When is the Rapture ?

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[Uri’el-2012]

Why I believe the Rapture of the Church

will take place between December 25, 2013,

and January 4, 2014

The Lord has been giving me pieces to a puzzle for the last 13 years, leading me to the date for the firstfruits Rapture of the Church. The puzzle ends between December 25, 2013, and January 4, 2014. I very strongly believe that the Rapture will take place on January 3/4, 2014. However, it is possible that the puzzle can end as early as December 25, 2013.

[HarleyD]

Amen!!!

1Co 1:4-9 I give thanks to my God always for you because of the grace of God that was given you in Christ Jesus, that in every way you were enriched in him in all speech and all knowledge—even as the testimony about Christ was confirmed among you—so that you are not lacking in any gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

We are enriched in Him. We never lack anything. And we wait. He will sustain us for He is faithful. To His glory only.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “ Even though the written law is good, we really don’t want to live by it-in spite of what we might do or say. Otherwise, if we did we would simply keep the commands” <<

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That idea cannot be supported by Yeshua’s words recorded in the gospels. He constantly demanded obedience to his torah, and when he healed, he always said “go and sin no more.”

Your idea makes him a buffoon at best if what he constantly asked of us is not possible.

You constantly fail to discern the difference between relying on the Torah foe justification, and following Torah out of love for our savior. We know that we are justified only by faith, we follow Torah to please him.

[editor-surveyor]

Do you really not understand that the olive symbolizes only Israel?

[editor-surveyor]

He promised to write Torah on our hearts. Perhaps there is no room in yours to do it.

[HarleyD]

HD-Even though the written law is good, we really don’t want to live by it-in spite of what we might do or say. Otherwise, if we did we would simply keep the commands”

E-S-That idea cannot be supported by Yeshua’s words recorded in the gospels.

It is simple logic-yet people refuse to understand it. All you have to do is ask yourself a simple question: If you are free to keep all of God's commands then do you? If your answer to this is "No." (which I hope it is), then the follow up question is, "Why not."

But if you want Yeshua's words then I would suggest a study of this passage:

Luk 10:26 He said to him, "What is written in the Law? How do you read it?"

Luk 10:27 And he answered, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself."

Luk 10:28 And he said to him, "You have answered correctly; do this, and you will live."

Even the rich, young ruler understood that the law is summed up by loving God and loving others as ourselves. The ruler was unable to keep just these two commandments for in the next sentence we find he got a little nervous:

Luk 10:29 But he, desiring to justify himself, said to Jesus, "And who is my neighbor?"

The law is two commandments. Love God. Love our neighbors as ourselves. There is no justification for our failures to be obedient to God's law.

Deu 30:11 "For this commandment that I command you today is not too hard for you, neither is it far off.

Deu 30:12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, 'Who will ascend to heaven for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?'

Deu 30:13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that you should say, 'Who will go over the sea for us and bring it to us, that we may hear it and do it?'

Deu 30:14 But the word is very near you. It is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you can do it.

He constantly demanded obedience to his torah, and when he healed, he always said “go and sin no more.”

Our Lord only responded this way twice-once with the adulteress woman and once with the lame person who our Lord heal. We don't know what happened with the adulteress woman but with the lame man he immediately turned and betrayed our Lord to the Jewish authorities. It is our sinful nature to betray Christ-even after He heals us.

God doesn't demand anything from us. He ask that we turn to Him to be healed-time and time again. The proper response to this question would have been,

Joh_6:68 Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life,

Do we love the Lord with all our heart, soul, and mind? Do we love our neighbor as ourselves? Have we given away everything we own to the poor?

We know that we are justified only by faith, we follow Torah to please him.

Psa 69:30-31 I will praise the name of God with a song; I will magnify him with thanksgiving. This will please the LORD more than an ox or a bull with horns and hoofs.

The Lord is pleased with us most when we are magnifying Him the most. And just a song of thankfulness will suffice.

[Elsie]

Do you really not understand that the olive symbolizes only Israel?

Uh; weren't you going to PROVE something?

[Elsie]

You’re a mean one, Mr. Grinch!

[CynicalBear]

Satan has used every trick he has available to him to convince people that they need to “earn” their place in heaven. They will use words to deny that fact but their haughty better than thow attitude and preaching of works testify against them.

Jesus said if you break even one of the laws you have broken them all. Those who preach following the laws should take heed to that phrase. Those who turn their lives over to Jesus and trust in Him alone rather than their carnal attempts will understand the change of heart and desires that result. Those who preach following laws and carnal attempts at justification will never understand the peace that is in Jesus.

[CynicalBear]

>> You constantly fail to discern the difference between relying on the Torah foe justification, and following Torah out of love for our savior.<<

You fail to understand the difference between the time before Jesus death and resurrection and after.

[CynicalBear]

When one has to stoop to accusing a person of being drunk it’s rather obvious they have lost the ability to defend their position. I’m the second one you have used that tactic on. That same tactic was used against the apostles. We can rest assured that didn’t come from the Holy Spirit.

[Uri’el-2012]

Yesterday.

google {ariel sharon isaac kaduri}

Ariel Sharon died yesterday !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[SisterK]

Whoa.
Thanks for the post.

[editor-surveyor]

Keep on stomping your feet and screaming La la la la.

Or just read Romans in light of who the olive tree represents in scripture.

[editor-surveyor]

When someone posts something utterly stupid to me, I am inclined to give them the benefit of doubt, and presume not that they are stupid, but that something unnatural has impeded their otherwise sound judgment.

[editor-surveyor]

>> “You fail to understand the difference between the time before Jesus death and resurrection and after.” <<

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So, then, by your understanding, after the resurrection we are no longer to love and obey our savior?

Thanks for that wisdom!

[Uri’el-2012]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3110673/posts?page=3#3

[CynicalBear]

Of course you do. What ever made you think anyone would suggest otherwise? Weren't you just emulating your mentors?

Acts 2:13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

[Elsie]

Or just read Romans in light of who the olive tree represents in scripture.

So you can't prove anything?

[Elsie]

Don’t forget that those “gentiles” happen to be mostly out of covenant members of the “House of Israel” in dispersion.

The lurkers are STILL waiting for YOU to explain Yourself...

[CynicalBear]

>>So, then, by your understanding, after the resurrection we are no longer to love and obey our savior?<<

So you twist it now to include “love and obey”? I also believe Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to “teach you all things”.

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

I also know how to rightly divide the word of truth.

II Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

I also know that your law keeping was weak and couldn’t gain us what Christ did.

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

I also know that your condemnation is only Satan’s accusing and not from God.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. And we have been set free from that law that you would have us put back under.

Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Those who would attempt to justify themselves by works of the law should take heed of the word of the Holy Spirit.

Gal. 2:16, "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified."

Those of you who would have us believe that Christ died needlessly by attempting to put us back under the law nullify the grace of God.

Gal. 2:21, I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.

We have been freed from that law you attempt to put us back under.

Acts 13:39 and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things, from which you could not be freed through the Law of Moses.

I would rebuke your words as Paul rebuked Peter.

Gal. 2:16, "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified."