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When is the Rapture ?
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Posted on 12/23/2013 7:16:44 PM PST by Uri’el-2012

Why I believe the Rapture of the Church

will take place between December 25, 2013,

and January 4, 2014

The Lord has been giving me pieces to a puzzle for the last 13 years, leading me to the date for the firstfruits Rapture of the Church. The puzzle ends between December 25, 2013, and January 4, 2014. I very strongly believe that the Rapture will take place on January 3/4, 2014. However, it is possible that the puzzle can end as early as December 25, 2013.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion
KEYWORDS: 2012; antichrist; endtimes; eschatology; prophecy; rapture; theology; tribulation
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To: CynicalBear

Do you ever read the Bible cogently?

Does everything have to be imaginary?

Can the Bible contain real things?


501 posted on 01/06/2014 7:43:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Cvengr

I see now that you are holding out for a ‘brown dwarf’ star to fall to Earth.

Science fiction and the Bible are incompatible.


502 posted on 01/06/2014 7:47:10 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
>>Do you ever read the Bible cogently?<<

Yes, I do. That’s why I don’t have to make things up and can understand prophesy.

>>Does everything have to be imaginary?<<

No, it has to be consistent with the rest of scripture.

>>Can the Bible contain real things?<<

Nice try. You really need to leave the Hebrew roots cult nonsense so that you can begin to understand prophesy.

503 posted on 01/06/2014 8:19:13 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: editor-surveyor

Something more akin to the Great Flood. Think about mountain ranges being leveled.


504 posted on 01/07/2014 3:52:52 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: CynicalBear

You’re locked into a Bible that doesn’t exist.

It’s about a savior who was not who he is, nor called by his own name, and whose commandments are void.

Wonderful.


505 posted on 01/07/2014 2:40:12 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Cvengr

The seals are of man, the flood was of Yehova.

Yehova’s wrath begins at the 7th trump, and it is all for his enemies, short and sweet.


506 posted on 01/07/2014 2:42:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Galatians 5:1-4 It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you. And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law. You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.

Romans 7:6 But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

Take your Hebrews cult nonsense somewhere else. I follow scripture.

507 posted on 01/07/2014 3:06:32 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

It would be wonderful if you even understood the verses that you post!

Paul was trying to explain the purpose and limitations of the covenant of the circumcision.


508 posted on 01/07/2014 3:13:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear
Proverbs 24:12

If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?

Matthew 16:27

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Revelation 20:13

And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

509 posted on 01/07/2014 3:25:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” John 6:28-29


510 posted on 01/07/2014 3:35:09 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: editor-surveyor

Why do you think the seals are of man?


511 posted on 01/07/2014 5:28:34 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Well, you know what the Bible says about prophets whose predictions don’t come true.


512 posted on 01/07/2014 5:29:56 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Cvengr

They describe the span of history from the end of the apostolic mission to the present. That is all the first five seals are. The 6th seal is the new stuff. The seals are affixed to Satan’s deed of rights to Planet Earth. (figuratively speaking)


513 posted on 01/07/2014 7:23:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear

You really don’t get it, do you!

If Paul was really telling the Galatians that circumcision separated them from Yeshua, why did he circumcise Timothy?

Obviously there is something you don’t see, huh?


514 posted on 01/07/2014 7:26:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: AppyPappy

He wasn’t prophesying; he was calling attention to an idiot.


515 posted on 01/07/2014 7:27:58 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

(16) And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

I don’t see how one can identify the Lamb with Satan.


516 posted on 01/07/2014 10:13:15 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: editor-surveyor; smvoice; RnMomof7; metmom; boatbums; caww; Iscool; presently no screen name; ...
>>If Paul was really telling the Galatians that circumcision separated them from Yeshua, why did he circumcise Timothy?<<

Editor, I don’t know if you are that totally oblivious to what Paul is teaching or once again trying to lead down some rabbit trail. Either way that statement indicates a lack of understanding of scripture so vast I’m not sure there is space enough on this forum to help you.

I sincerely urge you to seek help in extracting yourself from that insidious Hebrew roots cult heretical influence and seek the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

517 posted on 01/08/2014 5:47:54 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: AppyPappy; UriÂ’el-2012

Nothing destroys one’s credibility like setting dates for what Jesus said can’t be done does it. I read through some of the stuff on that site and realized that there is not sufficient time or space on this forum to point out all the flaws.


518 posted on 01/08/2014 6:03:18 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: Cvengr; editor-surveyor
>> I don’t see how one can identify the Lamb with Satan.<<

When one gets their beliefs from some entity other than scripture the paths to error are many and wide.

519 posted on 01/08/2014 6:07:17 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear; editor-surveyor

Permit me offer this: Acts 16:1-3 says Timothy was circumcised to show he was actually a Jewish convert and not a Greek as his father was. Since it was not a sign of putting himself under the Mosaic Law again Timothy was simply following a custom that while not demanded of new disciples neither was it forbidden for as Paul says at Gal. 5:6, ‘neither circumcision nor uncircumcision mean anything’.


520 posted on 01/08/2014 6:44:46 AM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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