Seven Differences Between Mormonism and Christianity

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Introduction

The purpose of this is to let you know seven

differences between Mormonism and traditional

Christianity (Catholic, Protestant, and Orthodox).

Many would think that Mormonism is simply a part of

Christianity, particularly since they are called “The

Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints”

(emphasis added). The problem is that we, as traditional

Christians, think that Mormonism is teaching another

Jesus than what the Bible teaches (cf. 2 Corinthians

11:3-4, 13-15).

The Seven Differences

1. Mormon scripture teaches that all the various

Christian denominations, particularly the

Presbyterians, Baptists, and Methodists, are all

considered by Jesus Christ to be “wrong.” When

the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith, Jr. was questioning,

as a 14-year-old boy, which of these churches to join, he

claimed, “I was answered that I must join none of them, for

they were all wrong; and the Personage who

addressed me said that all their creeds were an

abomination in his sight; that those professors were

all corrupt; that: ‘they draw near to me with their

lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for

doctrines the commandments of men, having a form

of godliness, but they deny the power thereof’”

(Joseph Smith--History 1:19, Pearl of Great Price,

emphasis added, cf. 1:9).

“Behold there are save two churches only; the one is

the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the

church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not

to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that

great church, which is the mother of abominations;

and she is the whore of all the earth (1 Nephi 14:10,

Book of Mormon).”

2. Mormon scripture, prophets and apostles teach that

there is more than one god who created this world,

that there are many gods who rule over other worlds,

and that worthy Mormons may one day become gods

themselves. Even though Mormons claim there is only

one God for them, they still believe that the Father,

Son, and Holy Spirit are separate gods who are only

one in their purpose rather than in a personal being

that they share eternally.

Three separate personages--Father, Son, and Holy Ghost-

-comprise the Godhead. As each of these persons is a

God, it is evident, from this standpoint alone, that a

plurality of Gods exists. To us, speaking in the proper

finite sense, these three are the only Gods we worship.

But in addition there is an infinite number of holy

personages, drawn from worlds without number, who

have passed on to exaltation and are thus gods (Bruce R.

McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 576-7).

“Here, then, is eternal life--to know the only wise and true

God; and you have got to learn how to be Gods

yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same

as all Gods have done before you, namely, by going from

one small degree to another… until you attain to the

resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in

everlasting burnings, and to sit in glory, as do those who

sit enthroned in everlasting power (Joseph Smith,

Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 346-7).

“As man is God once was, as God is man may be”

(Prophet Lorenzo Snow, The Life of Lorenzo Snow by

Thomas C. Romney, 46).

“And then the Lord said: Let us go down. And they went

down at the beginning, and they, that is the Gods,

organized and formed the heavens and the earth”

(Abraham 4:1, The Pearl of Great Price).

3. Mormon scripture, prophets and apostles teach

that God the Father is an exalted man with flesh

and bones.

“God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted

man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! …I say, if

you were to see him today, you would see him like a man

in form--like yourselves in all the person, image, and

very form as a man; ...I am going to tell you how God

came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that

God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea,

and take away the veil, so that you may see” (Smith,

Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 345).

“The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as

man’s” (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22).

4. Mormon prophets and apostles teach that God

the Father has at least one wife by which we were

all literally born from as spirit children prior to

coming to this earth. Some of these prophets and

apostles have even taught that Jesus had wives

and children.

“This glorious truth of celestial parentage,

including specifically both a Father and a Mother, is

heralded forth by song in one of the greatest of

Latter-day Saint hymns. O My Father by Eliza R.

Snow, written in 1843 during the lifetime of the

Prophet, includes this teaching:

“ In the heavens are parents single? No; the thought makes reason stare!

Truth is reason, truth eternal, Tells me I’ve a Mother there.

When I leave this frail existence, When I lay this mortal by,

Father, Mother, may I meet you In your royal courts on high?”

(McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 516-7).

“We have now clearly shown that God the Father had

a plurality of wives, one or more being in eternity,

by whom He begat our spirits as well as the spirit of

Jesus His First Born, and another being upon the

earth by whom He begat the tabernacle of Jesus, as

His Only Begotten in this world. We have also

proved most clearly that the Son followed the

example of his Father, and became the great

Bridegroom to whom kings’ daughters and many

honorable Wives were to be married” (Apostle Orson

Pratt, The Seer, 172).

