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To: Hodar; T Minus Four; greyfoxx39; All
There are approximately 6.1 Million Mormons in the US. A majority of these are Conservatives. So, do you want ~4-5 Million voters, or do you want to alienate them? Seems like a simple decision to me.

Ah, the great myth promoted by Hodar that only Christians are supposed to withstand the "alienating" vocab of religious convos 'tween Mormonism & Christianity.

Somehow Mormons -- for 180 years -- can publish MILLIONS & MILLIONS of worldwide "scriptures," curricula, articles, multi-media, online presentations, missionary door-to-door presentations...and label EVERY Christian as a "corrupt," heart-wandering "apostate" filled with 100% abominable creeds as part of the devil's church...yet if ONE Florida pastor holds ONE press conference to send a single volley across the net...suddenly Hodar's "alienation calvary" rides to the rescue!!!!

So, 'BREAKING NEWS' 4U Hodar...READ CAREFULLY:

#1 There's already been a 180-year schism 'tween Mormonism & Christianity...and guess, what? The Mormon church started it!

The fact is, Hodar, that Joseph Smith's first vision already attempted to squeeze our neck veins into breathing silence. He dug a gigantic graveyard for the worldwide Christian church, declared our...
...joinability null & void,
...ALL our creeds as an "abomination" to his god,
...and the heritage of our professing believers as 100% corrupt [see Joseph Smith History, vv. 18-19 of Pearl of Great Price]
The real question, then, Hodar is: "Do you & Freepers of like mind agree with these three Smithian assessments of Christians & the Christian church?"...

The reality is that a LOT of FREEPER threads focus on the already-existing wall between Romney and voter bases...this includes that 180-year schism begun by Romney's Mormon church (no FREEPER or Florida pastor created that; it already exists).

So, if this is a "wall of 'alienation'" you're referencing, about some great potentiality of "splitting up" a Mormon-Christian "marriage," well, ya just have flunked @ history.

#2 If Christians are not overly strained by Mormonism's slander of Christians, Mormons can grow thicker skin:

(a) To repeat: I know what the avg. Mormon believes about me. I know they don’t tolerate ANY of my creeds (their ‘good book’ & their leaders tell 'em those are automatically 100% abominable!)

I know many don't seem to perceive Christ’s righteousness in me (their ‘good book’ tells them I’m automatically ‘corrupt’).

I know they don’t respect our faithfulness to Christ and His church (their leaders & ‘good book’ tell them we’re all "apostates")

BUT, BUT...despite knowing all these walls Mormons have had in place for 180 years…does it keep me from linking up with a Mormon to oppose abortion, homosexual agenda, nationalized healthcare, higher taxes, working with youth as Boy Scout troop leaders, etc. etc ??? (No!)

So, if your "alienation" comment covers this so-called "separation" -- how is it that I and other Christians are able to work around Mormon-built walls, but somehow you think it's too "divisive" for Mormons to do the same in reverse?

I already know our beliefs are different. But somehow the wall-high belief system Mormons have about Christians is something we can stomach as we work with grassroots Mormons to some agree – but somehow they can’t do the same in reverse? Why not, Hodar?

(b) Lopsided, one-sided appeal to 'political unity': What I don't understand, is that apparently on matters that mean much to you or to Mormons – the putting forth of "my cause, my agenda" – the appeal will be made to "unity" so that we can ride on a common surfboard cuttin’ thru rough waters.’

Yet, when it comes to discussing biblical matters that mean much to us–-
--for example, the Great Commission in life, our mission, truth-telling...
...these things are all supposed to be submerged -- and only by Christians? (Not by Mormons?) (Why can't you at least try to hold them in balance and give them at least equal weight?)

Bottom line: If I can get along with Mormons who reference me as an
..."apostate" "corrupt" believer
...who belongs to the "church of the devil" -- a false and dead church --
...who supposedly believes in "abominable" creeds --
...then I don't think I can come up with as much to match just that one press conference re: this Florida pastor's accurate description of Mormonism.

Therefore, to some degree on pushing common socio-political objectives, things should be relatively hunky-dory.

172 posted on 03/16/2012 4:59:07 PM PDT by Colofornian ( Tell us: Why do we want to vote for ONE socialist to defeat ANOTHER socialist again?)
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To: Colofornian; Hodar; T Minus Four; greyfoxx39; Jeff Head

Mormons can grow thicker skin:

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Mormons are extremely thin skinned. They perceive every question as ‘hate’ and everyone who doesn’t speak about them glowingly as ‘antis’. How many times have we been called Nazis or worse? How many leaders of ministries to the LDS have received death threats? (answer to that is almost all of them).

On top of that add the hypocrisy that they have no issue calling Christians names or making fun of them and their beliefs.

It isn’t that Christians have thicker skin, it is that we have Jesus. For us it isn’t about protecting an organization like it is for the Mormons.


173 posted on 03/16/2012 5:36:21 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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