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To: Heart-Rest; .45 Long Colt; metmom; Elsie
Now take a look at post #1308 from Elsie. She proves there from the Bible that you are completely wrong, and that sin CAN cause you to lose your salvation. If you want some more scriptural "proof" about that, check out this web site. They list a lot more texts than you do that prove that your interpretations of scripture are totally wrong.

Then, according to your interpretation of the verses Elsie posted, it is the act of "not sinning" that saves a person? Salvation in Heart-Rest's theology is that we save ourselves by our own works - if we are "good" we go to heaven, if we are "bad" we go to hell. Right?

Can you understand that it is ALL by God's grace that we are saved? There is a reason why God used the word "grace" and not just "mercy" when he speaks of our salvation. Grace means UNdeserved, UNmerited, UNearned and UN-worked for. Because of God's mercy we are not sentenced to everlasting hell due our sins. Because of God's grace we are adopted into His family as sons and daughters of the Most High God and given an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fades not away, reserved in heaven for us who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. (I Peter 1:4,5).

1,347 posted on 07/19/2013 3:15:36 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums; Heart-Rest; .45 Long Colt; Elsie

Problem for Catholics is that God’s standard for works is perfection.

Jesus told us to be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect.

That means NO sin. Zero.

They’re kidding themselves if they think it’s a good works outweighs the bad works scenario.


1,349 posted on 07/19/2013 3:29:49 PM PDT by metmom (rFor freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: boatbums
Then, according to your interpretation of the verses Elsie posted, it is the act of "not sinning" that saves a person?

"What MUST we do...




This ground is so rocky that NOTHING seems to sink in!

1,374 posted on 07/20/2013 3:23:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums; Elsie
"Then, according to your interpretation of the verses Elsie posted, it is the act of "not sinning" that saves a person? Salvation in Heart-Rest's theology is that we save ourselves by our own works - if we are "good" we go to heaven, if we are "bad" we go to hell. Right?"

Wrong boatbums. The two theologies I'm talking about there are two of the opposing Protestant theologies which completely and irreconcilably conflict with each other, and are actually diametrically opposed to each other.

(This pits Presbyterians, Congregationalists, various "Reformed" churches, some Baptists, etc., AGAINST Methodists, Lutherans, certain other Baptists (Free Will Baptists, for example), Seventh-day Adventists, Assemblies of God, certain other Pentecostal churches, etc., regarding one of the most important questions any Christian can ask -- do they have "eternal security"/"perseverance of the saints"/a "once saved, always saved" unbreakable protection, or can they really, truly lose their salvation.)

If you genuinely want to know my own theology, a great place for you to start would be here at these two links:

   Catholic Scripture Study Bible RSV-CE

   The Catechism of the Catholic Church

(Or try these online links):

  The Bible (online)

  The Catechism of the Catholic Church (online)

1,543 posted on 07/21/2013 11:21:22 AM PDT by Heart-Rest (Good reading ==> | ncregister.com | catholic.com | ewtn.com | newadvent.org |)
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