Posted on 08/15/2013 7:03:11 PM PDT by annalex
Once a woman in the crowd surrounding Christ and His disciples cries out to Him:
Blessed is the womb that bore thee, and the paps that gave thee suck. (Luke 11:27)
What is it? We have, clearly, an act of venerating Mary. Note that the Blessed Virgin is venerated properly: not on her own but as the mother of Christ. Yet the reason for venerating is indeed concerning: it is her physiological and physiologically unique relationship with Jesus that is emphasized. That is not yet paganism with its crude theories of gods giving birth to other gods, but it is lacking proper focus and Jesus corrects it:
Yea rather, blessed are they who hear the word of God, and keep it. (Luke 11:28)
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| The Virgin with the Child on her knees and a prophet pointing at the star. Catacomb of Priscilla, late 2nd c. Source |
Having gotten past this linguistic hurdle, we can understand clearly what this passage, Luke 11:27-28, does: it establishes veneration of saints based not on their blood relation to Christ but on their obedience to God. It is in that sense that we venerate Our Lady: given that Christ is the Word of God personified, she heard and kept both Him in person as her Child and His teaching, figuratively. In Mary the essence of sainthood is seen in the flesh as well as in the mind. We could say that by the late second century at the latest, when we find evidence of the veneration of both the prophets and the Mother of God in the catacombs, the two reasons to venerate a saint: his martyrdom as in the case of Polycarp, or his obedience to the Word, as in Mary, -- unite into a single practice.
Thanks for that awesome interp..... er.... expla...... ....um...... well whatever you call it.....
It was good.
Let me play!
Not a divorce, but an anullment!
And who exactly BUILT and supported those monasteries??? Kinda hard for that to happen if EVERYONE is IN them.
Thanks! What are you doing up so late???
Oooo.... That’s a good one.....
Not a water baptism, but wanting to be!
Not a personal belief in Jesus Christ as Savior, but having good intentions, being a "good" person and woulda if he coulda known!
Why the heretics and unbeliever's, dontcha know?
Musta been them that built this *monastery* ,....
I should live in such poverty.......
I woke up hungry and couldn’t get back to sleep. Getting a snack beats tossing and turning for a couple hours.
This really has some potential.
And even more images of the poverty that Catholics live in.
What a tough life some people have.
I’m turning in now. Hope you get some good sleep.
My Turn!
The “first pope” was married, but now it is forbidden among the priesthood. Unless of course you you were married and then became a priest. (Understand?)
1 Corinthians 9:5 Don’t we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas?
Matthew 8:14 When Jesus came into Peter’s house, he saw Peter’s mother-in-law lying in bed with a fever. 15 He touched her hand and the fever left her, and she got up and began to wait on him.
WHY do you hate us MORMONs?
--MormonDude(Them Catholics thew OUT a lot of the bible! Joseph Smith got it back!!!)
That could prove QUITE lengthy if the foreign language is from the bible.
THEN there would be the subsequent FIGHTING over which one is 'correct'.
Are you SURE you say this for clarity; or for job security???
For me; Getting a snack MEANS tossing and turning for a couple hours.
(Reflux)
Yeah, a thread could roll on FOREVER with it!
I do not hold that believers are not conscious after death, but that they are with the Lord. However, that they even know the details of what is going on in the life of believers on earth is speculation at best, much less that it is Scriptural to address prayers to them.
But for Rome, Scripture is a 2nd or 3rd class (as in this case) authority and superfluous as the sure basis for doctrine. Thus it is not surprising that some of her apologists often evidence they feel free to compel it to support their object of faith and devotion (Rome), in their cultic compulsion to defend her. Sad but too often too evident.
Luther was a heretical, evil devil from hell who was excommunicated from the Catholic church (quickly cross oneself) but wait....!!.. here are some lovely things he wrote in support of Catholic doctrine that “even Luther” (Satan) agreed with.
Always my favorite!
Water can mean many things, but baptism is in water:
when the ark was a building: wherein a few, that is, eight souls, were saved by water. [21] Whereunto baptism being of the like form, now saveth you also: not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the examination of a good conscience towards God by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. (1 Peter 3:20-21)
Perhaps a little more succinctly put.
Priests can’t be married except when they can.
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