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11 Reasons the Authority of Christianity Is Centered on St. Peter and Rome
stpeterslist ^ | December 19, 2012

Posted on 01/06/2013 3:56:49 PM PST by NYer

Bl. John Henry Newman said it best: “To be deep in history is to cease to be Protestant.” History paints an overwhelming picture of St. Peter’s apostolic ministry in Rome and this is confirmed by a multitude of different sources within the Early Church. Catholic Encyclopedia states, “In opposition to this distinct and unanimous testimony of early Christendom, some few Protestant historians have attempted in recent times to set aside the residence and death of Peter at Rome as legendary. These attempts have resulted in complete failure.” Protestantism as a whole seeks to divorce Christianity from history by rending Gospel message out of its historical context as captured by our Early Church Fathers. One such target of these heresies is to devalue St. Peter and to twist the authority of Rome into a historical mishap within Christianity. To wit, the belief has as its end the ultimate end of all Catholic and Protestant dialogue – who has authority in Christianity?

 

Why is it important to defend the tradition of St. Peter and Rome?
The importance of establishing St. Peter’s ministry in Rome may be boiled down to authority and more specifically the historic existence and continuance of the Office of Vicar held by St. Peter. To understand why St. Peter was important and what authority was given to him by Christ SPL has composed two lists – 10 Biblical Reasons Christ Founded the Papacy and 13 Reasons St. Peter Was the Prince of the Apostles.

The rest of the list is cited from the Catholic Encyclopedia on St. Peter and represents only a small fraction of the evidence set therein.

 

The Apostolic Primacy of St. Peter and Rome

It is an indisputably established historical fact that St. Peter laboured in Rome during the last portion of his life, and there ended his earthly course by martyrdom. As to the duration of his Apostolic activity in the Roman capital, the continuity or otherwise of his residence there, the details and success of his labours, and the chronology of his arrival and death, all these questions are uncertain, and can be solved only on hypotheses more or less well-founded. The essential fact is that Peter died at Rome: this constitutes the historical foundation of the claim of the Bishops of Rome to the Apostolic Primacy of Peter.

St. Peter’s residence and death in Rome are established beyond contention as historical facts by a series of distinct testimonies extending from the end of the first to the end of the second centuries, and issuing from several lands.

 

1. The Gospel of St. John

That the manner, and therefore the place of his death, must have been known in widely extended Christian circles at the end of the first century is clear from the remark introduced into the Gospel of St. John concerning Christ’s prophecy that Peter was bound to Him and would be led whither he would not — “And this he said, signifying by what death he should glorify God” (John 21:18-19, see above). Such a remark presupposes in the readers of the Fourth Gospel a knowledge of the death of Peter.

 

2. Salutations, from Babylon

St. Peter’s First Epistle was written almost undoubtedly from Rome, since the salutation at the end reads: “The church that is in Babylon, elected together with you, saluteth you: and so doth my son Mark” (5:13). Babylon must here be identified with the Roman capital; since Babylon on the Euphrates, which lay in ruins, or New Babylon (Seleucia) on the Tigris, or the Egyptian Babylon near Memphis, or Jerusalem cannot be meant, the reference must be to Rome, the only city which is called Babylon elsewhere in ancient Christian literature (Revelation 17:5; 18:10; “Oracula Sibyl.”, V, verses 143 and 159, ed. Geffcken, Leipzig, 1902, 111).

 

3. Gospel of St. Mark

From Bishop Papias of Hierapolis and Clement of Alexandria, who both appeal to the testimony of the old presbyters (i.e., the disciples of the Apostles), we learn that Mark wrote his Gospel in Rome at the request of the Roman Christians, who desired a written memorial of the doctrine preached to them by St. Peter and his disciples (Eusebius, Church History II.15, 3.40, 6.14); this is confirmed by Irenaeus (Against Heresies 3.1). In connection with this information concerning the Gospel of St. Mark, Eusebius, relying perhaps on an earlier source, says that Peter described Rome figuratively as Babylon in his First Epistle.

 

4. Testimony of Pope St. Clement I

Another testimony concerning the martyrdom of Peter and Paul is supplied by Clement of Rome in his Epistle to the Corinthians (written about A.D. 95-97), wherein he says (chapter 5):

“Through zeal and cunning the greatest and most righteous supports [of the Church] have suffered persecution and been warred to death. Let us place before our eyes the good Apostles — St. Peter, who in consequence of unjust zeal, suffered not one or two, but numerous miseries, and, having thus given testimony (martyresas), has entered the merited place of glory”.

