Posted on 03/26/2012 1:38:33 PM PDT by NYer
We are concerned for the souls of all sinners.
What made you think I wasn’t concerned? Or that Catholics aren’t concerned?
It’s just that these sacred vessels are being wrongly used. Those people are sinning and will have to answer for it someday.
Did I close the circle now?
If you click on the Religion Moderator’s name you will find the rules about mind-reading. That’s what I was referring to when you used the word “you” repeatedly.
How can you know what I think?
I don’t follow the Jubilee because I am not Jewish. However, that does not change the fact that God is the same yesterday, today and forever. And again, you are not an Old Testament believer, so find something else to make an argument out of.
Have to get nasty, don’t you? But your iconoclasm puts you in the same camp as the Muslims.
What a garbled view of the Catholic understanding of the Eucharist! In any case. the show is disrepect is what is being complained about here, Suppose they had rolls of toilet paper with the words of scripture, or pictures of Jesus painted the toilet bowls? The same thing.
Huh? You are the one attacking me for saying I think the New Testament takes precedent over the old. Not sure why you won’t follow Jubilee—it’s in the old testament, isn’t it?
What changed from the old to the new to make that part of the Old Testament void?
Also while we are at it, I’d really like to know why the 2nd commandment was deleted. I honestly don’t know the answer to that.
How is suggesting that if we worship around a fake ark nasty? I think that’s a fact based on the Bible. And based on the 2nd commandment against idolatry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUbKe1lSWyc
Ok, I don’t see this getting a bunch of attention. They are idiots. Why give them the attention?
You wrote:
“Vessels cannot be sacred; they are mere implements.”
Exodus 28:2
Exodus 28:4
Exodus 28:38
Exodus 29:6
Exodus 29:29
Exodus 29:31
Exodus 29:33
Exodus 29:31
Leviticus 23:7
Joshua 6:19
1 Kings 1:39
1 Kings 8:4
1 Chronicles 22:19
2 Chronicles 35:3
“Put the sacred ark in the temple that Solomon son of David king of Israel built.”
There’s another sacred vessel!!! And that’s not the only one either.
Psalm 15:1
A psalm of David. LORD, who may dwell in your sacred tent? Who may live on your holy mountain?
Isaiah 64:10
Your sacred cities have become a wasteland; even Zion is a wasteland, Jerusalem a desolation.
Ezekiel 44:19
When they go out into the outer court where the people are, they are to take off the clothes they have been ministering in and are to leave them in the sacred rooms, and put on other clothes, so that the people are not consecrated through contact with their garments.
Ezekiel 45:1
[ Israel Fully Restored ] “‘When you allot the land as an inheritance, you are to present to the LORD a portion of the land as a sacred district, 25,000 cubits long and 20,000 cubits wide; the entire area will be holy.
Zechariah 14:20-21
On that day HOLY TO THE LORD will be inscribed on the bells of the horses, and the cooking pots in the LORD’s house will be like the sacred bowls in front of the altar.21 Every pot in Jerusalem and Judah will be holy to the LORD Almighty, and all who come to sacrifice will take some of the pots and cook in them. And on that day there will no longer be a Canaanite[a] in the house of the LORD Almighty.
Matthew 23:17
You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
Matthew 23:19
You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
I think you need to start reading the HOLY Bible.
A “fake ark,” What are you talking about?
A “fake ark,” What are you talking about?
I gave you a link to them on e-bay. You can google “monstrance for sale” and get links to various places. Most decent sized towns have religion supply stores (at yellowpages.com “religious goods” is even an auto complete option you get after typing “reli”) where you can get all kinds of stuff like vestments and portable confession kits. Some might want to see some proof you’re actually a leader of the appropriate religion, especially for the more sacred stuff, but there’s always going to be somebody that doesn’t care. And remember a lot of stuff doesn’t become sacred until it’s brought to a church and had a ceremony performed, until then it’s just decoration.
The 2nd commandment.
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Stop comparing pagan catholic idolatry with YHWH’s commanded worship for Israel.
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wake up — it’s the Christian way practised since the Early Christians. So if a person wants to reject Christianity (i.e. Catholic/Orthodox/Anglican/Lutheran/Presbyterian etc.) go ahead...
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The Catholic “understanding” of the Eucharist is a total misunderstanding of a single verse in John 6.
A doctrine of devils, contorted out of misreading a verse ripped out of the rest of the chapter.
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No, it is not the Christian way!
It is a ‘way’ contrived in the 4th century by the pharisees that created the ‘catholic’ church, and all its pagan practices.
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“A doctrine of devils? Luther disagreed with you.
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