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" My religion defines who I am, and I've been a practicing Catholic my whole life. And has particularly informed my social doctrine. The Catholic social doctrine talks about taking care of those who -- who can't take care of themselves, people who need help. With regard to -- with regard to abortion, I accept my church's position on abortion as a -- what we call a de fide doctrine. Life begins at conception in the church's judgment. I accept it in my personal life.

But I refuse to impose it on equally devout Christians and Muslims and Jews, and I just refuse to impose that on others, unlike my friend here, the -- the congressman. I -- I do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that -- women they can't control their body. It's a decision between them and their doctor. In my view and the Supreme Court, I'm not going to interfere with that." - Senator Joe Biden

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/pat-archbold/joe-biden-and-the-abortion-question#ixzz2999O8qQr

1 posted on 10/12/2012 8:38:55 PM PDT by pansgold
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2 posted on 10/12/2012 8:42:46 PM PDT by narses
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When it comes to religion, Joe “The Home of the Whopper” Biden likes to have it his way.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 8:43:25 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Sorry Algore. It was attitude, NOT altitude.)
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Lunatic needs an exorcism.


4 posted on 10/12/2012 8:43:57 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Throw in Nancy Pelosi, Durbin, and all the wretched Kennedys. I really wish the RCC would excommunicate them. Their position is intolerable. The ECUSA has imploded, maybe these fallen away Catholics could just move over there.


5 posted on 10/12/2012 8:46:31 PM PDT by EDINVA (I)
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Life begins at conception in the church's judgment. I accept it in my personal life. But I refuse to impose it on equally devout Christians and Muslims and Jews, and I just refuse to impose that on others....

Yeh and instead Bidens Dems impose their religion of abortion on the rest of society and force us taxpayers to subsidize it against our wishes.

6 posted on 10/12/2012 8:47:47 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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CINO’s -—Catholic in name only.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 8:50:30 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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Because old Joe obviously does not care if he is excommunicated or not - DO IT!

Catholics can make this a talking point, or think it’s something they can dangle in front of this evil man for their own purpose - or they can just DO IT.


8 posted on 10/12/2012 8:50:33 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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I know he has been excommunicated by a couple of bishops, one of them in Denver.


9 posted on 10/12/2012 8:57:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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It is false to say that Biden has excommunicated himself by being pro-abortion. Only those directly complicit in an actual abortion are excommunicated automatically. (Canon 1397)

He DOES, however, have the obligation NOT to present himself to receive Communion, because being pro-abortion is a mortal sin. (Canon 916) Cf. the guidelines on Communion printed in the front of every Missalette published in the U.S.

Ministers of Communion have the OBLIGATION to refuse Communion to people who are notorious for promoting abortion. (Canon 915) Follow these links to become an instant expert:

http://www.tinyurl.com/canon915
http://www.canonlaw.info/canonlaw915.htm
http://www.tinyurl.com/peters915
http://www.tinyurl.com/pont915


10 posted on 10/12/2012 8:57:52 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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Can’t find the article so titled at the link with a misused apostrophe in the first word.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 8:57:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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***...I do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that — women they can’t control their body...***

This ‘argument’ is such a crock, on a number of different levels.

Our side needs to be the one to define the terms of this, not the lying left.


12 posted on 10/12/2012 8:59:27 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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As a supposedly good Catholic, he should have said it’s a decision between the woman and God.


16 posted on 10/12/2012 9:08:35 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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When was the last time the US Catholic Church excommunicated a sitting US politician?

So many Democrats push agendas that hurts the church, then supposedly supports the church come re-election time.


19 posted on 10/12/2012 9:17:44 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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This will die down and the church won’t do anything - after all, he’s the Vice President so he’s “special”. /s


21 posted on 10/12/2012 9:18:55 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE.)
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Excommunication or Exorcism.
26 posted on 10/12/2012 9:46:41 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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I do not believe that we have a right to tell other people that -- women they can't control their body. It's a decision between them and their doctor.

Sorry, not buying it, Joe. Obamacare obliterates the supposed right to privacy that undergirds Roe. Roe and Obamacare cannot both be constitutional. One gives women a right to make decisions without interference. The other puts government between her and her doc every step of the way, from the insurance products she is permitted to purchase to the treatment options her doc is permitted to offer her.

33 posted on 10/12/2012 10:47:13 PM PDT by PeevedPatriot ("A wise man's heart inclines him toward the right, but a fool's heart toward the left."--Eccl 10:2)
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“I'm a great Catholic and don't believe in murdering unborn babies. But it's ok for other people to murder unborn babies if they're cool with it.” (Biden translation)
36 posted on 10/13/2012 1:48:58 AM PDT by MacMattico
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I accept my church's position on abortion as a -- what we call a de fide doctrine. Life begins at conception in the church's judgment. I accept it in my personal life.

WTF? Is he assuring us that if he gets pregnant, he definitely will not abort?

And what exactly does he think de fide means, if anything?

39 posted on 10/13/2012 3:38:00 AM PDT by maryz
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What ticks me off is he goes to Communion every week.


40 posted on 10/13/2012 3:56:03 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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The Catholic Church will permit Pro-Choice Catholics when Shira Law permits Gay Muslims.


42 posted on 10/13/2012 6:02:58 AM PDT by pansgold
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