew 23, addressing those who tried to present as experts in religion, seven times Jesus called them hypocrites. In verse 33 He even called them snakes.

In Matthew 3:7, John the Baptist called these same frauds, phoneys who presented themselves as experts in matters of religion, as a "generation of vipers." Snakes. That's what they were.

Yet, you post this thread with your hidden agenda, knowing that many will disagree with your tactics, with the caveat that these critics are equivalent to ravenous wolves.

Why don't you just get to the point? What's your "religion?" To which threads are you alluding? Freepers have attacked certain "religions." Which religions?

There's another passage that comes to mind.

Matt 7:21-23: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

117 posted on 01/02/2014 2:00:48 PM PST by LouAvul (In a state of disbelief as to how liberals destroyed America in a mere 40 years.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

You wrote: “....Same with others who suddenly threw down their gauntlet (.. Armstrongists..) and declared “THEY” were right and everyone else was wrong!”

Ohhhhh...them’s fightin’ words to Douglas KC. :)

You wrote: “Meanwhile, the Catholics and Protestants tangle and each is able to fairly well hold their ground.. But then, what do you expect from well founded __Trinitarians__.”

WOW! MORE figntin’ words for Douglas KC:

See all the way back to 2005, no less=>

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/1670675/posts?page=140#140


118 posted on 01/02/2014 2:03:26 PM PST by Matchett-PI (It's a single step from relativism to barbarism, low information to Democrat, ignorance to tenure)
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To: Jim Robinson

You wrote to DKC: “..Someone who didn’t know any better might begin to think you’re proselytizing for a cult.”

Exactly. See my post #118


119 posted on 01/02/2014 2:06:55 PM PST by Matchett-PI (It's a single step from relativism to barbarism, low information to Democrat, ignorance to tenure)
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To: xzins

It is not possible to read the letters to churches in the New Testament,


Well yes, but i was not referring to any letters to the Churches, i was referring to the gospel of Jesus where he told us how we should treat our neighbor, our enemy, our brothers.

Read Matthew 25:31-46

Jesus sent his apostles and disciples out to preach the gospel.

What did they set up the Churches for? to preach that gospel.

Do all kids who start to school finish the school and then become school teachers? no.

Do all kids go to school all of their life? no.

They are expected to keep what they learned and make use of it in their daily life.

I find no fault in people going to Church but like i said i do not go to Church for the reasons i stated.


I’ll go further: there is no such thing as individual Christianity.

Ok, what group of Christians would you want me to join?


120 posted on 01/02/2014 2:20:34 PM PST by ravenwolf
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