“When our father Adam came into the garden of

Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and

brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped

to make and organize this world. He is MICHAEL,

the Archangel, the ANCIENT OF DAYS! about

whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our

FATHER and our God, and the only God with

whom WE have to do (Prophet Brigham Young,

Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, 50).

NOTE: Most Mormons are unaware that Brigham

Young in fact taught that Adam was the God of this

world. Only members of fundamentalist Mormon groups

(not affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday

Saints) hold to this doctrine today. Regardless of this

identification of God as being Adam, no one denies that

Young believed that God the Father has more than one wife.

5. Mormon prophets and apostles teach that God

the Father had a Father whom He followed as

Jesus had followed Him. This follows from the

preceding points.

“If Abraham reasoned thus—If Jesus Christ was

the Son of God, and John discovered that God the

Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may

suppose that He had a Father also. Where was there

ever a son without a father? And where was there

ever a father without first being a son? Whenever

did a tree or anything spring into existence without a

progenitor? And everything comes in this way.

…Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe

that He had a Father also? I despise the idea of

being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the

Bible is full of it.

I want you to pay particular attention to what I am

saying. Jesus said that the Father wrought precisely

in the same way as His Father had done before Him.

As the Father had done before? He laid down His

life, and took it up the same as His Father had done

before” (Smith, Teachings of the Prophet Joseph

Smith, 373).

6. Mormon prophets and apostles teach that there

are many things that Jesus did not create. For

example, He did not create our spirits, nor did He

create Lucifer, nor did He even create the planet

that He was born on as a spirit. The reason for this

is because Mormons believe that Jesus and Lucifer

are literally brothers, and we as humans are all the

younger brothers and sisters of them. We were all

born of heavenly parents, who did the creating work

of their world (not all worlds whatsoever) before we

arrived spiritually in heaven.

“The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the

world was contested by one of the other sons of God.

He was called Lucifer, son of the morning. Haughty,

ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this

spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the

Savior of mankind” (Milton R. Hunter, The Gospel

through the Ages, 15).

7. Mormon prophets and apostles teach that we

should not pray directly to Jesus. Rather, they can

only pray directly to the Father in the name of Jesus.

Apostle Bruce McConkie said concerning the Father,

“He is the one to whom we have direct access by

prayer, and if there were some need -- which there is

not -- to single out one member of the Godhead, for a

special relationship, the Father, not the Son, would be

the one to choose. Our relationship with the Son is

one of brother or sister in the pre-mortal life.’

Referring to “others who have an excessive zeal,”

McConkie went on to say that they devote themselves to

gaining a special, personal relationship with Christ

that is both improper and perilous. ...Another peril is that those so

involved often begin to pray directly to Christ because of some

special friendship they feel has been developed.

...This is plain sectarian nonsense. Our prayers are

addressed to the Father and to Him only (BYU

Devotional [March 2, 1982], 17, 19 & 20).

A Christian Response

Some Mormons may quibble that some of these

sources are non-scriptural, and are thus simply the

opinions of men with no binding authority. But the Bible

says that if so-called prophets and apostles teach other

gods than what God has already clearly revealed about

Himself, we are to consider them to be false (cf.

Deuteronomy 13:1-5; 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, 13-15; &

Galatians 1:6-9). What difference does it make if the

preceding sources are deemed by the Mormon Church to

be scriptural or not? If this is truly what they taught, then

it seems quite obvious that these individuals are not

teaching the God of the Bible, and thus should be

considered as non-Christian (i.e., they are not following

the true Christ).

Mormons also quibble that the Bible is full of errors

and has been through many a translation such that many

“plain and precious truths” have been left out of the

translation we have today. Thus, Mormons unquestionably

rest their faith in what their church tells them to believe, so

long as they receive affirmation from what is called a

“burning in their bosoms.” Christians, on the other hand,

find no reason to think that many truths have been taken

from Scripture.

Why is it that all the various manuscripts

of the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek Scriptures, from which

all the various versions come, are remarkably consistent

with each other? Where is all the evidence that these

manuscripts were cut up in such a way so as to delete the

“plain and precious truths” found today in the restored

Mormon Scriptures? Christians find no reason to doubt

the words of the Lord Jesus when He said, “Scripture

cannot be broken” (John 10:35), and “[h]eaven and earth

shall pass away but my words shall not pass away” (Mat.

