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1 posted on 04/22/2013 6:27:15 AM PDT by piperpilot
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To: piperpilot

Bravo!


2 posted on 04/22/2013 6:29:31 AM PDT by laweeks
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As for me? Proud ex-Episcopalian since 1980.


3 posted on 04/22/2013 6:30:17 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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I’m praying that he spends the rest of his life in acute pain.


4 posted on 04/22/2013 6:30:19 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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To: piperpilot

A lot of churches teach “hate the sin, love the sinner.”

At times it is difficult or, as in this case, impossible.

But I a pretty sure that is the driving theology.


5 posted on 04/22/2013 6:30:22 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (LBJ declared war on poverty and lost. Barack Obama declared war on prosperity and won. /csmusaret)
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Exactly the sort of thing that drove me to leave the Episcopal Church several years ago.


6 posted on 04/22/2013 6:31:10 AM PDT by Zippo44 (Liberal: another word for poltroon.)
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Matthew 5:44


9 posted on 04/22/2013 6:34:28 AM PDT by bad company (There are no illegal guns, just undocumented firearms.)
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“‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. "

Revelation 3:15-16

10 posted on 04/22/2013 6:34:52 AM PDT by PGR88
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Hate the sin, love the sinner.

Praying for the dead is in the Bible, of course it is in Maccabees II so it’s a Catholic thing I guess.

And the Lord’s prayer: Forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us.

Forgiving others for their sins is a hard thing to do, but we must do it.


11 posted on 04/22/2013 6:35:15 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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How unbiblical can you get.

Not trying to be insensitive, but what is the reason for praying for dead folks?

If they died with faith, they are alive with Christ.

If they died in unbelief they have already been judged and are cast out.

Not sure where Scripture teaches to pray for the dead anyway...

13 posted on 04/22/2013 6:37:10 AM PDT by Gamecock ("Ultimately, Jesus died to save us from the wrath of God." —R.C. Sproul)
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Christan's should be praying for the surviving bomber's salvation.
14 posted on 04/22/2013 6:37:20 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in thee shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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Dunno. Don’t like the Episcopalians much; my dad left them for Anglicans when they went all weird. But I pray for God’s mercy and grace for others, just as I pray for it for myself.


16 posted on 04/22/2013 6:38:29 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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This praying for the dead stuff comes from the book of 2nd maccabees also known as the apocrypha. If you read the actual text it is pretty clear that it doesn’t belong. It is out of place and is most certainly written by another author.


18 posted on 04/22/2013 6:40:51 AM PDT by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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I wasn’t in the head of #1 when he passed away so I don’t know his soul. I also do believe in Purgatory where souls wait and can be helped by my prayers. So theologically, I’m okay with praying for the soul of the older brother. I’m also okay with praying for the younger brother. I think of the man who tried to kill John Paul II. Hearts can change. He’s in a Jewish hospital. The caregivers I have known in my life would be caring for him the same whether he were someone’s aging mother or a terrorist so I assume that he is getting gentle care. Even if he is mute and paralyzed the rest of his life or maybe because he is, he may come to Christ. I also think of the Termoline in The Last Battle by CS Lewis. He was confused as to why he was in Heaven. So were those around him but he was there.


20 posted on 04/22/2013 6:42:54 AM PDT by Mercat
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Well if he’s dead, no amount of praying is going to help him.


21 posted on 04/22/2013 6:43:25 AM PDT by mountn man (ATTITUDE- The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It.)
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You just brought up an old memory of my childhood. During the Vietnam war, our family (I was a young girl) attended a Christmas service at the Episcopal church in which we were members. The minister asked us to bow our heads and pray for the “enemy”. My father gathered up our family and we walked out. (Never to return.)


22 posted on 04/22/2013 6:44:54 AM PDT by biss5577
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Don’t feel bad. At my (now former) house or worship my wife and I had to sit through an attack on Mitch McConnell. We are now looking for a new house of worship.


24 posted on 04/22/2013 6:45:24 AM PDT by pabianice
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To be fair, in theory, just in dying moments he could have felt true sorrow for his actions. [I wouldn’t bet the farm on it though. I hope the minister said something like, “let us pray that what’s-his-face-was-really-sorry-for-being-a-terrorist-schmuck.”


26 posted on 04/22/2013 6:49:27 AM PDT by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: piperpilot

Just KUMBAYAH again! The definition of which is: naively optimistic views of the world and human nature.[


28 posted on 04/22/2013 6:50:23 AM PDT by golf lover (goingf)
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It’s proper for a pastor, priest, etc. to encourage Christians to pray for the repentance of the living terrorist. It would also be proper to preach about the false religion called Islam, and the fact that its followers will be lost without Jesus Christ.


31 posted on 04/22/2013 6:56:59 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ( (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization))
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35 posted on 04/22/2013 7:02:54 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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