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To: .45 Long Colt
"Such silliness. I’m afraid you don’t know the first thing of Calvinism. Anyone who believes Calvinism leads to a profligate sinful lifestyle doesn’t understand Calvinism."

Right - Calvinists can't sin anymore. (And B.O. is a great president.)

You're missing the point badly. Calvinists believe they cannot lose their salvation, while Methodists, Adventists, some Pentacostals, and many other Protestants believe that that Calvinist view is utter, pure nonsense, and that you most certainly can lose your salvation. That is the point -- Protestants do not agree on that most important question of of all Christians.

I'll try to check back tomorrow to see if you reply, but I would like to point out that brevity is the soul of wit.

1,280 posted on 07/18/2013 9:55:16 PM PDT by Heart-Rest (Good reading ==> | ncregister.com | catholic.com | ewtn.com | newadvent.org |)
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To: Heart-Rest

No I got it perfectly. I missed nothing. I just wanted to give you some biblical insight into perseverance. It’s a doctrine that gives the born-again believer much comfort.

Yes, I disagree with some of my Protestant brethren, but the disputes among Protestants will be settled in eternity. Someday we will all have a more perfect understanding of what God has done for us. Adventists aside, the rest of us agree that salvation is by grace through faith in Christ alone. Catholics believe no such thing. You believe a different gospel. There are many many unbiblical wicked ornaments on the Catholic tree, but ultimately we are divided over the very heart of the gospel. That’s why Luther and the other Reformers had to leave Rome.

And I never said Calvinists can’t sin. I said the precise opposite. I said that old sin nature will be with us to the end. Reading is fundamental.

Also, I’m sorry if reading a lot of Scripture troubles you. Your attitude isn’t all that surprising. Rome kept the Scriptures from the people for centuries and attacked those godly men who had the temerity to translate it into the vulgar tongues. Rome still doesn’t emphasize the Word.


1,281 posted on 07/18/2013 10:21:51 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: Heart-Rest; .45 Long Colt

On the contrary, YOU totally missed the point.

.45 didn’t even begin to claim the Calvinists can’t sin any more.

I’m sure reading comprehension is part of literacy lessons.

Try it sometime.


1,287 posted on 07/18/2013 11:15:31 PM PDT by metmom (rFor freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Heart-Rest
That is the point -- Protestants do not agree on that most important question of of all Christians.

Simple solution: We PROTESTants will get together and have the Holy Spirit lead us (our newly formed COUNCIL) to put it to a vote.

OBVIOUSLY; the MAJORITY of the voters will win the day, and that ALONE will PROVE that the Holy Spirit was leading them!

1,310 posted on 07/19/2013 4:51:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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