24:35). It is the word of God, not our “burning in our

bosoms,” that is a light to our path (Psalms 119:105).

The Christian interpretation of the Bible teaches that

there was only one Being (not a team of Gods that formed

a Godhead) who did the creation work of any world in the

entire universe (not some proper subset of it) (Isaiah

43:10; 44:6, 8, 24; 45:12; & 46:9). Of course other “gods”

are mentioned in Scripture, but they are consistently

referred to as false gods or idols that are not gods by nature

(Ps. 96:5; 1 Cor. 8:1-6; & Gal. 4:8).

(Some Mormons have attempted to support their polytheism by likening

themselves to early Christian fathers and other Christian

theologians in their view of the deification of humans. But

the latter still believe in only one true God by nature, and

hold that humans can never attain the unique features of

God like omnipotence, eternality, omnipresence, etc.

Consequently, Christian deification does not teach that

humans can literally become gods. Instead, it teaches that

humans are “deified” in the sense that the Holy Spirit

transforms Christian believers into the image of God,

modeled perfectly in the human nature of Christ, by

endowing them in the resurrection with immortality and

God’s perfect moral character.)

The Bible also teaches that God is not limited to a body

that He needs to become a God. He is too great for a body

(1 Kings 8:27 & Jn. 4:21-24). He is God unchangeably

from everlasting to everlasting (Malachi 3:6 & Ps. 90:2).

This is why God has a completely different nature from

man. He is not a mere man, nor an exalted man, since He

is not a man at all (Hosea 11:9).

The Bible also teaches that Jesus created everything

that was ever created from the beginning of heaven and

earth (Jn. 1:1-3, 14 & Colossians 1:15-18). Hence,

wherever humans or Lucifer were made, they were all

made by Jesus. This is why Christians have no problem

praying to Jesus (cf. Stephen’s prayer in Acts 7:59).

Jesus told us not just to pray to the Father, but to Himself

as well (Jn. 14:14—Greek says, “If you ask me anything

in my name, I will do it”). Whether Jesus is physically

present or not is irrelevant, since He claimed to be with us

always anyway (Mat. 18:20 & 28:20). Though He

became fully man, He has always been fully God and

ought to be treated as such (Jn. 1:1 & 14; 5:18 & 23;

Romans 9:5; Philippians 2:5-10; Col. 2:9; Revelation 1:8,

17-18; & 22:6-20). Since Jesus is the only Son of God

with the nature of God (“only begotten” in Greek means

“one of a kind or genus”), He is God the Son (Jn. 1:18).

More specifically, He is the second person of God. The

Christian God is more than one person; He is actually three

persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) who are not unlike

radically connected Siamese twins (compare Isa. 44:24

with Genesis 1:26--the being of God created alone with the

plurality of persons that His being is comprised of). There

was never a time when one of the persons was without the

others. They are eternally distinct persons while eternally

inseparable in being as well as purpose.

Your eternal salvation depends on whether you really

know God or not. Jesus said, “[I]f ye believe not that I am

he, ye shall die in your sins” (Jn. 8:24). Please consider

praying to God (Father, Son, or Holy Spirit), asking Him

to cleanse you from all your sins, particularly of following

another god and another Jesus, and then repent from those

idols by leaving the Mormon Church.

Then please consider committing yourself to a genuinely “Christian”

denomination in order to grow in your new spiritual life.

1. All citations to Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith

use the pre-2002 edition.

R. M. Sivulka

[Elsie]

Mormons are decent well behaved God fearing people.

That should be: Mormons are decent well behaved God(s) fearing people.

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http://saintsalive.com/resourcelibrary/mormonism/the-great-pre-earth-council-of-mormon-gods

[Elsie]

I’m Roman Catholic.

And LOTYs of folks just like you have been lured away from RCC into the yawning maw of MORMONism.

[greyfoxx39]

See Post #33

From the Religion Moderator:

This thread is posted in the Religion Forum. The main guideline here is to "discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal." Attributing motives to other Freepers and reading their minds are forms of "making it personal."

[mamelukesabre]

Ok genius. Now tell us how “liberation theology” qualifies as Christian.