He then mentions Paul and a number of elect, who were assembled with the others and suffered martyrdom “among us” (en hemin, i.e., among the Romans, the meaning that the expression also bears in chapter 4). He is speaking undoubtedly, as the whole passage proves, of the Neronian persecution, and thus refers the martyrdom of Peter and Paul to that epoch.

 

5. Testimony of St. Ignatius of Antioch

In his letter written at the beginning of the second century (before 117), while being brought to Rome for martyrdom, the venerable Bishop Ignatius of Antioch endeavours by every means to restrain the Roman Christians from striving for his pardon, remarking: “I issue you no commands, like Peter and Paul: they were Apostles, while I am but a captive” (Epistle to the Romans 4). The meaning of this remark must be that the two Apostles laboured personally in Rome, and with Apostolic authority preached the Gospel there.

 

6. Taught in the Same Place in Italy

Bishop Dionysius of Corinth, in his letter to the Roman Church in the time of Pope Soter (165-74), says:

“You have therefore by your urgent exhortation bound close together the sowing of Peter and Paul at Rome and Corinth. For both planted the seed of the Gospel also in Corinth, and together instructed us, just as they likewise taught in the same place in Italy and at the same time suffered martyrdom” (in Eusebius, Church History II.25).

 

 

7. Rome: Founded by Sts. Peter and Paul

Irenaeus of Lyons, a native of Asia Minor and a disciple of Polycarp of Smyrna (a disciple of St. John), passed a considerable time in Rome shortly after the middle of the second century, and then proceeded to Lyons, where he became bishop in 177; he described the Roman Church as the most prominent and chief preserver of the Apostolic tradition, as “the greatest and most ancient church, known by all, founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious Apostles, Peter and Paul” (Against Heresies 3.3; cf. 3.1). He thus makes use of the universally known and recognized fact of the Apostolic activity of Peter and Paul in Rome, to find therein a proof from tradition against the heretics.

 

8. St. Peter Announced the Word of God in Rome

In his “Hypotyposes” (Eusebius, Church History IV.14), Clement of Alexandria, teacher in the catechetical school of that city from about 190, says on the strength of the tradition of the presbyters: “After Peter had announced the Word of God in Rome and preached the Gospel in the spirit of God, the multitude of hearers requested Mark, who had long accompanied Peter on all his journeys, to write down what the Apostles had preached to them” (see above).

 

9. Rome: Where Authority is Ever Within Reach

Like Irenaeus, Tertullian appeals, in his writings against heretics, to the proof afforded by the Apostolic labours of Peter and Paul in Rome of the truth of ecclesiastical tradition. In De Præscriptione 36, he says:

“If thou art near Italy, thou hast Rome where authority is ever within reach. How fortunate is this Church for which the Apostles have poured out their whole teaching with their blood, where Peter has emulated the Passion of the Lord, where Paul was crowned with the death of John.”

In Scorpiace 15, he also speaks of Peter’s crucifixion. “The budding faith Nero first made bloody in Rome. There Peter was girded by another, since he was bound to the cross”. As an illustration that it was immaterial with what water baptism is administered, he states in his book (On Baptism 5) that there is “no difference between that with which John baptized in the Jordan and that with which Peter baptized in the Tiber”; and against Marcion he appeals to the testimony of the Roman Christians, “to whom Peter and Paul have bequeathed the Gospel sealed with their blood” (Against Marcion 4.5).

 

10. Come to the Vatican and See for Yourself

The Roman, Caius, who lived in Rome in the time of Pope Zephyrinus (198-217), wrote in his “Dialogue with Proclus” (in Eusebius, Church History II.25) directed against the Montanists: “But I can show the trophies of the Apostles. If you care to go to the Vatican or to the road to Ostia, thou shalt find the trophies of those who have founded this Church”.

By the trophies (tropaia) Eusebius understands the graves of the Apostles, but his view is opposed by modern investigators who believe that the place of execution is meant. For our purpose it is immaterial which opinion is correct, as the testimony retains its full value in either case. At any rate the place of execution and burial of both were close together; St. Peter, who was executed on the Vatican, received also his burial there. Eusebius also refers to “the inscription of the names of Peter and Paul, which have been preserved to the present day on the burial-places there” (i.e. at Rome).

 

11. Ancient Epigraphic Memorial

There thus existed in Rome an ancient epigraphic memorial commemorating the death of the Apostles. The obscure notice in the Muratorian Fragment (“Lucas optime theofile conprindit quia sub praesentia eius singula gerebantur sicuti et semote passionem petri evidenter declarat”, ed. Preuschen, Tübingen, 1910, p. 29) also presupposes an ancient definite tradition concerning Peter’s death in Rome.

