Posted on 03/16/2012 5:09:23 AM PDT by Colofornian
In all the extensive media coverage of Mitt Romney... not a word have I seen about the secrets of Mormonism, the secrets of Romney's life-long beliefs and practices...
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And why does Romney (and his church) want to keep people from knowing those secrets? Most Mormons will claim that they are not "secret," but merely..."sacred"...Mormons hold any number of other aspects...to be "sacred," and yet they don't hesitate to discuss them (for example: baptism, conferring the gift of the Holy Ghost, ordination to the priesthood, etc.)...
...I am going reveal those secrets...
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Part of the endowment ritual instructs the Mormons in the four "signs" and "tokens" of the Mormon priesthood. Each also has a "name" (or password)...The purpose of the signs and tokens, according to Mormon Prophet Brigham Young, is that they will be needed to pass the angels guarding the gates of heaven. The tokens are various handshakes, copied largely from the Masonic initiation rites of the 1830s, when church founder Joseph Smith was initiated into Freemasonry...
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So Mitt Romney, and all other righteous Mormons, can be confident that they know the secret passwords and secret handshakes to get into heaven. Do you see why Romney and his church are reluctant for "unworthy" people (the rest of us, including Mrs. Romney's parents) to know about this?...
The actions that were going to guarantee my entrance at the gates...would have nothing to do with love or charity or the other teachings of Christ...I hadn't heard a single one of those words spoken today, the most primary day of religious instruction in my entire life. No, I was going to burst into heaven on the basis of mumbo-jumbo...Did all the white-suited glorifiers in the room unquestioningly accept a ritual of nutty gestures from the pseudo-occult as a sacrament?...
(Excerpt) Read more at voices.yahoo.com ...
We may have a duck on our hands...
Then our prayers are with you; for it seems that Lutherans have their own internal battles going on.
GMTA
As well as viceversa.
Not just the polygamists. Prescription drug abuse is rampant in Utah and Utah has the highest per capita people on anti-depressants.
There really is a huge pressure to perform - to have the ‘perfect’ house, the ‘perfect’ marriage, the ‘perfect’ kids, the ‘perfect’ church callings, the ‘perfect’ LDS testimony. It is unreal and very few women feel they can take off their masks and share their problems, because they have to show all their friends (who are usually LDS and in the same congregation) how perfectly they are living Mormonism and how happy they are.
Mormonism teaches that moral perfection is possible in this life (since Jesus proved it because He did it) and ‘living the (LDS) gospel’ will bring happiness, the perfect life and even financial wealth (which is where real stressor is for men).
Plain and simple, it is a demonic cult!
A muslim? Never
An Atheist? Depends on the atheist.
Chances are you voted for an atheist without knowing
Chances are you voted for an atheist without knowing
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Perhaps, but not one who was open about it. That I would never do. Worldview matters.
And Mormonism is a HELL of a lot closer to Islam than Christianity and sides in with Islam over Christianity quite often. I can document that.
I checked the site again. NOT WELS. (Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod)
Are you always this inaccurate in your claims?
There are Jewish atheists...lots of em...they fill zer0’s re-election team. They still claim to be Jewish none the less.
I know there are Christian atheists. I personally know some. They consider themselves Christian culturally but that is where it ends
Romney’s grandfather expatriating to Mexico to avoid the Feds and continue his polygamous marriages. SECRET.
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That was great granddad and his many wives..
He was just carrying on the family tradition of 12 wives that his own father had lived back in Utah....
Granddad was just a boy when he fled with his father, mother, the sister wives and his siblings and half siblings to Mexico so that Dad (the great granddad) wouldnt be arrested and put in a US prison for breaking the morality laws..
Bigamy was a crime in the 19th century...
amd God calls it adultery...
Granddad grew up in Mexico with his siblings and half siblings and more besides born in Mexico..
Willard has a lot of cousins who still live there...
Granddad got married in Mexico and had some children, one of them George, the father of Willard Mitt Romney..all o9f them born in Mexico...
The romney never intended to ever return to the US with its decency laws...
However in 1912 there was a revolution in Mexico so the wet back Romneys came into the US illegally..
Suddenly the United States wasnt so bad after asll..
Plus, Vaquero, in one of your now-deleted posts, you indicated we rec'd your permission to focus on both Islam and Scientology.
