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White Horse Prophecy [Mitt's Loss brings obvious conclusion that Mormon leaders falsely prophesied]
MessagetoEagle.com ^ | Nov. 8, 2012 | Dustin Naef

Posted on 11/10/2012 7:59:09 AM PST by Colofornian

MessageToEagle.com - Normally, as a matter of personal preference I don’t get into politics, but when we have a presidential campaign that begins to cross over into the strange twilight zone of religious weirdness that centers on the one person who’s going to control the most powerful government and army on the face of the earth, well, it brings up some unusual scenarios to wonder about.

It is being reported in the media today that former presidential candidate Mitt Romney only wrote a victory speech for Election Day; presumably a harried, last minute scramble to revise his speech was being suggested as the reason behind the Romney-Ryan campaigns’ sluggish reluctance to concede their party’s unthinkable defeat.

Electoral Votes:

Barack Obama: 303 Mitt Romney: 206

Curiously, one has to wonder whether it was Romney’s obsession with polls and tracking data that lead to this overextension of hubris; his unshakable faith that he would be the next president of the United States—or could it have been Romney’s Mormon faith itself that lead him to believe victory was all but assured by some divine mandate?

Ascending to the office of the presidency has always been a coveted part of the mission of the Mormon Church, which began with its founder Joseph Smith, who as a young man experienced a close encounter with a being from another planet named Moroni, who descended from the heavens and instructed Smith to found a new religion (as seen on History Channel’s Ancient Aliens, S3E01)—today, in Ufology, such a happenstance would likely be classified as a contactee CE5 level event.

“I saw a pillar of light . . . which descended gradually until it fell upon me” – Joseph Smith.

In 1844 Joseph Smith, an apparent UFO contactee and the founder of the Mormon Church, brazenly launched his own political campaign for President of the United States. His stated goal was to overthrow the U.S. Constitution, and bring about a Mormon theocracy to the Nation.

Smith’s candidacy was always long shot, but that didn’t stop him from rallying his people to help clinch his destiny to be an independent commander in chief of the “army of God”.

Smith prophesied that if the U.S. Congress did not bow to his demands that “they shall be broken up as a government and God shall damn them.” He foresaw the emergence of “the one Mighty and Strong”—a leader who would “set in order the house of God”.

Smith’s call for a “theodemocracy where God and his people hold the power to conduct the affairs of men in righteous matters” evidently did not sit well with the majority of voters in the United States, and brought down a lot of bad press and hostility upon the Mormons. Smith’s presidential campaign was cut short while he was sitting in jail facing charges of treason and inciting a riot; an angry mob broke into the jailhouse and brought him to justice by shooting him to death.

Out of this early chapter of U.S. history developed what has became known in the Mormon Church as the “White Horse Prophecy”—a controversial prediction that someday a great Mormon leader, who, at a time when the U.S. Constitution “hangs like a thread as fine as a silk fiber”, would be elected President.

I know a little bit about Mormonism and their beliefs. I grew up and lived in Salt Lake City most all my life, I sat through many days of LDS seminary at public schools, and I also attended a private Mormon school as a teenager.

My family has roots in the Mormon pioneer heritage and early history. My ancestors, the Neff’s, came to the Salt Lake Valley in 1847, from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. My great-great-great-grandfather John Neff, Sr. settled Neff’s canyon in East Millcreek, Utah. He was also a close friend of Brigham Young and accompanied him into Northern Utah to proselyte amongst the Native Americans there. His daughter, Mary Ann Neff, married the notorious Mormon gunslinger and Utah folkhero Orrin Porter Rockwell.

Orrin Porter Rockwell was one scary-looking son of a bitch . . .

Rockwell served as a loyal henchman to Church founders Joseph Smith Jr. and Brigham Young—and was affectionately nick-named ‘Ol’ Port’ the ‘Destroying Angel of Mormondom’.

In his despicable and sordid history, Ol’ Port was intimately connected to political assassinations, revenge-killings, and gruesome Indian massacres. He’s praised for having avenged the Prophet Joseph Smith’s murder by shooting one of the conspirators with his musket while riding astride a horse.

There have been a few failed attempts in various movies and books to elevate the psychopath to the status of a gritty American hero of the old west —fortunately, none of them have really stuck.

A few of the many curious tenants of Mormonism I heard growing up in Salt Lake City were as follows . . .

*Cain, the killer of his brother Abel, is alive and wanders the earth, wearing no clothing but being covered by hair, and that LDS Church apostle David W. Patten encountered him once; and that reported sightings of Bigfoot can be explained by this story.