The apocryphal Acts of St. Peter and the Acts of Sts. Peter and Paul likewise belong to the series of testimonies of the death of the two Apostles in Rome.


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To: terycarl
I think that the Lutherans might teach that

Real Lutherans don't teach that. Fakes, who cares they have bigger problems.

1,201 posted on 01/11/2013 7:01:47 PM PST by xone
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To: metmom
The key thing here is the word *remembrance*.

Nope It is not. If you diagram that sentence, it is an imperative sentence and the subject,(understood) is "you", the verb is "do" and the SUBJECT of the sentence is "this" the whole sentence could have read "you do this" and it would have been a complete sentence. In remembrance of Me merely gives the reason for the action...unnecessary in the sentence. (4th grade, Mother of Good counsel School) Milwaukee, Wis.

1,202 posted on 01/11/2013 7:07:32 PM PST by terycarl
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To: Lera
A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons. [...] it was an offering for HERSELF

Brilliant, Lera! And inescapable...

1,203 posted on 01/11/2013 7:07:32 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Syncro
Jesus doesn't inhabit the Catholic cracker, he doesn't have to.

He doesn't because He dwells within the heart of the believer.

John 14:23 Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.

John 17:20-23 20 “I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, 23 I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me.

Ephesians 3:14-19 For this reason I bow my knees before the Father, 15 from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named, 16 that according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, 17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith—that you, being rooted and grounded in love, 18 may have strength to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth, 19 and to know the love of Christ that surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

Colossians 1:27 To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

Galatians 2:20 20 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

1,204 posted on 01/11/2013 7:14:51 PM PST by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: roamer_1
Brilliant, Lera! And inescapable

and purely symbolic...many sacrifices and other such rites are offered out of respect for tradition, not necessarily out of need. Mary did not need to ask for anything as far as forgiveness is concerned, she was born and remained without sin (Jesus was her kid....how hard could it be??) :)

1,205 posted on 01/11/2013 7:15:55 PM PST by terycarl
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To: roamer_1; Lera
"..And inescapable.."

Ya reckon?

1,206 posted on 01/11/2013 7:16:14 PM PST by mitch5501 ("make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things ye shall never fall")
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To: CynicalBear
"Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Mary was 'under the law' so was a sinful person as 'all' have sinned.

Galatians 4:4-5, 'But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.'"

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The term "under the law" does NOT refer to whether a person has sinned or not. It refers to those born under Judaism and the Mosaic Law, which Jesus Christ freed all of us from. See these other texts from Paul which clearly illumine that point:

Romans 7:6

But now we are discharged from the law, dead to that which held us captive, so that we serve not under the old written code but in the new life of the Spirit.

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1 Corinthians 9:20

To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews; to those under the law I became as one under the law—though not being myself under the law—that I might win those under the law.

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Now, when it says "all have sinned", do you think that includes Jesus, or that Paul by mistake made a horrendous and embarrassing blunder in his writing, or do you think that Paul assumed his readers were smart enough and discerning enough so that he did not need to add, "...except for..."?

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The nonsense of “if scripture doesn’t say it didn’t happen then we can say it did” is exactly what the Mormons, Muslims and other cults claim.

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If I, or FReepers "Joe-Schmoo" or "Suzy-Snow" claim they are the FReeper "CynicalBear", then that IS nonsense, but if FReeper "CynicalBear" claims to be FReeper "CynicalBear", that is simply the truth.

By the way, the Muslims and the Mormons and the other cults did NOT tell you that those two "Books" of the Bible you quoted from (Romans and Galatians) were part of the Bible, and the Bible itself did NOT tell you that those two "Books" were part of the Bible -- the Catholic Church told you that those two "Books", "Romans" and "Galatians" were part of the Bible.    I think it is good that you at least listen to the Holy-Spirit-guided declaration by the Catholic Church on that specific matter, and do not carelessly say, "Oh, that was just nonsense when the Catholic Church officially declared what writings belong in the New Testament".

(I have to go back to work now, but I'll try to check in again when I get a chance. Take care.)

1,207 posted on 01/11/2013 7:18:47 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15))
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To: daniel1212; terycarl; roamer_1; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; smvoice; HarleyD; ...
At best that is an argument from silence,....

The best thing to shoot that pathetic argument down is that Adam and Eve weren't BORN at all.

1,208 posted on 01/11/2013 7:19:04 PM PST by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: terycarl
many sacrifices and other such rites are offered out of respect for tradition, not necessarily out of need.

LOL! Is that how it is in the Roman church? How much then are you willing to cast aside in order to protect what is ultimately just another 'needless' tradition?

1,209 posted on 01/11/2013 7:32:03 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: CynicalBear
Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book . . .

