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To: Steely Tom

RE: Because the Koran commands them to do so?

If this is so, why then do the majority NOT embrace Religious and Ideological Warfare?


3 posted on 04/22/2013 1:09:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
"why then do the majority NOT embrace Religious and Ideological Warfare?"

Prove it.

I know of no data suggesting Muslims DON'T embrace violence in the name of their religion.

5 posted on 04/22/2013 1:10:27 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Leftists' favorite Mass Murderer: Kermit Gosnell)
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To: SeekAndFind
If this is so, why then do the majority NOT embrace Religious and Ideological Warfare?

How do you know they don't?

Dzhokhar and Tamerlan were part of the majority. They just got tired of waiting, couldn't hold their bloodlust in anymore.

Prove me wrong.

9 posted on 04/22/2013 1:12:30 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: SeekAndFind
the majority DO embrace it -- 10% are jihadis, another 50% support this actively and another 35% passively. Ask any Moslem if those who insult the prophet should be beheaded and they'll hem and haw.

The 5% who disagree are BAD Moslems

10 posted on 04/22/2013 1:13:00 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: SeekAndFind
Keeping in mind that Indonesian Muslims are always pointed to as the most pacifist of Muslims in the world, I bring to you:

A poll by Gallup showed that a "significant majority" of Muslim Indonesians define the term to mean "sacrificing one's life for the sake of Islam/God/a just cause" or "fighting against the opponents of Islam".

(Emphasis Added)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad

11 posted on 04/22/2013 1:13:25 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Leftists' favorite Mass Murderer: Kermit Gosnell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because to take up arms and go get yourself killed is not an easy thing to do. It takes a special kind of crazy to do it.


13 posted on 04/22/2013 1:13:40 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't think the majority of them don't embrace violence and religious warfare. Taquiyya (as I understand the concept) commands Muslims to lie to infidels in order to advance Islam, so it stands to reason that they could all be pretending to be little passive, peace-loving sheep, when they're really knife-sharpening wolves, wearing a sheep skin suit.

I don't trust them one iota. I'll err on the side of caution.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

17 posted on 04/22/2013 1:16:09 PM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! www.7161.com/streamer.cfm?dt_track_id=21356)
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To: SeekAndFind
If this is so, why then do the majority NOT embrace Religious and Ideological Warfare?

Because they are not very good muslims. The extremists are merely doing as commanded.

18 posted on 04/22/2013 1:16:14 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why do you assume they don’t?


21 posted on 04/22/2013 1:17:02 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SeekAndFind

Here are a few armloads of data to back up the proposition that Muslims believe in murdering people for their religion:

Terrorism

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a “legitimate target”.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terrorism) for further statistics on Islamic terror.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Opinion-Polls.htm


22 posted on 04/22/2013 1:17:08 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Leftists' favorite Mass Murderer: Kermit Gosnell)
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To: SeekAndFind

a majority of my brethren (Catholic) ignore the churches edicts. It appears the majority of muzzies do the same.

A majority of (self-identified( Catholics don’t go to church regularly, a majority of Jews don’t go to synogogue regularly. However, those Catholics and Jews who become more religious are not more likely to become violent. The opposite is true with muslims.


24 posted on 04/22/2013 1:17:45 PM PDT by stop_fascism (Love your country, but never trust its government - R.A. Heinlein)
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To: SeekAndFind
If this is so, why then do the majority NOT embrace Religious and Ideological Warfare?

They do when they feel they have sufficient numbers. A few superstars in their death cult go it alone, like the Boston Chechens.

25 posted on 04/22/2013 1:17:47 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: SeekAndFind
If this is so, why then do the majority NOT embrace Religious and Ideological Warfare?

And where do you get the idea that they don't? How many Germans supported killing Jews compared to how many Germans actually killed Jews?

Lacking the means or will to kill you doesn't equate to someone not wanting you dead.

30 posted on 04/22/2013 1:22:18 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind
If this is so, why then do the majority NOT embrace Religious and Ideological Warfare?

Same reasons why Christians and Jews don't always follow the Commandments, or Americans the Constitution. Laziness; inertia; regression towards the mean; selfishness; cluelessness, etc. Also, their heirarchy still demands that the Koran be learned in Arabic; whereas the majority of muslims in the world do not speak Arabic. It's as if the Church still demanded that all Christians read the Bible in the original Hebrew and Greek. How many would do so, and how many would just take the priesthood's word for it?

Thus, the imams are running their religion; they unbelieve under threat of death; therefore they go along to get along and try to avoid trouble, like most people. It's their theocratic leadership that is the danger for us.

36 posted on 04/22/2013 1:27:14 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Don't believe any rumors in Washington, DC until they are officially denied.)
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To: SeekAndFind
If this is so, why then do the majority NOT embrace Religious and Ideological Warfare?

Are you on some Island in the South Pacific?
37 posted on 04/22/2013 1:28:36 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian Black Man!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“If this is so, why then do the majority NOT embrace Religious and Ideological Warfare?”


No proof whatsoever that they are in the majority or even exist as a significant minority.

Their silence or dancing in the streets after 9/11 speaks volumes.

They support Jihad via their pocket book and work against us using our own citizens who refuse to let the last few decades give them a clue about this cancer on society.

Look at any country where this fake religion, cult actually, runs the show and you will see what is in store for us should we not fight back immediately.

They are in this administration and their numbers will only increase so we must act now.

A good Muslim, by definition CANNOT be a good American.

The US Constitution and the Koran cannot coexist. They are like matter and anti-matter.

A free society cannot exist unless it is free of Islam.


63 posted on 04/22/2013 2:00:19 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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