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"Also, I’m sorry if reading a lot of Scripture troubles you. Your attitude isn’t all that surprising. Rome kept the Scriptures from the people for centuries and attacked those godly men who had the temerity to translate it into the vulgar tongues. Rome still doesn’t emphasize the Word."

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No, seeing a lot of Scripture doesn't bother me at all. I study the written Word of God every day. Rather, it is when a person deceitfully hops around through various "proof texts" here and there to "prove" something that bothers me.

For example, watch what I do here, in direct imitation of you:

Luke 10:38 - Now as they went on their way, he entered a village; and a woman named Martha received him into her house. And she had a sister called Mary, who sat at the Lord’s feet and listened to his teaching.
Deuteronomy 22:24 - Then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and you shall stone them to death with stones.

I've just "proved" that Mary and Martha should have been stoned to death. Pretty despicable, huh?

Do you see how ridiculous and dishonest it is to use Sacred Scripture that fraudulent way?

Now take a look at post #1308 from Elsie. She proves there from the Bible that you are completely wrong, and that sin CAN cause you to lose your salvation. If you want some more scriptural "proof" about that, check out this web site. They list a lot more texts than you do that prove that your interpretations of scripture are totally wrong.

Calvinism Refuted

(By the way, your assertion that the Catholic Church did not allow translations of the Bible into the vernacular, is completely FALSE - and you know where all falsehoods come from. It has been refuted so many times, I'm quite surprised you are still trying to assert it. For example, here are a couple web sites that discuss that issue -- there are over a million other web sites that discuss that too).

And, metmom, in your exalted opinion of yourself (as expressed in your posts in this thread), you profess the great superiority of your reading skills. Please put those superior reading skills to good use by reading these references also.

Then, according to your interpretation of the verses Elsie posted, it is the act of "not sinning" that saves a person? Salvation in Heart-Rest's theology is that we save ourselves by our own works - if we are "good" we go to heaven, if we are "bad" we go to hell. Right?

Can you understand that it is ALL by God's grace that we are saved? There is a reason why God used the word "grace" and not just "mercy" when he speaks of our salvation. Grace means UNdeserved, UNmerited, UNearned and UN-worked for. Because of God's mercy we are not sentenced to everlasting hell due our sins. Because of God's grace we are adopted into His family as sons and daughters of the Most High God and given an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fades not away, reserved in heaven for us who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. (I Peter 1:4,5).