[Hodar]

There are approximately 6.1 Million Mormons in the US. A majority of these are Conservatives. So, do you want ~4-5 Million voters, or do you want to alienate them? Seems like a simple decision to me.

[Psalm 144]

“There are approximately 6.1 Million Mormons in the US. A majority of these are Conservatives.”

95% of them are supporting Bishop Willard. Bishop Willard governed to the left of Bill Clinton. Bishop Willard and those who would support him are not conservatives.

[svcw]

Ok, if they are as conservative as you say why do they vote in lock step (94-98%) for Romney and over whelming for Reid.
They are already voting for Romney, so what difference does it make, what an unknown guy says or doesn’t say.
lds are not as conservative as they appear to be, they do have a successful PR machine however.

[T Minus Four]

There are approximately 6.1 Million Mormons in the US. A majority of these are Conservatives. So, do you want ~4-5 Million voters, or do you want to alienate them? Seems like a simple decision to me.

Really? How far would you go? Where's the line? Refraining from exercising your freedom of speech and religion? "Softening" your stance? Pandering? Lying?

[reaganaut]

We want them to come to Christ and leave Mormonism.

Also, I would say about half, not the vast majority are conservatives, based upon those I know and have known over my life.

Also, the vast majority (based on exit polling) are voting for Mitt, how conservative is that??

[Elsie]

Yeah...

It’s SIMPLE, alright.

[Elsie]

A majority of these are Conservatives. So, do you want ~4-5 Million voters, or do you want to alienate them?

What they gonna do; vote DEMOCRAT??

I think not!

They are 'alienated' now and just THRIVE on it!

[greyfoxx39]

There are approximately 6.1 Million Mormons in the US.

WIKI is taking the figures provided by the mormon church without the caveat that once baptized as mormon, members are carried on the rolls until the age of 110..unless there is proof of death. Since there are at least a couple of million of these baptized who haven't set foot in a mormon church for years, that number is highly inflated.

A majority of these are Conservatives. So, do you want ~4-5 Million voters, or do you want to alienate them?

See the membership statistics below from Cumorah.com and keep in mind that mormon children are baptized as members at the age of eight. If the remainder of these "conservative" mormons would vote for Obama because of the truth of their sect becoming known, they certainly are NOT conservative in any way.

Religion in United States

General Religious Data

Percentage attending religious services weekly: 44%

Estimated weekly average attending religious services (all faiths): 132000000

Major Religious Groups

#	Faith	Congregations	Active Members	Adherents	Percent	Annual Growth
1	Protestant	0	0	168000000	56.00%	0.91%
2	Catholic	0	0	84000000	28.00%	0.91%
3	Jewish	0	0	6000000	2.00%	0.91%
4	other	0	0	12000000	4.00%	0.91%
5	none	0	0	30000000	10.00%	0.91%
6	Jehovah's Witnesses	11426	988469	2153268	0.72%	0.91%
7	Seventh-day Adventists	4422	861954	1723908	0.57%	3.00%
8	Latter-day Saints	12753	2276268	5690672	1.897%	1.69%

Country religious adherents data courtesy of the World Factbook.LDS membership and unit data are derived from the LDS Church Almanac. Seventh-day Adventist statistics are from the Adventist yearbook statistical reports. Jehovah's Witness data are from the Jehovah's Witness yearly statistical report. Other data are from a variety of sources available upon request.

Extrinsic Religious Challenges and Opportunities: National and Cultural

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in United States

Official LDS Statistics LDS Members: 5690672 Missions: 106 Temples: 62 Stakes: 1390 Districts: 13 Wards: 10778 Branches: 1975 Total Congregations: 12753

Derived LDS Statistics Approx. Active Members: 2276268 Percentage of Members Attending Church Weekly: 40% Average members per congregation: 446 Average active members per congregation: 178 LDS, as percent of population: 1.8968% Active LDS, as percent of population: 0.7587% LDS, as percentage of churchgoers: 1.724% National population per LDS congregation: 23523

Annual LDS Membership Growth

#	Year	Members	Annual Growth Rate	Wards	Branches	Units	Unit Growth Rate	Proportionality Ratio
1	1976	2336715	0%	0	0	0	0%	0
2	1978	2486261	3.1%	0	0	0	0%	0
3	1980	2693765	4.01%	0	0	0	0%	0
4	1982	2882145	3.38%	0	0	0	0%	0
5	1984	3049965	2.83%	0	0	0	0%	0
6	1986	3863598	11.77%	0	0	0	0%	0
7	1988	4100000	2.97%	0	1226	1226	0%	0
8	1990	4175000	0.91%	7456	1286	8742	75.4%	82.857
9	1992	4336000	1.89%	8056	1405	9461	3.94%	2.084
10	1994	4520000	2.08%	8433	1580	10013	2.83%	1.36
11	1996	4712000	2.08%	8719	1698	10417	1.97%	0.947
12	1998	4923000	2.19%	9189	1622	10811	1.85%	0.844
13	2000	5113409	1.9%	9627	1688	11315	2.27%	1.194
14	2002	5310598	1.89%	9999	1732	11731	1.8%	0.952
15	2004	5503192	1.78%	10357	1755	12112	1.59%	0.893
16	2006	5690672	1.67%	10778	1975	12753	2.57%	1.538

LDS membership and unit data 1976-2000 from Mark Davies' WW-LDS.

Proportionality Ratio is the ratio of the increase in units to the increase in membership. A ratio of 1 means that membership and church units are growing at the same rate.