By 'book', he is referring to the Revelation - not the Bible that Jesus taught from.

1,210 posted on 01/11/2013 7:37:11 PM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: terycarl
oh, under appearance now huh?

That's a little closer, but no cigar.

And a little pulling back there with saying "Catholics teach" instead of vehemently stating it as if it is 100% true indisputable Catholic dogma. Good.

Read this in it's entirety, it could be edifying:

 I doubt that transubstantiated is even in the Greek, Hebrew or Aramaic languages. Or Pidgin.

And no wonder, the whole scenario was made up many years later.

I have taken communion from a Catholic priest before, and it just tasted like an unleavened cracker.

Jesus took some bread and broke it and HANDED it to one of his fellow diners at what is called The Last Supper.

And He said, Take and eat, this is my body, do this in remembrance of me.

It was still bread, still tasted like bread.

It was NOT his literal body obviously.

If it was, it would have tasted like flesh.

And it wasn't magically turned into his body. (Nor was his body changed into a big loaf of bread)

It's a mystery I know, kinda like the Trinity.

It IS his body, but it is still bread.

Jesus doesn't inhabit the Catholic cracker, he doesn't have to.

We take the bread and wine and say, This is your body, broken for me and we take it and eat it.

I guess it is magical in a sense, because it is bread AND His body, just the body part isn't literal

Oh, and again: Adam and Eve were NOT born, they were CREATED!
1,211 posted on 01/11/2013 7:46:35 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart (The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: terycarl
So after the consecration at the Last Supper, Jesus admonished the disciples to "do THIS in remembrance of Me"

Very Good!

He took and broke off a piece of bread and gave it to one of his followers and said "This is my body, take and eat."

It wasn't literal flesh, but to be done in remembrance of Him. It remained bread, what a beautiful mystery!

1,212 posted on 01/11/2013 7:52:47 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart (The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: metmom
Yes all very true

Thanks metmom

1,213 posted on 01/11/2013 7:54:32 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart (The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: roamer_1; terycarl
many sacrifices and other such rites are offered out of respect for tradition, not necessarily out of need.

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LOL! Is that how it is in the Roman church? How much then are you willing to cast aside in order to protect what is ultimately just another 'needless' tradition?

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I saw your post right before heading back to work, and felt compelled to give you a quick response.

When the Bible (Matthew 3) says that John the Baptist was baptizing for the "confession of sins" and "repentence", and Jesus insisted on being baptized by John, was that because Jesus had to confess any sins, or repent of anything?    Did Jesus "need" to be baptized, or was there another purpose for his choosing to do that "needless" action, and be baptized by John the Baptist?

1,214 posted on 01/11/2013 7:58:10 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15))
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To: roamer_1; terycarl
many sacrifices and other such rites are offered out of respect for tradition, not necessarily out of need.

LOL! Is that how it is in the Roman church? How much then are you willing to cast aside in order to protect what is ultimately just another 'needless' tradition?

I have figured out that the Catholic Tradition is like Another Gospel, ala the LDS Book of Mormon.

Like the LDS, the Catholic Other Gospel is more important and more correct than the Bible.

1,215 posted on 01/11/2013 7:59:06 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart (The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: metmom

Thank you for those uplifting scriptures metmom!


1,216 posted on 01/11/2013 8:03:03 PM PST by Syncro ("So?" - Andrew Breitbart (The King of All Media RIP Feb 1, 1969 – Mar 1, 2012)
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To: Heart-Rest; roamer_1
When the Bible (Matthew 3) says that John the Baptist was baptizing for the "confession of sins" and "repentence", and Jesus insisted on being baptized by John, was that because Jesus had to confess any sins, or repent of anything? Did Jesus "need" to be baptized, or was there another purpose for his choosing to do that "needless" action, and be baptized by John the Baptist?

Jesus did not "need" to be baptized and yes there was another purpose for Jesus being baptized, so it wasn't a "needless" action.

John himself explains why he came to baptize.....

John 1:29-34 29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is he of whom I said, ‘After me comes a man who ranks before me, because he was before me.’ 31 I myself did not know him, but for this purpose I came baptizing with water, that he might be revealed to Israel.”

32 And John bore witness: “I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him. 33 I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.”

1,217 posted on 01/11/2013 8:08:55 PM PST by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom
Jesus did not "need" to be baptized and yes there was another purpose for Jesus being baptized, so it wasn't a "needless" action.

I know -- that's why I put those two words in quotes!

Likewise, the sacrifices at the temple were also done for a purpose -- to fulfill the requirements of the laws of the religion Mary (and Jesus) were born into. (Remember, this was long before Jesus fully built His new religion, i.e. His Church.)

