And his healing powers have been handed down to us today!!
Posted on 12/08/2012 2:24:39 PM PST by NYer
He also said “in remembrance”. He didn’t say crucify me every Sunday for all of time. Nor did He say leave me on the cross as a visual reminder.
Good Lord our God, grant, we beseech Thee, healing to Thy servant known to us as FourtySeven, and bless all who struggle to serve Thee on this forum.
In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, amen.
That is clearly, obviously and plainly stated asking the saint to DO something for someone, not asking him to ask God to do something for someone.
Luke 11:1-13 Now Jesus was praying in a certain place, and when he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” 2 And he said to them, “When you pray, say:
“Father, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come. 3 Give us each day our daily bread, 4 and forgive us our sins, for we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation.”
5 And he said to them,
“Which of you who has a friend will go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves, 6 for a friend of mine has arrived on a journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; 7 and he will answer from within, ‘Do not bother me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed. I cannot get up and give you anything’?
8 I tell you, though he will not get up and give him anything because he is his friend, yet because of his impudence he will rise and give him whatever he needs. 9 And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.
11 What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent; 12 or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? 13 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”
Why on earth do Catholics think that God doesn't hear and answer their prayers Himself?
If it was then every time we didn’t perfectly live up to the standards we would not be saved. Kind of like going round and round needing works for salvation isn’t it. No wonder Catholics are confused and not sure of their salvation.
Wow! The RCC sure dealt with that situation different than Jesus did! Obviously not something Jesus or the apostles taught.
And his healing powers have been handed down to us today!!
Jesus cast demons out. He never tortured those already tortured by them.
Looks like the only ones possessed buy demons are those who implemented the Inquisition.
The excuse of *that was the practice of the day* falls flat.
If the RCC had adhered to the actual teachings of Scripture, it would neither have been the practice of the day, nor would the church have condoned it and participated in it even if it were.
They are responsible for the demonic, barbaric treatment of all those souls.
The Inquisition and Catholic church's role in it are too well documented for the RCC to dissociate itself from it.
Catholics and the church would be far better off owning it and repenting and apologizing for it than continuing to deny or excuse it.
The Holocaust operated legally everywhere it did, in accordance with the understanding of political power in, for example, Berlin.
Saints Intercede for us ,dear Sister.
Once you understand this it really does not matter how it’s worded since God knows our hearts
From Scripturecatholic.com...
1 Tim 2:3 - because this subordinate mediation is good and acceptable to God our Savior. Because God is our Father and we are His children, God invites us to participate in Christ’s role as mediator.
1 Tim. 2:5 - therefore, although Jesus Christ is the sole mediator between God and man, there are many intercessors (subordinate mediators).
1 Cor. 3:9 - God invites us to participate in Christ’s work because we are God’s “fellow workers” and one family in the body of Christ. God wants His children to participate. The phrase used to describe “fellow workers” is “sunergoi,” which literally means synergists, or cooperators with God in salvific matters. Does God need fellow workers? Of course not, but this shows how much He, as Father, loves His children. God wants us to work with Him.
Mark 16:20 - this is another example of how the Lord “worked with them” (”sunergountos”). God cooperates with us. Out of His eternal love, He invites our participation.
Rom. 8:28 - God “works for good with” (the Greek is “sunergei eis agathon”) those who love Him. We work as subordinate mediators.
2 Cor. 6:1 - “working together” (the Greek is “sunergountes”) with him, don’t accept His grace in vain. God allows us to participate in His work, not because He needs our help, but because He loves us and wants to exalt us in His Son. It is like the father who lets his child join him in carrying the groceries in the house. The father does not need help, but he invites the child to assist to raise up the child in dignity and love.
Heb. 12:1 - the “cloud of witnesses” (nephos marturon) that we are surrounded by is a great amphitheatre of witnesses to the earthly race, and they actively participate and cheer us (the runners) on, in our race to salvation.
1 Peter 2:5 - we are a holy priesthood, instructed to offer spiritual sacrifices to God. We are therefore subordinate priests to the Head Priest, but we are still priests who participate in Christ’s work of redemption.
So does the phrase "Mother of my Lord" (Luke 1:43). Accepting for the moment your Nestorian premise that there were two Jesus, which one was St. Elizabeth referring to, the human Jesus or the divine Jesus?
Peace be with you
GMTA
And we all know your disdain for wisdom. ;-)
Just as every at Passover Seder the Jews are made present at the first Passover, Catholics are made present at the ONE sacrifice in the Epiclesis of the Mass. Nothing is recreated. Jesus said; "This IS my body". He dis not say this was my body or will be my body or is symbolic of my body.
Peace be with you
Must have also changed from what Jesus taught.
>>One day, we'll do it right.<<
So that’s where this comment of yours comes in?
Quote by annalex: “Protestants are by inclination vandals, and should be eradicated from the face of the earth just for that, -- and soon they will be a dark historical memory in Christendom, just like the iconoclast have become.”
LOL Bait you? I simply used the word to describe what you said. There is no separating “omnipresence” and “in different places at the same time” no matter how hard one tries.
Protestantism did no better. The incidence of witch trials and executions were significantly higher in Protestant regions of Europe and the New World than Catholic.
Jesus and the Holy Spirit intercede for us according to the will of God.
Romans 8:26-24 26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.
31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? 33 Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. 34 Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us.
1 Timothy 2:1-6 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. 3 This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.
Here, go to the Greek....
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Those verses from Timothy you posted have a lot added to them that is not in the original Greek. even the Douay-Rheims Bible does not add all that about subordinate mediators.
The cloud of witnesses means nothing more than that. It says NOTHING about them being able to do anything for us and makes no reference to their ability to answer prayer.
If someone besides God could answer prayer, then someone besides God would get the glory for it, and that is just wrong.
*Mother of GOD* does not show up in Scripture.
Stats?
ROFLMAO!!! Oh that was bad!
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