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Why Don't We Use "Yahweh" In Mass Any More?
Aggie Catholic ^ | September 26, 2013

Posted on 09/27/2013 7:11:44 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 09/27/2013 7:11:44 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 09/27/2013 7:12:03 AM PDT by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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My understanding was that certain groups of conservative Jews objected as they found it offensive.


3 posted on 09/27/2013 7:18:24 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That’s a shame, because, far from being forbidden to Christians to use the name, it is very much encouraged:

“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Romans 10:13


4 posted on 09/27/2013 7:25:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NYer

I’m a pre-Vatican 2 Catholic and never used the Hebrew word for God. It was not said in the Mass, either. Must have come into fashion later...


5 posted on 09/27/2013 7:41:11 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Boogieman

I suggest — just a suggestion — that since the Annunciation the, so to speak, “operative” Name of the Lord is Jesus, and I would appeal to Philippians 2:5-11 as a guide to pious practice if not to theology.


6 posted on 09/27/2013 7:47:01 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: NYer

The wide use of the name of God, rather than “God” or “Lord,” stems from the Jerusalem Bible, especially in the Psalms.

It deeply offended many Jews.


7 posted on 09/27/2013 7:50:21 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Mad Dawg

Sure, I agree that Jesus is Lord. However, if you start substituting the name “Jesus” for “Yahweh”, you are, in a way, eroding the whole idea of a trinitarian God. If the names are interchangeable, then it implies the persons are interchangeable, which implies that a trinity is a bit superlative.


8 posted on 09/27/2013 8:04:33 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Arthur McGowan

“It deeply offended many Jews.”

I don’t see why, since they don’t consider gentiles to be bound by their laws.


9 posted on 09/27/2013 8:05:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NYer
Pope Benedict made a deal with a group of Jews to stop using the word.
Funny story about this:
My parish in Florida still uses it. When I asked about it the Cantor told me, “Oh our piano player is Jewish and HE said it's alright.” I just nodded and walk away laughing.
10 posted on 09/27/2013 8:21:01 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

God has a lot of official names (HaShem, Adonai, El, etc), the Tetragrammton is a very specific one and a very formal one, only spoken by the High Priest at certain times in front of the Ark of the Covenent, and forbidden to be said at other times.

Now, as Christians, I know that sort of thing doesn’t apply, but it sure seems a bit rude to use the name in any other manner than directed by God Himself, so I always thought this was a wise decision.

Regarding Jews who right “God” as “G-d”, the article is incorrect. Jews are not permitted to let the name of God (however written) get defaced, so, in causual writings (like the internet), the word is avoided or written like “G-d.”*

* Learned this on FR from some of our more helpful Jewish Freepers.


11 posted on 09/27/2013 8:21:49 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Boogieman

The prohibition against pronouncing The Name isn’t just any law.

The decision by the editors of the Jerusalem Bible was needless.


12 posted on 09/27/2013 8:22:06 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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“The prohibition against pronouncing The Name isn’t just any law.”

Was it given to anyone but the Jews?

That’s all that really should matter to them, the way they view God’s laws. They have one set given to them, and another for the rest of us. So, if God gave it only to them, their own interpretation says that gentiles don’t have to obey it. Otherwise, they are being hypocritical.


13 posted on 09/27/2013 8:26:04 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Arthur McGowan

Got to remember that except in the USA, in other countries, the readings came from the Jerusalem Bible. I have a hard cover copy of that Bible.


14 posted on 09/27/2013 8:30:25 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: NYer

See my tag line

This is my understanding of the sacred names of the father and of his son


15 posted on 09/27/2013 8:37:15 AM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: Arthur McGowan
It deeply offended many Jews.

What doesn't?

16 posted on 09/27/2013 8:39:28 AM PDT by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Now, as Christians, I know that sort of thing doesn’t apply, but it sure seems a bit rude to use the name in any other manner than directed by God Himself, so I always thought this was a wise decision.

There is no such demand or direction from YHWH. In fact, if you would read the law, you will see that "YHWH" is to be His name of remembrance among men - It is supposed to be on our lips. It is the name that we are to swear by.

But instead we cover it up and make it secret.

17 posted on 09/27/2013 8:39:50 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Hacksaw

We’re not talking about the professional “I’m-offended” crowd. The taboo against pronouncing the Name is not trivial.


18 posted on 09/27/2013 8:43:20 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Hacksaw

We’re not talking about the professional “I’m-offended” crowd. The taboo against pronouncing the Name is not trivial.


19 posted on 09/27/2013 8:43:20 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Sadly, too many folks “assume” everyone is in that particular group, the “I’m offended because of _____ (fill in the blank for favorite offended group). I kid you not.


20 posted on 09/27/2013 8:48:01 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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