Just to respond quickly to another post you had -- "born" was obviously not the key word that poster was using relating to Adam and Eve. It merely signified "brought to life" in a sinless state -- focusing on the word "born" reminds me of Bill Clinton focusing on what the meaning of the word "is" is.    :-)

(There was a larger point behind their post, and that's what should have been addressed -- not the term "born" -- that's just a frivolous distraction.)

(By the way, metmom, did you get my response to you about your "Biblegateway" New Testament search/word count for the words "Peter" and "Paul", where I told you I put in "Holy Spirit" into your search link, and it came up with far fewer "occurrences" than both Peter and Paul.    I do believe the Holy Spirit is far more important for the Church than both those guys, so I wouldn't put too much stock in those word counts.)    :-)

Until next time, take care.

1,218 posted on 01/11/2013 8:39:05 PM PST by Heart-Rest ("The Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth." (1 Timothy 3:15))
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To: Cronos; count-your-change; CynicalBear; metmom; Elsie
Well, as usual, Martin Luther gets trotted out whenever anything he might have said can be used to further the Catholic Church. It might be a good idea to make up your collective minds on whether you like the guy or hate him. But, also as usual, the quote is used without any context. So, to give some of that context and let people make up their own minds, I offer from http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/search?q=luther+and+the+keys+to+the+kingdom:

The good thing about this popular quote is it's often given with a correct reference (the "5 year" comment above though is incorrect). The comment comes from Luther's 1530 treatise, The Keys found in LW 40: 320-376. The quote is on pages 365-366. Luther's underlying assumption is that the keys have indeed been given to Peter, but also to the entire church as well. For Luther, the text doesn't support the foundation of the papacy. For Luther, the keys have been given to the church, and the rock of Matthew 16 is Christ.

Pre-Context

The treatise opens with the following:

The noble saying of Christ to Peter in Matt. 16[:19] and 18[:18], “Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven,” etc., has been cited. From this quotation they took the word “to bind” and twisted its interpretation so as to make it mean “to command” and “to forbid,” or to make a law and commandment for Christendom. By this kind of reasoning they give power to the pope and boast that he has the authority to bind with laws the soul and conscience of a Christian so that one must obey him in this matter, on penalty of the loss of everlasting bliss and under the threat of eternal damnation. On the other hand, he who is obedient to the pope in this matter shall be saved. To this end they have perverted all quotations of Scripture about obedience and disobedience. By such insolent interpretations of Christ’s word the whole world has been frightened and bullied until everybody has been cornered and made the victim of human doctrine. Well, then, we want to examine and place such an interpretation before the judgment seat of Christ, that is, before his own Word, comparing the one with the other. [LW 40:324]

Luther unpacks this throughout the entire treatise. The focus is on the abuse of papal power, and the non-biblical application of "the keys". Luther states, "the keys of the pope are not keys but husks and shells of the keys" [LW 40:349].

What kind of a church is the pope’s church? It is an uncertain, vacillating and tottering church. Indeed, it is a deceitful, lying church, doubting and unbelieving, without God’s Word. For the pope with his wrong keys teaches his church to doubt and to be uncertain. If it is a vacillating church, then it is not the church of faith, for the latter is founded upon a rock, and the gates of hell cannot prevail against it [Matt. 16:18]. If it is not the church of faith, then it is not the Christian church, but it must be an unchristian, antichristian, and faithless church which destroys and ruins the real, holy, Christian church. [LW 40:347]

Here Luther states Christ's church is founded upon a rock. Is the rock the papacy? Have they been given the keys?

From all this one can gather that the pope really never bound or loosed any person, neither excommunicated nor freed from excommunication anyone. All his actions are nothing but beating the air and shadowboxing. And it is evident that nobody has so little claim to the keys as he who boasts the most about possessing them. All along he has been exhibiting them in his escutcheon, and painted them upon the wall. And, tell me, how can he possess the keys since he neither possesses nor tolerates the Word of God? Truly where the Word of God is not found the keys do not remain either. The keys want to be where God’s Word and the church are, or else they are no keys. Christ has shared the keys with the pope in a truly fine fashion. He retains the true keys, and leaves to the pope the painted ones. The latter he may place in his escutcheon or hang on the wall. They have no place or space in the church of Christ [LW 40:362].

What I have said of the abuse of the keys I have said in the simplest manner possible. Otherwise, if I had wanted to be angry and seek revenge, it would have sounded quite differently. Let him who desires to be a Christian make up his mind to think nothing of the pope’s keys. Let him be loyal to the first two real keys of Christ and his church which do not make laws and sell for money as do the first two keys of the pope [LW 40:363].

