Posted on 08/05/2013 10:31:02 AM PDT by Gamecock
Question:
Does the OPC use the crucifix in the church? If not, are they opposed to it?
Answer:
Thank you for your question. The answer is, so far as I know, the crucifix is not used in OPC churches, and here is why:
1.The Second Commandment (Ex. 20:4-6 and Deut. 5:8-10) forbids any picture or image of God, and that would include the Son of God, even as man. At any rate we do not know what Jesus looked like as there is no physical description of him.
2.The crucifix will always end up being an object of worship—regarded as holy. History teaches as much. The bronze serpent Moses made became an object of worship and was not destroyed till King Hezekiah did it (Numbers 21:9; 2 Kings 18:1-5). Roman Catholics have worshipped it, kissed it and held it to have mystical powers.
3.Christ did not remain on the Cross. In the Roman Church Christ is said to be resacrificed each time the Mass is celebrated. This is heresy; he died once for all—Hebrews 9:25-28.
We in the OPC have learned not to trust our idolatry prone hearts not to do the same as others have in the past. Hence, no crucifixes are used. So, yes, we are opposed to it.
And then there was...
1. Rahab the Hooker
2. The talking ass
3. and ELSIE!
ALL have there place in the scheme of things.
"Oh, George; not the livestock!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a33sr9UGvo
AMEN2
Now we see through a glass darkly...
Irrelevant to the discussion.
That has happened a LOT in this thread!
(Did you know it started out about crucifixes and Presbyterians?)
Kinda like the misuse of "...sell all you have and give to the poor"...
2/3 nana
>> “In fact, it would be interesting to know how you have discerned that ant of the wine consumed at Cana was alcoholic wine” <<
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This is going to have to be a “Get Real” moment.
I want to say first that I have no desire to impun your chosen chastity WRT alcohol.
Have you ever read the second chapter of John carefully enough to determine what time of the year it was?
The wedding was just over a week before Passover, which is always in the middle of the month of the Aviv. This was a traditional spring wedding. Where would anyone find grape juice in that time of the year?
And who would have praised the quality after having had wine earlier, and then served grape juice?
Put your bias aside, and read the chapter with more discernment of what is actually being said.
Also note that Yeshua had done more than just make wine; he had defiled the ceremonial hand washing pots of the pharisees, a total rejection of their Takanot for “the washing of the hands.” (he had a later run-in with them recorded in Matthew on this same subject)
LOL! You would be astounded how many people don't know that!
And apparently don’t want to know it.
Worse still is the invidious ignorance of the importance of wine to the everyday health and sanitation of the entire world before instant sanitation became possible, at the beginning of the 20th century.
You sound like a liberal. They don't want a gun so no one should have a gun. You have problem with drinking so no one should ever drink.
Sure you can admit that Sola Scriptura is a man made fallacy and renounce it now.
Funny I just noticed that when I logged back in. These threads ALWAYS turn into rabbit warrens
Authority? Josephus? or what?
Pontius Pilate.
Remember that he was surprised that Jesus died so soon. The piercing of His side was simply a way to ensure to Pilate that He was dead before the Sabbath so that He could be taken down and buried according to the pleas of His followers.
Tsk, tsk. Must read that Bible of yours, mustn't you? :)
Oh?? That somehow makes it RIGHT? THIS 'belief' is recorded in Scripture: ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of GOD.
And???
And?
Sounds like Captain Louis Renault saying: “Shocked!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1DEG6BWgp0
One of my favorite movies.
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