As Reaganaut said, Mormonism is pretty close to Islam in a lot of ways...and, btw, so is Scientology.
For the Scientology link, see:
Similarities between Mormonism and Scientology
* Origins
o Based on entirely unevidenced stories
o Doctrines created and evolved over time, sometimes changing
* Founders
o Known for their extreme desire for wealth
o Known for telling stories and lies
o Convicted and imprisoned for illegal activities
o Died during their trouble with the law
* Legal troubles
o Involved in many illegal activities, in many cases as part of official organization doctrine and practices
o Support destruction of outsiders, especially apostates (blood atonement, shunning, "fair game")
o Legal troubles led to changes in doctrine (at least on the surface, note polygamy and "fair game")
* Teachings
o Pre- and post-mortal existence
o Eternal progression (godhood, clear thetan)
o Only way to know truth is to experience it yourself
o Christianity, Bible only partly true
o Focus on thriving and happiness in present life rather than the afterlife or eternal life
o "Salvation" by works
o Give "milk" instead of "meat"
o Official endorsement of lying about or avoiding discussion of controversial doctrines, especially origin of man and key figures (Heavenly Father, Xenu, spirit children, thetans, etc)
o Levels can be achieved (Operating Thetan levels, temple Mormons, eternal progression, different kingdoms)
o Resistance is dismissed as proof/evidence of validity
* Behavior
o Persecution complex
o Label and treat opposition as evil enemies ("Antis", "Suppressive Persons")
Other Similarities:
1. Pre-existence of humanity:
LDS: All humans pre-existed in the spirit world before being born on earth.
Scientology: People were thetans in past lives + belief in reincarnation.
2. Unlimited potential for humans:
LDS: Heavenly Father (God) is an exalted man and LDS men may become gods with omnipotence and omniscience.
Scientology: People may become thetans again, regaining their freedom from matter, energy, space, and time (MEST).
3. “Salvation” only through their Church:
LDS: Exaltation and godhood only through the LDS Church.
Scientology: Recovering one’s thetanhood only possible through Church of Scientology.
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Similarities between Mormonism and Scientology
L. Ron Hubbard could have easily substituted Kolob for Venus in his religion.
According to Scientology, when a person dies — or, in Scientology terms, when a thetan abandons its physical body — they go to a "landing station" on the planet Venus, where the thetan is re-implanted and told lies about its past life and its next life. The Venusians take the thetan, "capsule" it, and send it back to Earth to be dumped into the ocean off the coast of California. Source: Thetan (Wikipedia)
Seems to me that, per the Mormon myth narrative, when when an earthling is becoming "encapsuled" they leave from a "launching station" on the planet Kolob, where the Mormon spirit is implanted inside a human body, and once born with a Mormon family, the Mormon is told lies about its past life and its next life. The Mormon gods take the Mormon, "capsule" it in that body, and send it to Earth to be dumped at age 8 into the Mormon baptismal founts off of many international coasts. LDS (Mormonism) and Scientology: A Brief Theological Comparison Under one of the differences, I actually see more of a connection...#6 mentions Mormonism's "exaltation to godhood"...Scientologists a "return to Thetanhood" as its "final goal."
If there is a resemblance between the two founders, presumably it is because Hubbard looked at Joseph Smith and the LDS and decided it would provide him with a very useful model for a successful religion. He gave it an SF twist, because that was what he was good at, and it probably amused him.
they say polygamy is so beneficial for the soul because it challenges you to be your best person, to rise above your jealousy
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A sharp knife works even better...
Those 2 guys are getting kinky...
I know there are Christian atheists. I personally know some. They consider themselves Christian culturally but that is where it ends
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There is no such thing. They may think there is, but there isn’t.
Someone who claims to be a Christian (cultural or otherwise) yet doesn’t believe in Christ as Lord and Savior isn’t a Christian.
If they think otherwise, then they are idiots.
And you dodged the part about the LDS and islam...
Someone deleted one of my posts.
That’s it. I’m Outta here.
Yes...I drive a dodge
And I am sick of all this holier than though crud
Believe what you want and hate those who dont. I dont care
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Something like that.
BTW, why should I be bothered to be factually right? Romney ain’t right and Paul ain’t right in the head.
And here is the obligatory /S
Hope you are having a great day. I feel real good today...for some reason.
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