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To: Heart-Rest

No I got it perfectly. I missed nothing. I just wanted to give you some biblical insight into perseverance. It’s a doctrine that gives the born-again believer much comfort.

Yes, I disagree with some of my Protestant brethren, but the disputes among Protestants will be settled in eternity. Someday we will all have a more perfect understanding of what God has done for us. Adventists aside, the rest of us agree that salvation is by grace through faith in Christ alone. Catholics believe no such thing. You believe a different gospel. There are many many unbiblical wicked ornaments on the Catholic tree, but ultimately we are divided over the very heart of the gospel. That’s why Luther and the other Reformers had to leave Rome.

And I never said Calvinists can’t sin. I said the precise opposite. I said that old sin nature will be with us to the end. Reading is fundamental.

Also, I’m sorry if reading a lot of Scripture troubles you. Your attitude isn’t all that surprising. Rome kept the Scriptures from the people for centuries and attacked those godly men who had the temerity to translate it into the vulgar tongues. Rome still doesn’t emphasize the Word.


1,281 posted on 07/18/2013 10:21:51 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: .45 Long Colt
And I never said Calvinists can’t sin.

It mattereth not.

The IMPORTANT thing is that we get you PROTESTAnts fighting amoungst each other here!

--CatholicDude(Mary is NOT dead in her tomb!)

1,311 posted on 07/19/2013 4:53:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: .45 Long Colt; metmom; Elsie
"Also, I’m sorry if reading a lot of Scripture troubles you. Your attitude isn’t all that surprising. Rome kept the Scriptures from the people for centuries and attacked those godly men who had the temerity to translate it into the vulgar tongues. Rome still doesn’t emphasize the Word."

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No, seeing a lot of Scripture doesn't bother me at all.    I study the written Word of God every day.    Rather, it is when a person deceitfully hops around through various "proof texts" here and there to "prove" something that bothers me.

For example, watch what I do here, in direct imitation of you:

Luke 10:38 - Now as they went on their way, he entered a village; and a woman named Martha received him into her house. And she had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord’s feet and listened to his teaching.

Deuteronomy 22:24 - Then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones.

I've just "proved" that Mary and Martha should have been stoned to death.    Pretty despicable, huh?

Do you see how ridiculous and dishonest it is to use Sacred Scripture that fraudulent way?

Now take a look at post #1308 from Elsie. She proves there from the Bible that you are completely wrong, and that sin CAN cause you to lose your salvation. If you want some more scriptural "proof" about that, check out this web site. They list a lot more texts than you do that prove that your interpretations of scripture are totally wrong.

   Calvinism Refuted

(By the way, your assertion that the Catholic Church did not allow translations of the Bible into the vernacular, is completely FALSE - and you know where all falsehoods come from. It has been refuted so many times, I'm quite surprised you are still trying to assert it. For example, here are a couple web sites that discuss that issue -- there are over a million other web sites that discuss that too).

And, metmom, in your exalted opinion of yourself (as expressed in your posts in this thread), you profess the great superiority of your reading skills.    Please put those superior reading skills to good use by reading these references also.
1,323 posted on 07/19/2013 6:39:54 AM PDT by Heart-Rest (Good reading ==> | ncregister.com | catholic.com | ewtn.com | newadvent.org |)
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