Posted on 07/01/2012 1:18:00 AM PDT by stpio
R. Albert Mohler, Jr., President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary isn't sure if Birth Control is a sin.
Watch this Vortex. The problem with Protestantism, you get to decide.
And there we have it. Protestants affirming that unborn children are bacteria.
I guess this is a joke, because Catholics vote against those things.
Maybe this is about some club membership thing rather real life in a voting democracy.
MOHLER: "Well, a bit of both. Again, for an evangelical Protestant to respond to the papacy, we have to say that one of the problems is this critical claim to both temporal and spiritual power. And that is a very dangerous mixture. Who knows in what role he is speaking?" Larry King Live, 22 March 2000
"Conservative Protestants emerged as major players in the pro-life movement, standing side-by-side with Catholics in the defense of the unborn." R. Albert Mohler, Jr., 30 March 2004
"Most evangelical Protestants greeted the advent of modern birth control technologies with applause and relief." R. Albert Mohler, Jr., 5 June 2012
I know what authenticity is in this matter.
I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you, cheap.
Catholics voting pro-life and conservative is unlikely.
You’re killing me. Begging the question never ends.
http://www.reformedreader.org/history/ford/
Your account is only one of the re-emergence of baptists/immersionists as a separate line throughout church history, whose distinctives were borne of Christ and His trained Apostles, keeping to the ordinances given in Matthew 28:19-20 and elsewhere in the NT. Baptists are not Protestants. They were not ever of those attempting to reform Romanism, or seeded from it.
You and I are not going to agree, as our forebears did not.
Yes, better that they vote with you for the pro abortion, pro gay marriage Romney, who ‘ran to the left of Ted Kennedy’.
If you’re going to bash Catholics - Romney is about the worst guy you could use to do it.
No, you don’t have it. I have one child by flesh and two by adoption, so I obviously do NOT believe children are filth. However, I also don’t believe God requires me to have as many kids as my wife is capable of bearing.
Given that many Catholics are loyal democrats supporting abortion, I find the idea that a baptist using a condom is evil is a bit laughable.
The idea that we just have to let God make all the decisions for us is wrong. God gave us the ability to make soap, so we can choose not to be filthy. God commanded the Jews not to eat certain foods, although I like a good pork barbeque. If I have a headache, I take aspirin and thank God for it.
Using technology (such as condoms) to give us choices is not evil, if the choice we make with it is IAW God’s will. And I doubt it is God’s will that every Christian have as many kids as possible, just as it is not God’s will that we avoid pork or soap.
It can never be strictly about things like anti abortion or christianity.
A few weeks ago, there was a thread about a church in Europe where the "pastor" read from the Koran, and IIRC, had an Imam there, all for "unity" in the community.
Suddenly, the thread turned into a "we are better than them" thread.
It became that this pastor represented ALL of a certain denomination.
There were a number of posters who pointed out that that wasn't the denominational view.
There were a number of posters pointing out that what was done was wrong. That it was a watering down of the Gospel. Of the TRUE Gospel.
But the thread just became an us vs them forum. There was no rallying around the Gospel, of Protestants and Catholics defending the Gospel against Islam.
No, this became a we are better than they. And the "they" wasn't Islam.
There are differences between Catholics and Protestants, no doubt. But instead of proclaiming the Gospel or influencing society from shared Biblical truths, people look for opportunities to attack those they should be allied with.
Instead of uniting on overall common ground and attempting to persuade someone, such as Paul "come let us reason together", it's all about 2x4s over the head or in the face.
Threads aren't posted for "reason". They are posted to snipe.
This is what blows my mind about Catholic liberals .
Someone spends hours trying to turn them right,and then they sum it up in a way that doesn’t represent the poster at all.
That my FRiend IS the Gospel, no matter the denominational title.
And bears repeating.
When teaching your flock how to be moral rather then how to know God and glorify Him you will fail. It is through a personal relationship with Jesus that helps me make right decisions in life. And that includes political ones.
"We believe that the Baptists are the original Christians. We did not commence our existence at thereformation, we were reformers before Luther or Calvin were born; we never came from the Church of Rome, for we were never in it, but we have an unbroken line up to the apostles themselves. We have always existed from the very days of Christ, and our principles, sometimes veiled and forgotten, like a river which may travel underground for a little season, have always had honest and holy adherents. Persecuted alike by Romanists and Protestants of almost every sect, yet there has never existed a Government holding Baptist principles which persecuted others; nor I believe any body of Baptists ever held it to be right to put the consciences of others under the control of man. We have ever been ready to suffer, as our martyrologies will prove, but we are not ready to accept any help from the State, to prostitute the purity of the Bride of Christ to any alliance with the government, and we will never make the Church, although the Queen, the despot over the consciences of men. — Charles Spurgeon (From The New Park Street Pulpit, Vol.VII, Page 225)."
(emphassis mine)
I have not read the entyire article Chris wrote from which you excerpted, but It makes no sense for the web site of a "religion" that makes claim to being erxistant since the Apostles, host a writer that denies that claim.
I am an independent, Fundamental Baptist, BTW
Has Romney publicly supported killing aborted babies that have survived the abortion?
Obama has.
Where I live, the most Catholic section of the county is west Tucson, due to the heavy Mexican influence. Do you want to guess who those Catholics elect to Congress?
Raúl Grijalva
“Grijalva co-chairs the Congressional Progressive Caucus with Keith Ellison of Minnesota[5] and in 2008 was among 12 members rated by National Journal as tied for most liberal overall.[6] Liberal and progressive activist groups routinely give him high marks for his voting record. For the first session of the 111th Congress, Grijalva received a 100 percent score from Americans for Democratic Action, Peace Action, the League of Conservation Voters, the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights and several other notable groups.[7]
Grijalva has a pro-choice voting record and voted against the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act.[17] He was strongly critical of the Stupak-Pitts Amendment, which sought to place limits on taxpayer-funded abortions in the Affordable Health Care for America Act.[18]”
BTW - he is a Catholic.
Can you tighten that up and make a point?
“And I doubt it is God’s will that every Christian have as many kids as possible”
Then why did God command Adam, “fill the earth and subdue it”?
I encourage you to read this article. It explains things better than I ever could.
http://www.touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=20-04-020-f
“Has Romney publicly supported killing aborted babies that have survived the abortion?”
Has Romney publicly supported public funding of abortion as provided in Romneycare?
Yes, yes he has.
“Where I live, the most Catholic section of the county is west Tucson, due to the heavy Mexican influence. Do you want to guess who those Catholics elect to Congress?”
Where I live, the most Catholic section of the county is Mexican as well. Want to guess who those Catholics elect to congress?
“BTW - he is a Catholic.”
Well, I’m sorry, Arizona is not Texas and never will be. Arizona elected John McCain.
“One protestant making a comment doesn’t make it that ALL Protestants agree.”
Just as one Catholic voting democrat doesn’t make all Catholics communists.
JCBreckenridge - “Then why did God command Adam, “fill the earth and subdue it”?”
Because there was a big, empty earth to fill?
If this was the 1880s west, I’d probably feel a need to have a lot of kids. But it isn’t, is it?
ansel12 - “Can you tighten that up and make a point?”
Nope. You may have to read a couple of paragraphs.
Cathoicism is NOT distant. It’s as close as your heart and your mind.
Love God with your whole heart, mind, body and strength.
Find a priest that you can sit down and talk with and get your questions answered.
Another suggestion — keep reading about the early Church and who knows what will happen!
God bless.
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