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Butch Cassidy, a Mormon?
LDSLiving.com ^ | May 23, 2013 | KELSEY BERTEAUX

Posted on 06/12/2013 6:12:03 PM PDT by Colofornian

Butch Cassidy is arguably one of the most infamous bandits of the Old West. His lucrative heists, daring schemes of tactical brilliance many years ahead of their time, wrested hundreds of thousands of dollars from banks, trains, and businesses—equivalent to multi-millions today. Only caught once on a charge of horse theft for which he served 18 months in jail, the wildly successful Cassidy earned himself such fame that pop culture today still knows his name. And he was a Mormon.

A Mormon outlaw? It seems like it should be an oxymoron. Latter-day Saints take pride in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, and virtuous, and in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law. Cassidy may have struggled with that last bit, but small things in his mild manner like a commitment not to drink alcohol or gamble ring familiar to practicing Mormons. He may have left the Church, but the influence of his Mormon upbringing never completely left him.

Born in 1866 in Beaver, Utah, as Robert LeRoy Parker to pioneers Maximillian Parker and Ann Campbell Gillies, Cassidy came from faithful Mormon stock. It is likely he was baptized into the Church at the age of 8, but by the time the time he was 13, he had stopped attending almost entirely. The posited reasons for his decline in faith range from blaming the example of his father who also only attended meetings sporadically to a brush he had with the law where he was unjustly accused and treated poorly by officials. Certainly, though, it was the influence of his friend and mentor Mike Cassidy that played the largest role. Whatever all the contributing factors were, Robert changed his name to protect his family and left home at 18 to become one of the most well-known bandits in the Old West.

But in between his famous train heists and bank robberies, Cassidy was an upstanding if unorthodox man. In one instance, he heard of a farmer facing foreclosure and graciously paid off the mortgage, delivering the deed to the man. The next day, he robbed the same bank for the exact amount he’d paid to get his money back. On another occasion, he recovered a horse stolen from 16-year-old Harry Ogden, who had spent his life savings on the animal. After confirming he had retrieved the correct steed, Cassidy ordered the bandit to leave the country, because there was no room for people who would harm a young boy.

Stories like these earned Cassidy the distinction of being a gentleman bandit and Robin Hood, a role with which he readily identified. Cassidy himself once wrote, “The best way to hurt them [those who take advantage of the poor] is through their pocket book. They will holler louder than if you cut off both legs. I steal their money just to hear them holler. Then I pass it out among those who really need it.” One of Cassidy’s known criminal associates, Matt “The Mormon Kid” Warner, described him as “a good-natured outlaw.” Commenting further, he added, “Though he was a dead-shot, Butch didn’t like pulling the trigger . . . . He was revered even among lawmen.” Indeed, throughout his lengthy career in the United States, Cassidy befriended many deputies and went to great lengths to avoid killing.

After fleeing to South America with longtime partner Harry “The Sundance Kid” Longabaugh, Cassidy tried to start a reputable ranch, but when times got tough he turned back to banditry to make ends meet. It is believed that he died in the spectacular Bolivian shootout depicted in the 1969 Robert Redford film, though there are many claims that he faked his death. Whether or not he died there remains a hotly contested debate to this day, but one thing we know for certain: despite his chosen profession and the vicious stereotypes associated with it, he was a man with his own moral code who was deeply affected by his heritage.

Read more about Butch Cassidy and other infamous Mormon bandits in Butch Cassidy and Other Mormon Outlaws of the Old West by Kathryn Jenkins Gordon.


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To: teppe

“Are you anti-christ? I’m shocked that you so recklessly ridicule the Holy Ghost and his mission as attested to in the bible as well as the book of mormon.”

Only mormonism can make the Holy Ghost into a Celestial Tickle Me Elmo... sigh.


21 posted on 06/12/2013 7:23:50 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Colofornian
Latter-day Saints take pride in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, and virtuous, and in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.

Two words: Mountain Meadows

22 posted on 06/12/2013 7:52:08 PM PDT by stormer
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To: Colofornian
Even if he wasn't at the time, the LDS Church would have baptized him in abstentia by now!
23 posted on 06/12/2013 8:05:02 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Colofornian

What?!?

