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ROMNEY AT LIBERTY LEADS TO ANGRY STUDENT RESPONSE [Falwell's U. issues Mitt commencement invite]
WorldNetDaily/CNN ^ | April 21, 2012

Posted on 04/22/2012 1:25:08 PM PDT by Colofornian

'University should have gotten a Christian to speak not someone who practices a cult'

(CNN) Liberty University students and alumni are accusing the Christian school of violating its own teachings by asking Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a member of the Church of...Mormons, to deliver its 2012 commencement address.

By Friday morning, more than 700 comments had been posted on the school’s Facebook page about the Thursday announcement – a majority of them decidedly against the Chancellor Jerry Falwell Jr.’s invitation, citing that the school had taught them Mormonism isn’t part of the Christian faith.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Evangelical Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012commencements; christianschools; highereducation; lds; liberty; libertyu; mittromney; mormon; va2012
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To: Sea Parrot
...Based upon some apparent self-claim to a higher moral ground ...

Bombastic rhetoric is no substitute for a reasoned rebuttal.

61 posted on 04/23/2012 5:23:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian

I hate everything.


62 posted on 04/23/2012 5:49:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: terycarl

Romney is anything BUT open about his beliefs. I was a mormon for over 40 years. Sacred not secret is the motto. The most esoteric beliefs are not shared with outsiders, but I’m guessing you know that.

Have you noticed how many Mormons feel free to lie when it comes down to religion. What kind of god would direct his church to lie?


63 posted on 04/23/2012 6:58:46 AM PDT by colorcountry (In order to practice tolerance, I must first disagree. But when I do, I'm accused of being intoleran)
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To: Sea Parrot; lu shissler; Biggirl; Elsie
Eric Hoffer

Two quotations from Sea Parrot from Hoffer, posts 9 & 44...

Lu Shissler then chimes in, post #38: You are so right, Eric

And so, we have these FREEPERs reaching all the way to that long "bastion" of conservatism, San Francisco, to draw its deemed "sage" advice...yes, even sagely San Francisco longshoremen like Eric Hoffer...

Let's see...what was Hoffer's worldview of the oppressed again? Oh, yeah:
"It is doubtful if the oppressed EVER fight for freedom. They fight for pride and for power--power to oppress others. The oppressed want above all to imitate their oppressors; they want to retaliate."

Source: Eric Hoffer, The True Believer, 1951

No, the oppressed never really fight for freedom, sayz a fave authority figure of Sea Parrot (& Sea Parrot's "Amen" choir, Lu Shissler).

But, wait a minute...what if Hoffer is right? What if the "minority" religionists & minority pagans we see come into FR indeed feel "oppressed" by the majority Christian religion? What if we apply Hoffer's "authoritative" worldview to them???

Well, that would mean when Sea Parrot sayz: I get so bloody tired of this; my religion, faith and creed, is the only true religion, faith and creed and is is better than your evil stupid religion, faith and creed... (post #9) it probably means at least a feeling of religious oppression is going on here (not actual oppression, but at least a feeling of it)...SO then, per Hoffer,

"It is doubtful if the [religiously] oppressed EVER fight for freedom. They fight for pride and for power--power to oppress others. The oppressed want above all to imitate their oppressors; they want to retaliate."

So, is that it, Sea Parrot & Lu? Are you really oppressed on FR? ... And...therefore...what you're really fighting for w/your keyboard here is for "pride and for...power to oppress others"??? And for the opportunity to express that inward desire -- that <"want" -- "to retaliate"???

Has Hoffer managed to psychoanalyze you -- and you didn't even know it???

Hmmm...I guess Hoffer could be right once in a while, after all! [Tho that use of "EVER" in that quote above ... from somebody so supposedly "tuned in" to San Francisco-style tolerance, should have certainly known better to refrain from such ignorant-sounded absolutes!!!!]

64 posted on 04/23/2012 9:31:03 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Moutm when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian

bttt


65 posted on 04/23/2012 11:53:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Lazamataz

66 posted on 04/23/2012 12:11:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
AS stated to you prior, voluminous bombastic rhetoric does not suffice for reason.

I guess then by your mores, President Ronald Reagan was wrong to have awarded Eric Hoffer the Presidential Medal of Freedom award,

67 posted on 04/23/2012 12:26:28 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Nations are only truly great when it's people are struggling against all odds, growing and expanding)
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To: Elsie

Uh, thanks for making ny point in more ways than one.