Immediate Context

Luther tackles the question of whether binding and loosing in heaven and on earth are two different things:

Now let us talk a little about the real basis and true nature of the keys. Christ says, “Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven” [Matt. 18:18]. Notice that assuredly, yes assuredly, it shall be bound and loosed what we bind and loose on earth. There is no suggestion of any wrong key. He does not say: what I bind and loose in heaven, you shall also bind and loose on earth, as the teachers of the wrong key so foolishly say. How could we find out what God binds and looses in heaven? Never. And the keys would be without purpose and to no avail. Neither does Christ say, you should know what I bind and loose in heaven. Who would and could know that? But he speaks in this fashion, If you bind and loose on earth, I will also bind and loose right along with you in heaven. When you use the keys, I will also. Indeed, if you do it, it shall be done, and it is not necessary that I do it after you. What you bind and loose (I say) I will neither bind nor loose, but it shall be bound and loosed without my doing so. It shall be one single action, mine and yours, not a twofold one. It shall be one and the same key, mine and yours, not a twofold one. While you do your work, mine is already done. When you bind and loose, I have already bound and loosed.

He binds and joins himself to our work. Indeed, he himself commands us to do his own work. Why then, should we make it uncertain or reverse it, pretending he must first bind and loose in heaven? Just as if his binding and loosing in heaven were different from our binding and loosing on earth. Or, as if he had different keys in heaven above from those we have below on earth. He distinctly and clearly states that they are heaven’s keys and not those of the earth. You shall have my keys (he says), and no others. And you shall have them here on earth. Clearly above and besides these keys of heaven, he can have no others which are not to be used in heaven, but above and outside of heaven. What would they bind there? If now they are the keys of heaven, then they are not of two kinds but of one kind only, binding and loosing here on earth and in heaven above [LW 40:364-365].

Luther insists the "binding and loosing" are the very same thing on both heaven and earth. When God's word proclaims a Christian is loosed from their sin, then they are, both in heaven and on earth.

But such ideas regarding two kinds of keys originate in the mistaken notion that God’s Word is not his Word. Because it is spoken through men it is regarded as the word of men. And God is thought of as ’way up there in heaven, very, very far removed from his Word here below. So we stand there and with open mouth stare heavenward and invent still other keys. Yet Christ says very clearly in Matt. 16:19 that he will give the keys to Peter. He does not say he has two kinds of keys, but he gives to Peter the keys he himself has and no others. It is as if he were saying: Why are you staring heavenward in search of my keys? Do you not understand I gave them to Peter? They are indeed the keys of heaven, but they are not found in heaven. I left them on earth. Don’t look for them in heaven or anywhere else except in Peter’s mouth where I have placed them. Peter’s mouth is my mouth, and his tongue is my key case. His office is my office, his binding and loosing are my binding and loosing. His keys are my keys, and I have no others, nor do I know of any others. What they bind that is bound, what they loose is free, just as if there were no other to bind or to loose in heaven or on earth. If there are any other keys in heaven, on earth, or in hell, they do not concern me. I know nothing of them. Whatever they might bind or loose is not my affair. Therefore, don’t concern yourself about it either, and don’t be led astray. I pay attention only to what my Peter binds and looses. I rely on that, and you should do likewise. In so doing you are already bound and loosed as far as I am concerned. For Peter binds and looses in heaven, and nobody else. This is the right way of thinking and speaking of the keys.

Here we have the true significance of the keys. They are an office, a power or command given by God through Christ to all of Christendom for the retaining and remitting of the sins of men. For so Christ says in Matt. 9[:6], “But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority to forgive sins,” and he says to the paralytic, “arise,” etc. And soon thereafter, “When the crowd saw it … they praised God who had given such authority to men” [Matt. 9:8]. Do not allow yourself to be led astray by this Pharisaic babbling by which some deceive themselves, saying, “How can a man forgive sins when he can bestow neither grace nor the Holy Spirit?” Rely on the words of Christ and be assured that God has no other way to forgive sins than through the spoken Word, as he has commanded us. If you do not look for forgiveness through the Word, you will gape toward heaven in vain for grace, or (as they say), for a sense of inner forgiveness [LW 40: 365-366].

From this, some Roman Catholics have concluded Luther is admitting the foundation of the papacy. But in context, Luther is doing no such thing. The keys given to Peter are the forgiveness of sins- the proclamation of the word of God. These are given to Peter, true, but also to the entire church.

Conclusion

There are numerous passages in which Luther comments on Peter and the keys. Here's a few.