*Blacks were neutral in the War in Heaven, and that is why they were not allowed to hold the Mormon priesthood before 1978.

*Albert Einstein supposedly once said that LDS Church apostle James E. Talmage was the smartest man he had ever met.

*The Second Coming was imminent, and when I was age 25 I would be living in the “Last Days” (I’m in my 40’s now).

And here’s where Mitt Romney’s presidential candidacy enters the picture—

I remember my 7th grade LDS seminary teacher sermonizing about the “signs” of the ‘Last Days’.

One of his favorite ‘signs’ that he liked to talk about was that a great Mormon leader would be elected President of the United States, and this would be a major indication that the Last Days were imminent, e.g. the White Horse Prophecy.

Some say that the White Horse Prophecy was written by Joseph Smith himself, while others dispute that claim. According to the Salt Lake City Tribune:

The disputed prophecy was recorded in a diary entry of a Mormon who had heard the tale from two men who were with Joseph Smith in Nauvoo, Ill. when he supposedly declared the prophecy. “You will see the Constitution of the United States almost destroyed,” the diary entry quotes Smith as saying. “It will hang like a thread as fine as a silk fiber.”

Not only will the Mormons save the Constitution, under the prediction, but the prophecy goes further, insinuating that Mormons will control the government.

“Power will be given to the White Horse to rebuke the nations afar off, and you obey it, for the laws go forth from Zion,” the prophecy says.

Publicly, the Mormon Church doesn’t officially endorse the ‘White Horse Prophecy’ as doctrine, and will deny anything to do with it (just as Romney has whenever it’s been brought up)—however, there’s a telling piece of Mormon dogma that people may find disturbing. It was set in place by Joseph Smith himself, and is referred to as “lying for the Lord.”

As an act of self preservation or to protect the Mormon Church, it is doctrinally permissive to lie about your beliefs or intentions. In other words the ends justify the means. Smith did it with regard to his polygamous lifestyle. Brigham Young did it when he claimed that only Paiute Indians were responsible for the Mountain Meadows Massacre.

Over and over again, Mitt Romney marginalized his devout Mormon background, and downplayed its significance throughout his entire campaign. But in the 1970’s the ‘Cougar Club’ at Brigham Young University declared their admiration of Mitt and predicted that he’d be the president of the United States one day. According to an article on Salon.com:

…the Cougar Club — the all male, all white social club at Brigham Young University in Salt Lake City (blacks were excluded from full membership in the Mormon church until 1978) — was humming with talk that its president, Mitt Romney, would become the first Mormon president of the United States. “If not Mitt, then who?” was the ubiquitous slogan within the elite organization. The pious world of BYU was expected to spawn the man who would lead the Mormons into the White House and fulfill the prophecies of the church’s founder, Joseph Smith Jr., which Romney has avidly sought to realize.

With all this in mind, it’s hard not to look back and wonder . . .

Could Mitt Romney have been intending to run the United States as a Mormon theocratic state, as fortold by his Church’s prophet Joseph Smith?

Would a President Romney have executed the will of the people of the United States, and answered to the people—or would he only answer to God via the hierarchy of the Mormon Church?

What if a “revelation” or “vision” was received by the current President of the LDS Church (or Prophet), and passed on to ‘President Romney’ as a directive from God?–would Romney have executed that directive, even if it had gone against the will of the U.S. people, or the World?

Thankfully, this is probably one mystery we’ll never know the answer to . . .

Written by Dustin Naef - MessageToEagle.com Contributor

About the author: Dustin Naef has been a student of ancient mysteries and the paranormal for as long as he can remember. He has worked in screenwriting, graphic design and illustration, produced and designed video best-selling games, and is currently involved in the production of a film documentary and book about the mysteries surrounding Mount Shasta, California.

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To: DaveMSmith
I was for 35 years. Further more I am a descendant of Martin Harris, the man who wrote the Book of Mormon and JST bible as it was "translated" by FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Joseph Smith, and the man who sold his farm to pay for it's first printing.

I have more experience with this than I pray you ever do.

Mormonism is a mind controlling CULT. They teach 5 year old kids that "When the leaders speak the thinking has been done".

The way I was saved was by going in a rage to the chuch library to prove a referenced quote wrong...then I found with my own eyes that FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Joseph Smith DID claim to be greater than Christ !

We know what we are doing. Exposing the lies of a dangerous cult, in order to innoculate the curious against the well rehearsed recruiting lies, and occasionally preparing members to be saved.

Extraction from a cult is a painful years long task, and worth every second of it.

I suggest you quit defending what you do not know of, for Christ said "By every idle word shall you be judged".