National Population and LDS Growth Rates

Current LDS Membership Growth Rate: 1.67%

Current LDS Unit Growth Rate: 2.57%

Annual Population Growth Rate: 0.91%

Relative LDS Population Growth Rate (LDS membership growth rate minus population growth rate): 0.75%

Intrinsic Challenges and Opportunities of the Church of Jesus Christ

Convert Retention and Member Activity

While LDS activity rates in the United States are among the highest of any country in the world, less than half of members on the rolls are active. The Encyclopedia of Mormonism reports: 'Canada, the South Pacific, and the United States average between 40 percent and 50 percent [attendance at sacrament meeting].' (Source: Encyclopedia of Mormonism, edited by Daniel H. Ludlow, 1992, 4:1527.)

Marginal retention of new converts, and especially potential priesthood holders, remains a serious challenge:

'For the U.S. as a whole, only 59% of baptized males ever receive the Melchizedek Priesthood. In the South Pacific, the figure drops to 35%; in Great Britain, 29%. In Mexico (with almost 850,000 members) the figure is 19%; and in Japan, only 17% of the male members ever make it past the Aaronic Priesthood.' (source: Lowell C. Bennion and Lawrence Young, Dialogue, Spring 1996, p.19.)

[fishtank]

“A majority of these are Conservatives.”

Name _ONE_ nationally known conservative Mormon politician.

[Colofornian]

There are approximately 6.1 Million Mormons in the US. A majority of these are Conservatives. So, do you want ~4-5 Million voters, or do you want to alienate them? Seems like a simple decision to me.

Ah, the great myth promoted by Hodar that only Christians are supposed to withstand the "alienating" vocab of religious convos 'tween Mormonism & Christianity.

Somehow Mormons -- for 180 years -- can publish MILLIONS & MILLIONS of worldwide "scriptures," curricula, articles, multi-media, online presentations, missionary door-to-door presentations...and label EVERY Christian as a "corrupt," heart-wandering "apostate" filled with 100% abominable creeds as part of the devil's church...yet if ONE Florida pastor holds ONE press conference to send a single volley across the net...suddenly Hodar's "alienation calvary" rides to the rescue!!!!

So, 'BREAKING NEWS' 4U Hodar...READ CAREFULLY:

#1 There's already been a 180-year schism 'tween Mormonism & Christianity...and guess, what? The Mormon church started it!

The fact is, Hodar, that Joseph Smith's first vision already attempted to squeeze our neck veins into breathing silence. He dug a gigantic graveyard for the worldwide Christian church, declared our...
...joinability null & void,
...ALL our creeds as an "abomination" to his god,
...and the heritage of our professing believers as 100% corrupt [see Joseph Smith History, vv. 18-19 of Pearl of Great Price]
The real question, then, Hodar is: "Do you & Freepers of like mind agree with these three Smithian assessments of Christians & the Christian church?"...

The reality is that a LOT of FREEPER threads focus on the already-existing wall between Romney and voter bases...this includes that 180-year schism begun by Romney's Mormon church (no FREEPER or Florida pastor created that; it already exists).

So, if this is a "wall of 'alienation'" you're referencing, about some great potentiality of "splitting up" a Mormon-Christian "marriage," well, ya just have flunked @ history.

#2 If Christians are not overly strained by Mormonism's slander of Christians, Mormons can grow thicker skin:

(a) To repeat: I know what the avg. Mormon believes about me. I know they don’t tolerate ANY of my creeds (their ‘good book’ & their leaders tell 'em those are automatically 100% abominable!)

I know many don't seem to perceive Christ’s righteousness in me (their ‘good book’ tells them I’m automatically ‘corrupt’).

I know they don’t respect our faithfulness to Christ and His church (their leaders & ‘good book’ tell them we’re all "apostates")

BUT, BUT...despite knowing all these walls Mormons have had in place for 180 years…does it keep me from linking up with a Mormon to oppose abortion, homosexual agenda, nationalized healthcare, higher taxes, working with youth as Boy Scout troop leaders, etc. etc ??? (No!)

So, if your "alienation" comment covers this so-called "separation" -- how is it that I and other Christians are able to work around Mormon-built walls, but somehow you think it's too "divisive" for Mormons to do the same in reverse?

I already know our beliefs are different. But somehow the wall-high belief system Mormons have about Christians is something we can stomach as we work with grassroots Mormons to some agree – but somehow they can’t do the same in reverse? Why not, Hodar?

(b) Lopsided, one-sided appeal to 'political unity': What I don't understand, is that apparently on matters that mean much to you or to Mormons – the putting forth of "my cause, my agenda" – the appeal will be made to "unity" so that we can ride on a common surfboard cuttin’ thru rough waters.’

Yet, when it comes to discussing biblical matters that mean much to us–-
--for example, the Great Commission in life, our mission, truth-telling...
...these things are all supposed to be submerged -- and only by Christians? (Not by Mormons?) (Why can't you at least try to hold them in balance and give them at least equal weight?)

Bottom line: If I can get along with Mormons who reference me as an
..."apostate" "corrupt" believer
...who belongs to the "church of the devil" -- a false and dead church --
...who supposedly believes in "abominable" creeds --
...then I don't think I can come up with as much to match just that one press conference re: this Florida pastor's accurate description of Mormonism.

Therefore, to some degree on pushing common socio-political objectives, things should be relatively hunky-dory.