68 posted on 04/23/2012 12:29:34 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Nations are only truly great when it's people are struggling against all odds, growing and expanding)
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To: CatherineofAragon

“And you compare that to being Catholic? Really??”

Go back to #18 and read it. The subject of the poster’s comment was the REACTION to events and made no comparison to religion whatsoever.


69 posted on 04/23/2012 12:46:28 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: AntiObamaBot

Are you saying that Catholicism and mormonism are the same?
I remember when Kennedy ran as president, the animosity towards him wasn’t just because he was a Catholic.


70 posted on 04/23/2012 1:38:37 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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To: Sea Parrot

You are quite welcome.

I just LIVE to illustrate points!


71 posted on 04/23/2012 3:23:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: EDINVA
The subject of the poster’s comment was the REACTION to events...

And folks are definitely REACTING to the things they read here!

72 posted on 04/23/2012 3:25:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: CatherineofAragon
They don’t want an abortion-enabling, homosexual-loving liberal as their commencement speaker.

Then they are just another batch of Hateful BIGOTs who hate MORMONs.

--MormonDude(They should try BYU's speakers. Harry Reid got great marks for speaking there!)






Greenstreet, Steven (October 10, 2007). "Reid gets warm reception at BYU". Deseret Morning News. http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,695217316,00.html. Retrieved 2007-12-27.

73 posted on 04/23/2012 3:31:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
You were in your 30's before your chosen religion's leaders decided to be nicer to blacks.

for a protestant to condemn a church for not accepting blacks as equals is a perfect display of hypocrisy. Throughout most of the country, when I was a young person, blacks were not only not accepted in protestant churches, they weren't even accepted in restaurants and city busses.

Wake up and smell the roses' the Mormons handled the situation very poorly as did the MAJORITY of protestant denominations.....maybe separate, but never equal....you have a short memory

74 posted on 04/23/2012 7:18:39 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: colorcountry
Romney is anything BUT open about his beliefs. I was a mormon for over 40 years. Sacred not secret is the motto. The most esoteric beliefs are not shared with outsiders, but I’m guessing you know that.

While I do not believe that religion should be a litmus test for political office, Romney has always been clear that he is a mormon, donates huge amounts of money to it, and is active in its practices. Obama, on the other hand, belongs to whatever is happening now...Christian....very doubtful, moslem...probably. Senator Reid, pretty open, senator Hatch, pretty open. We can find out via the internet what this religion professes, and none of them deny their beliefs at all.

75 posted on 04/23/2012 7:27:47 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: terycarl
for a protestant to condemn a church for not accepting blacks as equals is a perfect display of hypocrisy.

Oh??

Please show us all just WHERE in the BIBLE is such blatant racism found as is found in mormon SCRIPTURE and then we'll talk.


2 Nephi 5:21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3:6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

76 posted on 04/23/2012 7:37:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: terycarl
...and is active in its practices.

And keeps the WOW?

77 posted on 04/23/2012 7:38:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Lazamataz
I peeked.

Good news:

Your reserved seat in heaven is 37988551-A.

For eternity.


Bad news:

Jerry Falwell's is 37988551-B.

For eternity.

78 posted on 04/23/2012 7:38:58 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: Elsie
Please show us all just WHERE in the BIBLE is such blatant racism found as is found in mormon SCRIPTURE and then we'll talk.

it isn't, and that makes the hyppocrisy even more apparent. The bible teaches us to love all mankind but as I recall, that's not exactly how the mostly protestant south U.S. interpreted it. No blacks in my church, certainly no black ministers, no blacks in my restaurant, no blacks drinking out of my water fountain, no blacks useing my restroom, no blacks riding in the front of the bus, no blacks going to school with my children........yup, those Mormons are real racists....pathetic.

79 posted on 04/23/2012 7:48:27 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but well informed)
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To: terycarl
The bible teaches us to love all mankind but as I recall, that's not exactly how the mostly protestant south U.S. interpreted it.

Unlike the BoM which is quite explicit in it's treatment of BLACKS.

It is an albatross around the neck of MORMONism that will NEVER go away.

80 posted on 04/24/2012 2:12:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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