As you can see after yet another false prophecy by Joseph Smith, that the mormons here don't have even the honor or shame of the Campingites....At least they shut up and went away....And Harold Camping isn't repsponsible for four more years of Obama either !

521 posted on 11/12/2012 10:25:14 AM PST by SENTINEL (Election 2012....One more false prophecy by FLDS/LDS "prophet" Joseph Smith)
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To: Elsie

Seriously, you need to think before hitting post. Repent. What do you expect for your works/behavior here as your eternal reward? Get Heaven and Hell - you never read it, yet you say it’s false teaching LOL! Double-dog dare ya!


522 posted on 11/12/2012 10:25:34 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith
...‘false teaching’ is a lie of hell...

Well; that certainly is a different viewpoint; I suppose!


 
1 Timothy 1:3-4
3. As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
4. nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 
1 Timothy 6:3-5
3. If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4. he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5. and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
 
2 Peter 2:1-3
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 
 



523 posted on 11/12/2012 10:26:41 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Saundra: This site is filled with ignorance when it comes to Mormons.

ELIZA: > Have you asked such questions before?

524 posted on 11/12/2012 10:29:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SENTINEL
Well, all I'm saying is that honey and goodwill goes a long way along with gentle respect - I see you have that - good to know you..

Blessings,

525 posted on 11/12/2012 10:29:27 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Saundra Duffy; reaganaut; metmom; Elsie
"Question: Who created Satan?"

Saundra this is your single warning. I am about to embarrass you right off this site, if that were possible, with the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible, which the breakaway Salt Lake sect of which you arae a member does not use.

Do you still want the answer to that question ?

526 posted on 11/12/2012 10:29:44 AM PST by SENTINEL (Election 2012....One more false prophecy by FLDS/LDS "prophet" Joseph Smith)
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To: Saundra Duffy
They are making a lot of money off of ignorance.



527 posted on 11/12/2012 10:31:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Question: why are you not afraid of Brigham’s telling you that you are damned?


529 posted on 11/12/2012 10:32:28 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DaveMSmith
If I did not love them I wouldn't hang around here so much.

It breaks my heart, I've been there.

530 posted on 11/12/2012 10:32:28 AM PST by SENTINEL (Election 2012....One more false prophecy by FLDS/LDS "prophet" Joseph Smith)
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To: SENTINEL

LDS hymn #192 “He Died! The Great Redeemer Died”

“He died! The Great Redeemer died, And Israel’s daughters wept around.
A solemn darkness veiled the sky; A sudden trembling shook the ground.

“Come, Saints, and drop a tear or two
For Him who groaned beneath your load;
He shed a thousand drops for you,
A thousand drops of precious blood.

“Here’s love and grief beyond degree;
The Lord of glory died for men.
But lo! what sudden joys were heard!
The Lord, though dead, revived again

“The rising Lord forsook the tomb.
In vain the tomb forbade Him rise.
Cherubic legions guard Him home,
And shout Him welcome to the skies.”

Jesus is coming to gather His flock. Let’s all try to be ready instead of spending time tearing down those who profess Him as Lord and Savior.


531 posted on 11/12/2012 10:33:48 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: DaveMSmith
Repent.

Of what?

Calling YOU deceived?

You ARE; ya know...

532 posted on 11/12/2012 10:34:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DaveMSmith
Get Heaven and Hell

Why?

Have YOU not QUOTED from it?

533 posted on 11/12/2012 10:35:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

This was doctrine for the first CATHOLIC Church! You condemn them yet use most of their Canon (decided by a popularity contest, BTW) ... I really have to go


534 posted on 11/12/2012 10:35:13 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: SENTINEL
Sentinal: I am about to embarrass you right off this site!

ELIZA: How long have you been about to embarrass me right off this site?

536 posted on 11/12/2012 10:37:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
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Praise to the Man!
 
 
 
Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus annointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

Praise to his mem'ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assasins,
Plead unto heav'n while the earth lauds his fame.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know 'Brother Joseph' again.

Chorus
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.


537 posted on 11/12/2012 10:38:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DaveMSmith
I really have to go

Bring MORE ammo upon your return.

538 posted on 11/12/2012 10:39:32 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
No I haven't, actually. It's available free online here - most recent translation: Heaven and Hell (Dole)
539 posted on 11/12/2012 10:40:01 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I am so tired of people condemning me to hell using some false assumptions.
_______________________________________

When you get tired of God condemning you to Hell for believing some false doctrines then you’ll have something to worry about...


540 posted on 11/12/2012 10:40:54 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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