[Springfield Reformer]

Henri is hilarious, and not unlike our own cat. But as Joe Smith was into the Egyptians and the Egyptians were into cats, you may actually be on to something there.

Except he did have a slightly ironic problem translating a certain Egyptian hieroglyph, given Mormon theology’s apparent preoccupation with supernatural procreativity:

http:.//vintage.aomin.org/Mintract.html

[metmom]

I’m Roman Catholic. Could there be anything more false than religions by their very name “protesting” against the one true apostolic Church of God? Was Martin Luther a delusional fanatic, as well as a virulent anti-semite?

Oh gag.......

[Elsie]

An RCC caucus thread should be the standard.

[Elsie]

I doubt the average Mormon housewife is going to even know these doctrines, let alone act on them.

Broad is the way...

Later...

"But Pete!!

I THOUGHT I was on the right road!

My leaders TOLD me I was!!

THIS IS UNFAIR!!!"

[Elsie]

I’ve noticed over the past few months, that there is a lot of Mormon bashing on FR. I’m curious as to the motive.

Some Christians FINALLY got tired of all of the LIES that MORMONism spouts and they decided to follow what the BIBLE has clearly taught for centuries:

 

Romans 15:4
 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

 

 

Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.

 

 

1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.

 

 

1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.

 

 

Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

 

 

2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.

 

 

1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.

 

 

1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.

 

 

1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.

 

 

1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

 

 

2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.

 

 

 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.

 

 

2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

 

 

 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

 

 

Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.

 

 

Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.

 

 

Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.

 

 

 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.

 

 

 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

 

 

2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.

[Elsie]

I’ve noticed over the past few months, that there is a lot of Mormon bashing on FR. I’m curious as to the motive.

Any place that a MORMON has the nerve to start spouting any of their HERESY will turn in to a BASH.

Bold
ANTIs
Spotlighting
Heresy

[Springfield Reformer]

A. I’m not a genius. I know. I’ve been tested. I am not genius-positive.

B. Even if I were, I wouldn’t try to defend liberation theology (aka racial Marxism) as Christian either. Both are vehicles for making man into a god. The only real difference is the fool efficiency.

C. What’s your point? Same old rehash of I shouldn’t vote my conscience because it will get the wrong guy elected? That’s an old and moldy excuse for disobeying God. Nice try. No sale. God still runs this show. That idea is what frees me to vote my conscience. You fear losing freedom, but there can be no freedom if you make your conscience a slave to fear and doubt. You will always be under the thumb of whoever can manufacture the best crisis. Be free. Have faith in God, then do what’s right. That’s real “liberation theology.”

[Elsie]

Yes, the "average mormon housewife" may not fully understand the doctrine, or be aware of Joseph Smith's many wives or other history but she will indeed be following the rules and regulations if she hopes to have her family with her in "eternity".

Yes; the amh will be going along with the program.

And she will likely be married to a RM who is well versed in following rules:

The Rules

1. Learn and obey all missionary rules.
2. Keep your thoughts, words, and actions in harmony with the gospel message.
3. Read only books, magazines, and other material authorized by the Church.
4. Don't debate or argue.
5. Center your mind on your mission.
6. Dress conservatively. Elders: white shirts, conservative ties, and business suits. Sisters: conservative colors and skirts that cover your knees. No floor-length skirts or dresses.
7. Cut your hair regularly.
8. Keep your hair clean and neatly combed at all times in the approved style.
9. Be neat and clean.
10. Bathe frequently.
11. Use deodorant.
12. Polish your shoes.
13. Iron your shirt and business suit.
14. Arise at 6:30 A.M.
15. Study for 2 hours every morning.
16. Proselytize for 10 hours between 9:30 A.M. and 9:30 P.M.
17. Turn off your lights at 10:30 P.M.
18. Exercise regularly.
19. Write in your journal regularly.
20. Follow the "Missionary Gospel Study Program" (31157) for your personal study.
21. Regularly study the Missionary Guide and the Discussions.
22. Attend Sunday priesthood or Relief Society meetings, Sunday School, and sacrament meeting.
23. Attend the general session of Stake Conference.
24. Attend general conference broadcasts if available.
25. Avoid all other church meetings unless you have a special assignment or are brining an investigator.
26. Proselytize as much as possible on weekends and holidays because this is when you'll find people home.
27. End your preparation day at 6:00 P.M. and proselytize from 6:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M.
28. Wear your missionary uniform in public on preparation day while not engaged in recreational activities.
29. Arise at 6:30 on preparation day and study for 2 hours from the approved books.
30. Take care of your physical preparation for the week on preparation day: wash your clothes, clean your apartment, wash your car, get your haircut, and shop for groceries.
31. Write to your parents every week on preparation day.
32. Write less frequently to your siblings, friends, and acquaintances.
33. Don't communicate with any friends or acquaintances that are within or close to your mission boundaries, except as a part of official mission business.
34. Plan safe, wholesome, and uplifting activities for preparation day.
35. Stay with your companion during all activities.
36. Do not go on road trips.
37. Do not leave your assigned area without permission
38. Do not watch television.
39. Do not view unauthorized videocassettes.
40. Do not listen to the radio.
41. Do not listen to unauthorized audiocassettes or CD’s.
42. Do not participate in musical groups.
43. Do not participate in athletic teams.
44. Do not sponsor athletic teams.
45. Do not engage in contact sports.
46. Do not engage in water sports.
47. Do not engage in winter sports.
48. Do not engage in motorcycling.
49. Do not engage in horseback riding.
50. Do not engage in mountain climbing.
51. Do not embark on a private boat.
52. Do not embark in a private airplane.
53. Do not handle firearms.
54. Do not handle explosives.
55. Do not swim.
56. Do not play full court basketball.
57. Do not play basketball in leagues.
58. Do not play basketball in tournaments.
59. You may play half-court basketball.
60. Never be alone.
61. Seek advice from your mission president if your companion is "having difficulties".
62. Be loyal to your companion.
63. Ask your mission president for help if your companion doesn’t obey the rules.
64. Pray with your companion every day.
65. Study with your companion every day.
66. Plan your work with your companion every day.
67. Take time at least once a week for companionship inventory.
68. Seek to be one in spirit and purpose and help each other succeed.
69. Always address your companion as Elder or Sister.
70. Sleep in the same bedroom as your companion.
71. Do not sleep in the same bed as your companion.
72. Do not arise before your companion.
73. Do not retire after your companion. (apparently, being together is more important than getting the correct amount of sleep that your unique body requires.)
74. Frequently study with your companion the Missionary Guide section on companions.
75. Never be alone with anyone of the opposite sex.
76. Never associate inappropriately with anyone of the opposite sex (conversely, they don't mention whether or not it is against the rules to associate inappropriately with anyone of the same sex).
77. Do not flirt.
78. Do not date.
79. Do not communicate via phone or letter with anyone of the opposite sex living within or near mission boundaries.
80. Do not visit a single or divorced person of the opposite sex unless accompanied by a couple or another adult member of your sex.
81. Try to teach single investigators in a member’s home or have missionaries of the same sex teach them.
82. Always follow the above rules, even if the situation seems harmless.
83. Use the commitment pattern to get referrals from members.
84. Keep your dinner visits with member briefs and during the customary dinner hour in the area.
85. Remember to say thank you to those who feed you.
86. Visit members and nonmembers only at appropriate times.
87. Do not counsel or give medical treatment.
88. Do not stay in the homes of people when they are on vacation.
89. Only write letters to family members and friends at home.
90. Do not telephone parents
91. Do not telephone relatives.
92. Do not telephone friends.
93. Do not telephone girlfriends.
94. Contact your mission president in case of an emergency.
95. Take problems and questions to your mission president.
96. Do not write to the President of the Church or to other General Authorities. Letters from missionaries to General Authorities are referred back to the mission president
97. Respect the customs, traditions, and property of the people who you are trying to convert.
98. Obey all mission rules.
99. Obey the laws of the land.
100. Do not get involved in politics.
101. Do not get involved in commercial activities.
102. Do not give any information about the area.
103. Respect the customs and cultures of those who you are trying to convert to your own customs and culture.
104. Respect the beliefs, practices, and sites of other religions.
105. Do not say or write anything bad about the political and cultural circumstances where you serve.
106. Do not become involved in adoption proceedings.
107. Do not suggest or encourage emigration. (This rule is a bit ironic, given the now-defunct doctrine of gathering the believers to Zion)
108. Be courteous.
109. Provide community service.
110. Do not provide community service that isn’t approved by your mission president.
111. Do not provide more than 4 hours a week of community service.
112. Do not provide community service during the evening, weekend or holidays—those are peek proselytizing times.
113. Your mission president must approve your housing.
114. Keep your housing unit clean.
115. Do not live with single or divorced people of the opposite sex.
116. Do not live where the spouse is frequently absent.
117. Your living unit must have a private bath and entrance.
118. You may occasionally fast for a special reason, but generally the monthly fast is sufficient.
119. Do not fast longer than 24 hours at a time.
120. Do not ask friends, relatives, and members to join in special fasts for investigators.
121. Maintain your health.
122. Eat a healthy diet.
123. Sleep from 10:30 to 6:30.
124. Follow the approved exercise program.
125. Keep your body, clothes, dishes, linens, towels and housing unit clean.
126. Dispose of your garbage properly and promptly.
127. Follow the safety rules for all of your stuff.
128. Seek medical care if you are in an accident or become sick.
129. Be immunized.
130. Spend your money only on things relating to your mission.
131. Budget your money carefully.
132. Keep a record of what you spend.
133. Do not spend more than your companion.
134. Do not loan money.
135. Do not borrow money.
136. Keep a reserve fund of $50 to $100 at all times for transfers.
137. Pay your bills before leaving an area.
138. Pay cash for all resale literature and supplies ordered from the mission office.
139. Do not waste money on souvenirs.
140. Do not waste money on unnecessary items.
141. Be a frugal photographer.
142. Do not accumulate excess baggage.
143. Obey custom laws and regulations.
144. Pay fast offerings each fast Sunday to the bishop or branch president where you serve.
145. Pay tithing on outside sources of income (i.e. interest) to your home bishop or branch president.
146. Evaluate your funds a few months before the end of your mission. If you have more than you need, ask that less be sent so that you can return home without excess money.
147. Do not drive without a license.
148. Drive only Church-owned vehicles.
149. Do not drive members’ cars.
150. Do not drive nonmembers’ cars.
151. Do not give rides to members or investigators in Church-owned cars.
152. Use cars only on approved mission business.
153. Use cars only within the assigned geographical area.
154. Be conscious of safety at all times.
155. Drive defensively.
156. Wear your seat belt.
157. Pray for the Lord’s protection while driving.
158. If your companion is driving, assist him or her.
159. Do not tamper with the vehicle’s odometer.
160. Know bicycle safety rules.
161. Use extreme caution on your bicycle.
162. Do not ride your bicycle after dark.
163. Do not ride your bicycle in heavy traffic.
164. Do not ride your bicycle in adverse weather conditions.
165. Go directly to your new area when transferred.
166. Find your new companion without delay when transferred.
167. Have a maximum of two suitcases and a briefcase.