You mean you didn’t know about this????

I mean, you always come on with those looooooong posts you keep on your desktop like you are the be all and end all of Mormonism, that I thought that, I mean, surely you know all about this too.

I guess this must really mess up that election you were so sure you had.

Sheesh, I’ve known about this for decades. It was on a movie I watched as a teenager in high school in California back in the ‘60s.

As I recall, and my memory is pretty shot these days, Billy ‘the Kid’ is on that list too. Matter of fact, I bet a goodly portion of the bad guys of the “wild west” were ex-Mormons or anti-Mormons. Like many of those on this forum that claim to also be ex-Mormons or anti-Mormons.

We cannot all be perfect, ya know. Oh, that’s right, some here think they ARE perfect and their election is sure. Must be nice.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 8:06:44 PM PDT by egfowler3 (Why do I even bother? No one's listening.)
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To: Colofornian

25 posted on 06/12/2013 8:08:21 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: egfowler3

Actually, I didn’t know he was a Mormon, so the thread was useful to me. Not a surprise though, considering the criminal/fraudulent nature and origins of the LDS itself.


26 posted on 06/12/2013 8:11:19 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: teppe

“If you could hie to Kolob, in the twinkling of an eye...”

Then you would meet Elohim himself as he wishes all here below, “Merry Smithmas, everyone!”

We gentiles know that Mormon Jesus is the brother of Lucifer, but not many have heard of the Mormon Santa:

“On, Alma, on, Ether, on, Mosiah now,
“On, Enos, on, Nephi, on Jarom & how!”

With his pack full of handcarts, prairie dresses, and Urim & Thummim for all!

;^)


27 posted on 06/12/2013 8:17:35 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: KevinDavis

There were other Mormon Gunfighters like the Avenging Angels. One of the most murderious was Porter Rockwell who did his shooting for the church. A colorful westerner who deserves to be remembered. It was a time that needed people like that—the Mormons faced terrible repression and even murder at the hands of Anti-Mormons. One of the two pillars of the early Republican Party was anti-Slavery and Anti-Mormonism!


28 posted on 06/12/2013 8:47:42 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Colofornian

So he went to Beaver Liquors one day and became a man. Then he robbed the place blind?


29 posted on 06/12/2013 9:36:15 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: KevinDavis

Oh, that repressive thing..


30 posted on 06/12/2013 9:39:06 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: stormer

Wait, that’s four syllables...


31 posted on 06/12/2013 9:41:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

"Who are those guys?"
32 posted on 06/12/2013 9:46:17 PM PDT by drew
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To: Colofornian

I shot the law,

but the, law won...


33 posted on 06/12/2013 11:06:45 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Colofornian
Butch Cassidy, a Mormon?

Why not!!??

He's DEAD, so he'd probably been dunked, and ANYone with half a brain would accept the MORMON offer in the afterlife!

34 posted on 06/13/2013 5:10:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
... ANYone with half a brain ...

I hear that Zombies will be the next big batch of folks to turn to Mormonism.

They merely just have to die first.

(Or become a missionary...)

 
 
 
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35 posted on 06/13/2013 5:22:05 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian; District13; teppe; restornu
Btw, this book is published by Deseret Books -- owned by the Mormon church.

And yet, our resident FR Mormons will probably get on this thread and complain that WE Christians are trying to make their chosen religion look bad.

36 posted on 06/13/2013 5:25:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
You need a new hobby dude.

Why?

I appreciate an EXPERT in their field.

37 posted on 06/13/2013 5:26:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Was?

Pay yer 10% or else YOU don’t get to be with GOD in the afterlife.


38 posted on 06/13/2013 5:27:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: KevinDavis

Good luck with your “LOOK over THERE!!!” attempt.


39 posted on 06/13/2013 5:28:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: teppe
Are you anti-christ? I’m shocked that you so recklessly ridicule the Holy Ghost and his mission as attested to in the bible as well as the book of mormon.

Are you a doctor?

I'm shocked that you cannot tell the difference between a physiological sensation and the Holy Ghost!

40 posted on 06/13/2013 5:29:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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