Posted on 04/23/2013 9:37:23 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
In a segment titled “God and Hitler,” Gordon Robertson (son of Rev. Pat Robertson), hosted a discussion on the Catholic Church’s response to Hitler. Several errors of fact were made.
1) It is wrong to paint Hitler as a Catholic. Though he was baptized, he excommunicated himself, latae sententiae, when he sought, in his words, to “crush [the Catholic Church] like a toad.” He made good on his pledge by persecuting 8,000 priests, over 500 of whom were killed in concentration camps. He also sought to assassinate the pope.
2) The 1933 Nazi-Vatican Concordat was not a show of solidarity. As Rabbi David Dalin has shown, it was a protective measure designed to protect German Catholics from persecution. In fact, at least 34 letters of protest were sent from the Vatican to the Nazis between 1933 and 1937, culminating in a 1937 encyclical that condemned Nazi violations of the Concordat and its racial ideology. It was smuggled out of Italy and distributed on Palm Sunday to Catholics in Germany. Nothing like this happened in Protestant churches in Germany.
3) It is not true that Hitler met resistance from Protestants alone. There are 800,000 trees planted in Israel that represent the 800,000 Jews saved by the Catholic Church. None have been planted as a tribute to Protestants. During the war, the New York Times twice said the Church was “a lonely voice crying out of the silence of a continent”; Albert Einstein also singled out the Church during the war. After the war, Golda Meir praised the work of the Church, as did the ADL, the World Jewish Congress, and scores of other Jewish organizations.
4) It is factually wrong to say the Vatican archives have “never been seen.” Many scholars have had access. As for Pope Pius XII being “Hitler’s Pope,” it should be noted that John Cornwell, the ex-seminarian who originated this term, retracted it years ago. So why does “The 700 Club” continue to cite it?
It could be counterfeited. But we would be able to spot that in a NY minute!
He was my dog, but I moved to the Armed Forces Retirement Home a couple years ago and let another family enjoy his company. He was "My dog, Spot". I have used some other pics of him on other threads. He is now called "Spoticus".
Now, he is a world famous member of the Facebook community with almost 1200 friends. That family made the page as a way for me to still be part of his life, and it got interesting after that!
I've never been to Israel but it's been on my wish list with Ireland - as they are my roots, one spiritual and one psychical and since the spiritual trumps over everything - you know the first one I will be visiting.
Oh! Thanks. You sent another picture of ‘Spot’ with his little friend!. I had a friend in my teenage years who had a Dalmatian and his name was ‘Spotty’. Where ever he went, there was ‘Spotty’.
How compassionate of Spoticus’ new owners to have a facebook page for you to still enjoy him/his life. I’m not on facebook, otherwise I’d be his 1201 new friend! Thanks for sharing.
THANK YOU for your service to our country. I only wish our veterans were held in high esteem - they are the true patriots of our country and we owe them a lot more than what the gov’t allows. However, your reward will be eternal, not temporary.
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NO...I Sadly, Did Not Find Her Many Aunts And Uncles And Cousins...ALL WERE LOST IN THE HOLOCAUST!
However...The Living GOD Of Abraham, Isaac And Jacob (Israel) And Yeshua/Jesus My Risen Messiah...KNOW Exactly Where They Are!!
Many Were Born Again Jewish Believers In YESHUA!
My GreatGrand Mother, My GrandMother, My Mother...And Their Spouses; And My Husband and I...ARE ALL Born Again Believers...SO ON THAT GLORIOUS DAY OF THE LORD!! WHAT A GREAT REUNION...WE WILL HAVE IN HEAVEN!!
Baruch HaShem! That Is Hebrew Meaning...BLESS THE NAME (Of THE LORD!). Amen And Amen!!
Here's A Special Prophecy For YOU...When The Time Is Right Our LORD WILL OPEN EVERY DOOR! And Give To You The DESIRES Of Your Heart To WALK IN HIS FOOT STEPS IN HIS HOLY LAND...ISRAEL!!
GOD BLESS YOU!
Simcha7.
Amen,awesome!
And I will be there - so I will meet them and you! What a blessing it is that you know they are saved - so evil didn't do anything to them - they will live eternally with their Messiah forever along with the crowns they will receive - while he burns! Talk about sowing and reaping exactly what he did to God's people! Perhaps hitler will be looking up begging for some water and see the HOLOCAUST victims all glorious in white - praising God and surrounded by family!
Now you got me excited thinking of the glorious Day of The Lord! All this dung doesn't matter - we have JESUS forever!
Baruch HaShem! Amen! and Amen!
When The Time Is Right Our LORD WILL OPEN EVERY DOOR! And Give To You The DESIRES Of Your Heart To WALK IN HIS FOOT STEPS IN HIS HOLY LAND...ISRAEL!!
Thank you! And I receive it and I take it as confirmation!! That 'desire of my heart' has already been spoken of! PRAISE GOD! Baruch HaShem!