[Secret Agent Man]

Yup, all must be because many are. That makes a whole lot of nonsense.

There’s an infinite number of wrong answers to questions that have only one right answer, but the one right answer still exists and is still right.

[Revolting cat!]

I could follow all the rules except this one:

Do not handle explosives.

[Secret Agent Man]

Really? How do you get that? There is more than one way to be “wrong”, all this shows is that BOTH are wrong.

And as far as I can tell Romney hasn’t been crowned queen of the ball yet.

[Secret Agent Man]

You may think that is what is being said, but it isn’t.

There is a difference between proclaiming and teaching views that are clearly not part of a faith’s doctrines, and people who agree on the doctrines essential to be considered as faithful to their particular faith, but have disagreements on non-essential issues.

This seven point breakdown touches on the former. There are differences in main essential points about who God is, what is required for salvation, etc. These are not minor points.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I was informed my greyfoxx39 that any dissent on this thread will be reported to the moderator, so I hereby avail myself of my Fifth Amendment rights.

[Secret Agent Man]

Originally Luther did not want to leave the RC church.

However there was a point in which he saw he had to because reform was impossible. If anything they dug into their heretical positions more solidly than ever.

But we are told that the truth of the Word of God will cause this to occur in some people. Others it will break through. Due to the unique characters and free will of different people. That doesn’t mean the approach isn’t valid or doesn’t do what it is intended to do. Or that they aren’t beyond hope of reaching with a different approach.

[Secret Agent Man]

:) oboy...