Here, Luther admits the keys were given to Peter, but really to the whole Christian church:

It is not necessary for the ordinary man to dispute much about the power of St. Peter or the pope. What is more important is to know how one should use it for salvation. It is true that the keys were given to St. Peter; but not to him personally, but rather to the person of the Christian church. They were actually given to me and to you for the comfort of our consciences. St. Peter, or a priest, is a servant of the keys. The church is the woman and bride, whom he should serve with the power of the keys; just as we see in daily use that the sacrament is administered to all who desire it of the priests [LW 51:59].

I believe that there is forgiveness of sin nowhere else than in this community and that beyond it nothing can help to gain it—no good deeds, no matter how many or how great they might be; and that within this community nothing can invalidate this forgiveness of sin—no matter how gravely and often one may sin; and that such forgiveness continues as long as this one community exists. To this [community] Christ gave the power of the keys, saying in Matthew 18 [:18], “Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven.” He said the same to Peter as an individual, representing and taking the place of one and only one church, “[I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and] whatever you bind on earth,” etc., Matthew 16 [: 18–19] [LW 43:28].

Now let us see how these pious people treat the holy words of Christ in this case. Christ says to St. Peter, (Matthew 16:18) “Thou art, or art called, Peter; and on the Petram (i. e., on the rock) I will build My Church. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth, shall be bound in heaven, and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth, shall be loosed in heaven.” From these words they have claimed the keys for St. Peter alone; but the same Matthew has barred such erroneous interpretation (Matthew 18:18), where Christ says to all in common, “Verily, I say unto you, whatsoever ye shall bind on earth, shall be bound in heaven, and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth, shall be loosed in heaven.” It is clear that Christ here interprets His own words, and in this 18th chapter explains the former 16th; namely, that the keys are given to St. Peter in the stead of the whole Church, and not for his own person. Thus also John, in the last chapter, (John 20:22), “He breathed on them and said, Receive ye the Holy Ghost; whosesoever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them, and whosesoever sins ye retain, they are retained.” To maintain the sole authority of St. Peter, when there are two texts against one, many men have labored in vain. But the Gospel is too dear, and they have had to admit until now that in the first passage nothing special was given to St. Peter for his own person.

Thus it was also understood by many of the ancient Church fathers. It is likewise proved by the words of Christ just before He gave the keys to St. Peter, where He asks not Peter only, but all of them: “What think ye of Me?” (Matthew 16:15), Then Peter answers for them all, “Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God.” Therefore the words in (Matthew 16:18) must be understood in accordance with the words in (Matthew 18:16), and in (John 20:22); and one passage must not be explained in a manner contrary to two strong ones, but the one be properly explained by the two. The proof is all the stronger where there are two instead of only one, and it is but fair that one should follow the two, and not two the one. It is plain, therefore, that all the apostles were equal to Peter in all matters of authority. This is shown by their acts as well as by their words, for Peter never selected an apostle, nor made, confirmed, sent out, or ruled over one; although if he had been their superior by divine appointment this would have had to be, or all of them would have been heretics. Moreover, all of the apostles together could not make St. Matthias and St. Paul apostles, but this must needs be done from heaven, as it is written in Acts (Acts 1:23 ff.), and (Acts 13:2). How then could St. Peter alone be lord over them all? This little nut no one has been able to crack as yet, and I trust they will be so gracious, even against their will, to leave it uncracked a while longer.

And just as this Romanist boasts that the papal chair survives in spite of repeated assaults on its authority, so I, too, boast that the Roman See ofttimes, and to this very day, has striven in mad frenzy for such power, yet has never been able to attain it, and, God willing, shall never attain it. It is an utter farce when a man boasts that he has always kept what he has never had. Why does not our dear Romanist boast also that the city of Leipzig has never been taken away from him, in which he does not even have a house? It would be a boast of equal value with the other. So they chatter on incessantly; anything that comes to their tongues is blurted out. Therefore, I say, that though the Roman tyrants have striven hard against the Gospel, to take the common power of the Church and make it their own, yet the word of Christ still stands, “The powers of hell shall not prevail against it.” Now if this power had been given to the pope by divine right, God would not have desisted; at some time it would have been fulfilled. For he says that “not a jot or letter shall remain unfulfilled.” But in the extension of Roman power over all Christendom not one letter has ever been fulfilled.