Hi cutie! Would you like to make a new friend? His picture is on this thread like yours is. It seems like destiny that you meet!
https://www.facebook.com/spoticus.moura
Please do not make me the topic of this thread. We have aleady been warned by the Religion Moderator. Thany you
There's the first and very large error right there...That statement couldn't be further from the truth...
Between the resurrection and the Ascension Jesus commanded the Apostles to teach all nations all that He had taught them. He told them that He would send a helper (the Paraclete) and that He would be with them all days until the end of the age. It is preposterous to conclude that this commission would be fulfilled by the Apostles writing the New Testament.
Do you have any idea who Jesus was speaking to??? Jesus was speaking to apostles and disciples...No one denies that the disciples would preach what the apostles wrote to the end of the age...But, they were only to preach what was written...
What's the end of the age...You guys don't have a clue what the 'age' is let alone knowing when it will end...The 'age' could have ended before the church even got off the ground had the Jews accepted Jesus as their Messiah...The 'age' had the potential to end while all the apostles were still alive...
It is even more preposterous to believe that only four of the Apostles had obeyed God and not a single written word from the others.
How could it be preposterous when that's exactly what happened...And from what we do have, we know that it was/is sufficient enough that we can learn everything we need to know to get to heaven...Everything...Nothing else is needed...And anything different is a false gospel...
It is absolutely bizarre to presume that the Church Jesus founded would have been a teaching Church for it's first fifty years and then only a librarian until the Paraousia.
Now there you go with that pagan philosophy...You lost me there...The church still teaches but it only teaches what was written in the first Century...There is nothing more to need or to know...
Over centuries and generations languages and circumstances change and someone must answer when every person who truly seeks to know the Word inevitably asks; "What did Jesus mean?".
Jesus never changes nor does his written word... Bible translators don't bother with questions like, what did Jesus mean...They just translate the words...
But I have asked that question many times...And it will likely shock you to know where Christians get their answers...
1Jn 2:25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
Are you promised eternal life??? I am...
1Jn 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
And how do we know the the 'Godly' man is teaching us correctly??? Just blindly follow a priest or a minister??? Nope...
1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
Can your religion prove that anything came from God outside of scripture??? Absolutely not...
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
and search the scriptures, as the Bereans taught us...
Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Think you have eternal life, or not??? Don't bother with a pagan religion...SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES...Is the fella telling you the truth??? SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES...
As we see every day in this forum there was not a word uttered by Christ that has not been met with a great number of diverse interpretations, some intelligent and some extremely attractive, but contradicting each other. How are we to know without a teacher?
You can't trust any human teacher...You can only trust the Holy Spirit and put him to the test of scripture...
Even the most ardent Sola Scriptura proponent will concede that they required teacher to teach them to speak a language and a teacher to teach them to read as a prerequisite to encountering the Word.
Of course people need teachers...But when we are learning the words of God, we listen to preachers and teachers AND THEN go to the book that contains every thing we need to learn to gain salvation...The word of God...
tsk...tsk...tsk...Shhhhh...You'll confuse them with more facts...
That's a New Age teaching...It's not bible...
God dwells in everything; the trees, the oceans, the fish, your Chevy Volt,,,,But it ain't bible...And if it ain't bible, it ain't nothing...
Those aren't interpretations...Those are false teachings created by twisting, perverting, adding to and deleting scripture...And then making things up over the Centuries and calling it 'tradition'...
Those aren't interpretations...Those are false teachings created by twisting, perverting, adding to and deleting scripture...And then making things up over the Centuries and calling it 'tradition'...
Does the Bible teach people to adopt the writing style of an inbred moron? Just wondering, I certainly wasn't commenting about you.
This guy couldn't be more wrong...In every thing he said...The Catholic Church is NOT the Body of Christ...It can't possibly be since by that religion's admission, there are non Christians that are Catholics...What was that, 'the road to hell is paved with Catholic bishops, or something like that...There is no one in the Body of Christ who are not deemed Holy...
This guy claims that the most important thing in a person's life is the Catholic religion, since it is the body of Christ, which it isn't...Not once in the scriptures is anyone told to appeal to the body of Christ for salvation...Therefore it is NOT the most important thing...
The most important thing is not the body, but the Head, Jesus Christ...You can't get into the body without being put there by the Head...The body can not put you into the body...
I must apologize. I confused your posting history with that of another. I ask your forgiveness.
Peace be to you
If you're trying to compete with Jeff Foxworthy, don't give up your day job...
God uses all kinds of people to get his word out...So I could be a moron, but I'm not inbred...And that's fine too, I can be a moron for God...
But it could be far worse...I could have been an intellectual Catholic moron...Well not really, Jesus got to me first...
"This is my body..." was written by Matthew, Mark, Luke and Paul and affirmed in great detail in John 6:22-59. That we are disagreeing on the meaning only serves to reinforce my point. When one carries anger in their heart they carry the stain of original sin and have not been washed by the blood of the lamb.
I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another." - John 13:34
Peace with you
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