Who is the Rock of Matthew 16? Luther states:

The Lord then says, “And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock will I build my church.” In St. John 1 [:42], he calls him Cephas, “You shall be called Cephas,” Keph in Hebrew, Kepha in Chaldean, and Petros or Petra in Greek, Rupes in Latin, all of which mean rock in German—like the high rocks the castles are built on. Now the Lord wants to say, “You are Peter, that is, a man of rock. For you have recognized and named the right Man, who is the true rock, as Scripture names him, Christ. On this rock, that is, on me, Christ, I will build all of my Christendom, just as you and the other disciples are built on it through my Father in heaven, who revealed it to you.” In plain German one would say, “You say (on behalf of all) that I am the Messiah or Christ, the Son of the living God; very well then, I say to you, you are a Christian, and I shall build my church on a Christian.” For in German the word “Christ” means both the Lord himself, as one sings, “Christ the Lord is risen, Christ ascended to heaven,”127 and he who believes in the Lord Christ, as one says, “You are a Christ.” Thus Luke in Acts 11 [:26] says that the disciples in Antioch were first called Christians, which is why names have survived such as, “Christians, Christendom, Christian faith,” etc. So here our Lord gives Simon, son of Jona, the name “man of rock” or “Christian” because he, from the Father, recognized the rock, or Christ, and praised him with his mouth on behalf of all the apostles.

From this it is clear enough that by the building of his church on the rock or on himself, Christ meant nothing else but (as was said above, from the apostles Peter and Paul) the common Christian faith, that whoever believes in Christ is built on this rock and will attain salvation, even against all the gates of hell; whoever does not believe in Christ is not built on this rock and must be damned, with all the gates of hell. This is the simple, single, certain understanding of these words, and there can be no other. This the words clearly and convincingly prove, and they agree with the words in the last chapter of Mark [16:16], “He who believes and is baptized will be saved,” and with John 11 [:26], “Whoever believes in me shall never die.” Yes, I say, remember well and mark diligently that the Lord in Matthew 16 does not speak of laws, Ten Commandments, or the works we should or could do, but of the Christian faith or the work of the Father, which he, with the Son and the Holy Spirit, performs in us, namely, that he spiritually builds us on the rock, his Son, and teaches us to believe in Christ, that we might become his house and dwelling, as is proven in I Peter 2 [:4–7] and Ephesians 2 [:19–22].

Further, “And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven” [Matt. 16:19]. The Lord wants to provide well for his churches, built on him and believing in him. Because they should preach and confess the gospel before the whole world and govern on the basis that Christ Jesus is the Son of God, he wants to have their words honored and not scorned, as though he were speaking personally from heaven. Now he who hears the gospel from the apostles or churches and does not want to believe should be sentenced to be damned. Again, if he should fall after he has believed and will not convert back to faith, he should be sentenced in the same way—he should keep his sins and be damned. On the other hand, he who hears and believes the gospel, or turns from his sins back to faith, should have his sins forgiven and should attain salvation. And he will consider such a verdict in heaven as if he had spoken it himself. See, these are the keys of the kingdom of heaven and they should be used to give eternal retention and remission of sins in the church, not just at the time of baptism, or once in a lifetime, but continuously until the end—retention for the unrepentant and unbelievers, remission for the repentant and believers.

And here remember once again, and write it upon your heart, that the Lord does not speak here of laws or the works we should do, but of his works, namely, of retention and remission of sins. To retain or forgive sins is the work of the divine majesty alone. But he wants to perform and accomplish these works of his through his church; that is why he says that whatever it will bind or loose on earth should be bound or loosed by him in heaven. That is why, too, the two items follow one another in the Children’s Creed, “I believe in one holy Christian church, the communion of saints, forgiveness of sins”; so, where the church is, namely, the building on the rock, there are the keys to the forgiveness of sins. [LW 41:314-315]

1,219 posted on 01/11/2013 8:51:55 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Heart-Rest
When the Bible (Matthew 3) says that John the Baptist was baptizing for the "confession of sins" and "repentence", and Jesus insisted on being baptized by John, was that because Jesus had to confess any sins, or repent of anything? Did Jesus "need" to be baptized, or was there another purpose for his choosing to do that "needless" action, and be baptized by John the Baptist?

The confusion may come from a Western sense of Baptism - You need to understand the Hebrew Mikvah.

Mikvah is an overturning, a new start... and it is significant here that Yeshua was fulfilling 'all righteousness' - That is a clue, as is the reply that rang down from Heaven. It was performed in natural running water by a Levite priest (probably the true High Priest of Levi at the time).

This is not a matter of repentance:
This is the ritual point in time beginning Yeshua's ministry, which includes the fulfillment as the real High Priest for all time. That is why the Immerser said he was not worthy to perform it.

Researching the Mikvah as it is used wrt priestly duty may prove enlightening. It is also critical to understand if one is going to follow the cronology of the fulfillment of the spring feasts, and the significance to Daniel's prophecy.

1,220 posted on 01/11/2013 8:52:19 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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